Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
David Woolley wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > >> >> Precision is the smallest possible difference between two successive >> readings of the clock. It has nothing to do with accuracy. Precision > > The only reason it is reported is that it does affect accuracy. It is > one of the compon

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread David Woolley
Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > Precision is the smallest possible difference between two successive > readings of the clock. It has nothing to do with accuracy. Precision The only reason it is reported is that it does affect accuracy. It is one of the components that go to make root dispers

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Towli wrote: > > "David Woolley" skrev i > meddelelsen news:4a0b04b5$0$516$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... >> Towli wrote: >>> >>> "David Woolley" skrev i >>> meddelelsen news:4a0ab078$0$513$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... >> >> #sh ntp ass de What command are you running? >>> >

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Hans Jørgen Jakobsen
On Wed, 13 May 2009 20:04:14 +0200, Towli wrote: > > > Im using Cisco 3750 switches synching with a DFC77 appliance box and > external (InetProviders) Stratum 1 servers. > > If i erase the ntp clock-period from my switches when they are in synch with > my appliance box - would the precision impro

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Towli
"David Woolley" skrev i meddelelsen news:4a0b1dab$0$518$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... > Towli wrote: > >> >> I am really trying to understand this, and i feel a little >> stupid, -perhaps i dont get it because english is not my native language: >> Why is my 3750 switch reporting a precison of 2

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread David Woolley
Towli wrote: > > I am really trying to understand this, and i feel a little stupid, > -perhaps i dont get it because english is not my native language: > Why is my 3750 switch reporting a precison of 2**-6 when using my > appliance DCF77 box, but reporting precison of 2**-18 when talking about

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2009-05-13, David Woolley wrote: > Towli wrote: >> >> "David Woolley" skrev i >> meddelelsen news:4a0ab078$0$513$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... > >>> > #sh ntp ass de >>> >>> What command are you running? >> >> Show ntp association detail - sry > > What OS are you using; that command is

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Towli
"David Woolley" skrev i meddelelsen news:4a0b04b5$0$516$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... > Towli wrote: >> >> "David Woolley" skrev i >> meddelelsen news:4a0ab078$0$513$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... > >>> > #sh ntp ass de >>> >>> What command are you running? >> >> Show ntp association detail

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread David Woolley
Towli wrote: > > "David Woolley" skrev i > meddelelsen news:4a0ab078$0$513$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... >> #sh ntp ass de >> >> What command are you running? > > Show ntp association detail - sry What OS are you using; that command is not part of the standard ntpd distribution. _

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Towli
"David Woolley" skrev i meddelelsen news:4a0ab078$0$513$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk... > Towli wrote: > >> Therefore my core switches choose to trust the to more agreeing servers >> as opposed to my internal server, which is quite alone in its view on the >> time and whose time differs from the

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread David Woolley
Towli wrote: > Therefore my core switches choose to trust the to more agreeing servers > as opposed to my internal server, which is quite alone in its view on > the time and whose time differs from the 2, due to the closer proximity > /smaller delay. In principle that can happen, however I thi

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-13 Thread Towli
"Dave Hart" skrev i meddelelsen news:eee8cec8-5004-49b3-b708-16c6dc1c5...@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On May 12, 8:41 pm, "Towli" wrote: > I think i may have the answer to my own question above... > I read somewhere that a man with 2 watches never know what time it is... > > My switches sees

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-12 Thread Dave Hart
On May 12, 8:41 pm, "Towli" wrote: > I think i may have the answer to my own question above... > I read somewhere that a man with 2 watches never know what time it is... > > My switches sees the 2 external NTP-stratum1-servers as being closer to each > other in time (due to their physical placemen

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-12 Thread Towli
> > Precision is normally expressed as a *negative* power of two! Assuming > that somebody dropped the minus signs somewhere, 2**-18 is better than > 2**-8. Precision is the smallest possible difference between two > successive readings of the clock. Thanks Richard! /T ___

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-12 Thread Towli
I think i may have the answer to my own question above... I read somewhere that a man with 2 watches never know what time it is... My switches sees the 2 external NTP-stratum1-servers as being closer to each other in time (due to their physical placement close to each other and relative to my co

Re: [ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-12 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Towli wrote: > Hi all > > I found out that our Inet-Provider has stratum 1 servers available, and > i intended to use these together with our newly acquired DCF77 machinery. > I configured our DFC77 and the 2 external stratum 1 servers on our 2 > core switches to deliver Ntp to the rest of the n

[ntp:questions] Help appreciated

2009-05-12 Thread Towli
Hi all I found out that our Inet-Provider has stratum 1 servers available, and i intended to use these together with our newly acquired DCF77 machinery. I configured our DFC77 and the 2 external stratum 1 servers on our 2 core switches to deliver Ntp to the rest of the network... Unfortunately (