Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread David Woolley
no-...@no-place.org wrote: small packets. A calibration run would consist of an initial NTP syncronization with an audio packet, followed by a period of some What you are describing here isn't, I think, the use of NTP, but the use of SNTP. You seem to be making a measurement, form the

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread Rob
no-...@no-place.org no-...@no-place.org wrote: Now I am considering an alternate means of performing this calibration using NTP. The iPhone and Android devices deliver audio to my app in small packets. A calibration run would consist of an initial NTP syncronization with an audio packet,

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Rob nom...@example.com wrote: I think the average internet connection from a device like an iPhone has so much jitter that this approach will not work reasonably well. (try to ping to an internet server and see what kind of jitter you have, it usually is terrible over UMTS, WiFi etc) iPhones

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread Rob
Ralph Aichinger ra...@pangea.at wrote: Rob nom...@example.com wrote: I think the average internet connection from a device like an iPhone has so much jitter that this approach will not work reasonably well. (try to ping to an internet server and see what kind of jitter you have, it usually is

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread Maurice Janssen
Maarten Wiltink maar...@kittensandcats.net wrote: Which is exactly why hardcoding pool.ntp.org _is_ allowable, in my opinion - and in fact indicated in such a case as this. In my opinion, it's not. Please read http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/vendors.html . -- Maurice

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread Maarten Wiltink
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote in message news:tiLMs.55319$on7.49...@newsfe16.iad... On 2013-01-26, no-...@no-place.org no-...@no-place.org wrote: [...] I obviously don't want to hard-code for a specific time server because things could change after the user gets my app and it is unfair to send

Re: [ntp:questions] p351 fails to build on MSVC++2008EE

2013-01-26 Thread Mischanko, Edward T
Steve, I see from the web page that Autogen is maintained by Bruce Korb. Bruce is well aware of the current issues in building NTP with MSVC++2008/2010EE, so patients is the key word here I guess. Thanks for the information. Regards, Ed On 2013-01-25, Mischanko, Edward T

Re: [ntp:questions] Updating the leapseconds file -- how to signal ntpd

2013-01-26 Thread Mischanko, Edward T
I know of no way for NTP to know about the new file without restarting NTP itself. The drift file will allow it to come back into sync very quickly, so the consequences of a restart should be minimal. NTP reads the leapseconds file on start-up, I believe. Regards, Ed I'm using my

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread Joseph Gwinn
In article 51033f49.215309...@news.eternal-september.org, no-...@no-place.org wrote: I am an app developer who has a precision audio frequency app for iPhone and Android devices. For my app the nominal crystal oscillator accuracy in these devices is not sufficient. Up until now I have been

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread unruh
On 2013-01-26, David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: no-...@no-place.org wrote: small packets. A calibration run would consist of an initial NTP syncronization with an audio packet, followed by a period of some What you are describing here isn't, I think, the use of NTP, but

[ntp:questions] When is the kernel-mode time-stamping used under Windows? Must one add the type 22 driver line?

2013-01-26 Thread David Taylor
Folks, I've tried to follow this in the code, but it's beyond me, I'm afraid! Given: 1 - the modified serialpps.sys device driver is installed 2 - the support DLL is present 3 - the environment variable points to the support DLL is it necessary to add the ATOM driver to the ntp.conf file?

Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

2013-01-26 Thread David Woolley
unruh wrote: On 2013-01-26, David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: You may well find that you don't have to measure the sound generator frequency because it may use the same crystal as the main clock. Unfortunately ntpd does NOT change the crystal. It changes the way that

Re: [ntp:questions] Updating the leapseconds file -- how to signal ntpd

2013-01-26 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article n7sdnfngn4pywp7mnz2dnuvz_smdn...@megapath.net, Hal Murray hal-use...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net wrote: I suggest submitting a feature request at https://support.ntp.org/bugs/index.cgi with a link back to the above bug since it will be the same area of code. Too many hoops to

Re: [ntp:questions] Updating the leapseconds file -- how to signal ntpd

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Tatarinov
2013/1/27, Garrett Wollman woll...@bimajority.org: In article CABrG=ZyT9ttE4Mea3yauWPru0euQ8TV4m7KHm0bHSwiYa=+b...@mail.gmail.com, Michael Tatarinov kuk...@gmail.com wrote: I know only one way. ntpq -c 'config: leapfile LEAPFILE That was what I was looking for! In my version of ntpq, at