Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 12/07/2012 20:56, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: I didn't see anything that would allow ntp to runaway. Fritz Wuehler wrote: # Sample /etc/ntp.conf: Configuration file for ntpd. server 0.asia.pool.ntp.org server 1.asia.pool.ntp.org server

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-13, Fritz Wuehler fr...@spamexpire-201207.rodent.frell.theremailer.net wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-07-12, Anonymous nore...@breaka.net wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: Hi Unruh, I'm glad you like the suggestions. You

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: - can one have multiple pool commands? For example, at the moment on one widely travelled PC I have: server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 2.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 0.nl.pool.ntp.org iburst

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg is raffling off PCI Express clocks for participation in the NTP Pool

2012-07-13 Thread DaveB
In article 11kih2bsdn96l.1sgf7xcdw4aak@40tude.net, m- a.alp...@web.de says... Hello! Is that known? http://www.meinberg.de/english/info/pc-clocks-for-ntp-pool.htm H PCI Express cards. Not much use for many then. Dave B. ___

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg is raffling off PCI Express clocks for participation in the NTP Pool

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article 11kih2bsdn96l.1sgf7xcdw4aak@40tude.net, m- a.alp...@web.de says... Hello! Is that known? http://www.meinberg.de/english/info/pc-clocks-for-ntp-pool.htm H PCI Express cards. Not much use for many then. Dave B. Why not?

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 13/07/2012 08:45, Rob wrote: David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: - can one have multiple pool commands? For example, at the moment on one widely travelled PC I have: server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 2.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg is raffling off PCI Express clocks for participation in the NTP Pool

2012-07-13 Thread DaveB
In article slrnjvvn3u.l3l.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl, nom...@example.com says... DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article 11kih2bsdn96l.1sgf7xcdw4aak@40tude.net, m- a.alp...@web.de says... Hello! Is that known? http://www.meinberg.de/english/info/pc-clocks-for-ntp-pool.htm

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg is raffling off PCI Express clocks for participation in the NTP Pool

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article slrnjvvn3u.l3l.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl, nom...@example.com says... DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article 11kih2bsdn96l.1sgf7xcdw4aak@40tude.net, m- a.alp...@web.de says... Hello! Is that known?

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: On 13/07/2012 08:45, Rob wrote: David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: - can one have multiple pool commands? For example, at the moment on one widely travelled PC I have: server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 13/07/2012 10:00, Rob wrote: [] The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. No need to use uk. or nl. anymore, that is only a leftover from the past.

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg is raffling off PCI Express clocks for participation in the NTP Pool

2012-07-13 Thread DaveB
In article slrnjvvp7u.pc3.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl, nom...@example.com says... DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article slrnjvvn3u.l3l.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl, nom...@example.com says... DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article 11kih2bsdn96l.1sgf7xcdw4aak@40tude.net, m-

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Ron Hahn
Colleagues, I am seeing these experiences since recent times on my two ntp servers: [root@saturn ~]# ntpdc -c kern localhost: timed out, nothing received ***Request timed out [root@saturn ~]# I do not have any restricts in my ntp.conf file. This is confusing me as this was working before

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: On 13/07/2012 10:00, Rob wrote: [] The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. No need to use

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg is raffling off PCI Express clocks for participation in the NTP Pool

2012-07-13 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article slrnjvvp7u.pc3.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl, nom...@example.com says... DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article slrnjvvn3u.l3l.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl, nom...@example.com says... DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk wrote: In article

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Roger
On 13 Jul 2012 09:00:43 GMT, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. I get angry when a statement is made which can easily

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
Roger invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: On 13 Jul 2012 09:00:43 GMT, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. I get angry

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Fritz Wuehler
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: driftfile /etc/ntp/drift multicastclient broadcastdelay 0.008 Why do you have these? You are getting your time from the pool, and suddenly there is the totally unknown multicast server somewhere that is also feeding in time. Try getting rid

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Fritz Wuehler
Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: a) Stop ntpd (as mentioned above) b) check the config file to make sure it's configured to use a drift file, and find the location of it Did that, and everything appeared normal. c1) set both minpoll and maxpoll to 6 (64 seconds)

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
unruh wrote: Fritz Wuehler wrote: That's all very nice but it says on the ntp.org page to use a national server if you have one. Mine happens to not be very good but that doesn't mean I shouldn't use it if it was good. No idea where it says that, but if it does it is bad advice in

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Terje Mathisen
Roger wrote: On 13 Jul 2012 09:00:43 GMT, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. I get angry when a statement is made

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-07-13, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The documentation is lacking. It does not tell that it is using a location service at all. But still it does. This has been the case since 2007. Check the archives of the timekeepers mailing list for bits and pieces if information that have

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-07-13, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I wish the pool command was described somewhere where Goggle found it more easily! Try searching google for site:doc.ntp.org pool e.g. http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adoc.ntp.org+pool Or go to http://doc.ntp.org and

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-07-13, Ron Hahn ron.h...@dhco.org wrote: I am seeing these experiences since recent times on my two ntp servers: [root@saturn ~]# ntpdc -c kern localhost: timed out, nothing received ***Request timed out [root@saturn ~]# I do not have any restricts in my ntp.conf file. This is

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 14/07/2012 04:25, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2012-07-13, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I wish the pool command was described somewhere where Goggle found it more easily! Try searching google for site:doc.ntp.org pool e.g.