Re: [ntp:questions] bitsy.mit.edu retired?

2008-08-15 Thread Peter Laws
-theater-homeland-security laws you'll run afoul of if you scan strangers? Sad, really, and much less useful than it use to be. -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL PROT

Re: [ntp:questions] Windows built-in SNTP/NTP clients

2008-08-14 Thread Peter Laws
erything I maintain (which is few, thankfully!) ... but this is a W2k3 server maintained by another group (a MS-centric group) and I'd rather educate them gently instead of just saying "here's a nickel kid, go buy yourself a *real* time server" ... Even if I think that

Re: [ntp:questions] Root server list

2008-08-14 Thread Peter Laws
Peter Laws wrote: Scott Baker wrote: Peter Laws wrote: Scott Baker wrote: So I should be updating my root.hints file periodically? I never thought about it, the root servers are so permanent. NTP, BIND, whatever ... -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations

Re: [ntp:questions] Root server list

2008-08-13 Thread Peter Laws
Scott Baker wrote: Peter Laws wrote: Scott Baker wrote: So I should be updating my root.hints file periodically? I never thought about it, the root servers are so permanent. They're not permanent (not so long ago, they all had different names instead of root-servers.net) so yes, y

[ntp:questions] Windows built-in SNTP/NTP clients

2008-08-11 Thread Peter Laws
Can someone post a list or point me to one, that shows which versions of MS-Windows have decent NTP clients? I know that NT/2K/XP does not but what about W2k3, '2k8, etc? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Techn

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Laws
Peter Laws wrote: All are running RHEL 4 or 5 and are reasonably current on patches. None use anything but the NTP version distributed with RHEL. Looks like my brand new, not-yet-in-service DNS/DHCP appliances recorded the leap second as well, so that effectively eliminates RHEL, since

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Laws
clock units themselves? One of the TymServes has the last firmware available, while the other doesn't. The other is, as mentioned, unknown. -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL PROT

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-01 Thread Peter Laws
themselves peered together For a short summary how leap seconds could/should be handled, see: http://www.meinberg.de/english/info/leap-second.htm Thanks, Martin. -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL

[ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-01 Thread Peter Laws
ode? A problem with NTP itself? Operator error? :-) -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Feedback? Contact my director

Re: [ntp:questions] OT: Solaris help - TOD service

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Laws
Peter Laws wrote: As noted, a bunch of the old "really cool in 1983" protocols like echo (port 7), discard (8), daytime (13), or the coolest of them all in 1983, chargen (19). Got interrupted and missed a fragment: As noted, a bunch of the old "really cool in 1983"

Re: [ntp:questions] OT: Solaris help - TOD service

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Laws
ured ... but you've got to ask yourself "Why aren't they using NTP?" -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: [ntp:questions] question about DST

2008-05-30 Thread Peter Laws
for you to apply that will let your OS display the correct local time which is an offset from UTC. -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [ntp:questions] Optimal config

2008-05-07 Thread Peter Laws
OK, so aside from not worrying about iburst ? Peter Laws wrote: Hello, time nerds. :-) Here's what I want: accurate time to at least a few ms of UTC. Don't think I have users that need better than that. I'd like the time to be continuous and not jump around, of course

[ntp:questions] Optimal config

2008-05-05 Thread Peter Laws
first 4 I described above as their "server" entries and I see similar "synchronized" messages. What can or should I do to make this more robust? Would a "prefer" statement help? Should I use more or fewer peers? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center

[ntp:questions] Antenna for TymServe?

2008-03-20 Thread Peter Laws
been very responsive to queries. Anyone have a dealer they can recommend? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Feedback?

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP server + ntpd 4.2.4 client

2008-03-19 Thread Peter Laws
states, "The NTP and SNTP That makes more sense. That's what we get for believing the marketers ... :-) PoE clock box, eh? H. Not a bad idea ... -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP server + ntpd 4.2.4 client

2008-03-18 Thread Peter Laws
? Phones over twisted pair? No APs? Cool! :-) The thing that strikes me as odd about this device is that it *doesn't* support NTP. If you are building a time appliance, why would you scrimp on the code and deny your customers NTP? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Ne

Re: [ntp:questions] Not-So-Newbie question

2008-03-10 Thread Peter Laws
Martin Burnicki wrote: Peter, Peter Laws wrote: [...] Yesterday, I added another Stratum 2 to the group and for some reason, it seems to be taking a long time to get stabilized. Part of the problem, I think, is that it's running off a Knoppix CD (it's an NPAD test system). I Ma

[ntp:questions] Not-So-Newbie question

2008-02-22 Thread Peter Laws
same HW type didn't take this long. My real question is this: What am I really looking at in the offset and jitter columns? What makes a "good server" in terms of ntpq -p output? Low offset? Low jitter? Some combination? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Net

Re: [ntp:questions] Geographical diversity of Stratum 1 servers

2008-02-19 Thread Peter Laws
t as we'll be moving the appliances to an administrative network at some point. Could do multicast from the Stratum 2 systems, though. -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [

Re: [ntp:questions] Geographical diversity of Stratum 1 servers

2008-02-19 Thread Peter Laws
Peter Laws wrote: Looking for a reference on geographical diversity of Stratum 1 servers (GPS appliances, in this case). We have two clocks now (an old Datum TymServ with a Symetricom sticker) and another unknown brand. We'd like to add a third at a completely different facility a mile or

[ntp:questions] Geographical diversity of Stratum 1 servers

2008-02-12 Thread Peter Laws
What, other than the business continuity angle can I use? I'm assuming it would be better to have the clocks separated from a GPS perspective, too. Cites? Thanks!! -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology [EMAIL