Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-04, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: > unruh wrote:> IF you know you fixed that bug in the new version, >> then by allmeans tell the complainant to reinstall. >> But if you do not know that that bug is fixed, >> then this is a copout. > > At this poi

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

unruh wrote:> IF you know you fixed that bug in the new version, > then by allmeans tell the complainant to reinstall. > But if you do not know that that bug is fixed, > then this is a copout. At this point, lacking necessary information, we didn't even know if there is a bug; so we can hardly

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-03, David Lord wrote: > Magnus Danielson wrote: >> On 09/02/2013 02:33 PM, David Lord wrote: >>> Harlan Stenn wrote: David Lord writes: > Magnus Danielson wrote: >> server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 >> server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 >> server ntp3.kth.se ibur

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Magnus Danielson wrote: On 09/02/2013 02:33 PM, David Lord wrote: Harlan Stenn wrote: David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se ibu

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-03, Magnus Danielson wrote: > On 09/02/2013 02:33 PM, David Lord wrote: >> Harlan Stenn wrote: >>> David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: > server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 > server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 > server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 > server n

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 09/02/2013 03:49 AM, unruh wrote: > On 2013-09-01, Magnus Danielson wrote: >> server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 >> server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 >> server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 >> server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 >> server ntp2.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 >> >> # Access control conf

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 09/02/2013 02:33 PM, David Lord wrote: > Harlan Stenn wrote: >> David Lord writes: >>> Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Hi, On 09/02/2013 12:39 AM, Harlan Stenn wrote: > unruh writes: >> In this case ntpd wandered off by hours with no complaint. That is not a >> proper behaviour of a professional piece of software. > And I don't remember the config file. If the target platform has a > config file with setting that

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Harlan Stenn wrote: David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 that seems too restrictive and possibly abusive if yo

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

David Lord writes: > Magnus Danielson wrote: > > > > server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 > > server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 > > server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 > > server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 > > server ntp2.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 > > that seems too restrictive and possibly abusiv

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-01, Magnus Danielson wrote: > On 09/01/2013 10:42 PM, unruh wrote: >> On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke wrote: >>> On 2013-09-01, Rob wrote: >>> >>> The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright >>> holder (The University of Delaware) makes no representations >>> about

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-01, Harlan Stenn wrote: > unruh writes: >> In this case ntpd wandered off by hours with no complaint. That is not a >> proper behaviour of a professional piece of software. > > And I don't remember the config file. If the target platform has a > config file with setting that change the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Magnus Danielson wrote: On 09/01/2013 10:42 PM, unruh wrote: On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-01, Rob wrote: The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright holder (The University of Delaware) makes no representations about the suitability this software for an

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

unruh writes: > In this case ntpd wandered off by hours with no complaint. That is not a > proper behaviour of a professional piece of software. And I don't remember the config file. If the target platform has a config file with setting that change the performance so the described behavior is pos

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 09/01/2013 10:42 PM, unruh wrote: > On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke wrote: >> On 2013-09-01, Rob wrote: >> >> The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright >> holder (The University of Delaware) makes no representations >> about the suitability this software for any purpose. I

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke wrote: > On 2013-09-01, Rob wrote: > > The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright > holder (The University of Delaware) makes no representations > about the suitability this software for any purpose. It is > provided "as is" without express or i

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-01, Maarten Wiltink wrote: > "unruh" wrote in message > news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... >> On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists >>wrote: > > [...] >>> perhaps it has already been fixed in a more recent version. >> >> Sorry, but I have

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

"Rob" wrote in message news:slrnl2684g.6em.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl... [...] > Like "unruh", I hate developers and companies with this attitude. Well, thanks, I'll keep that in mind. For the record, I have no particular dislike for you. > When there is no reason to believe that a particular problem

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-09-01, Rob wrote: > Maarten Wiltink wrote: > >> "unruh" wrote: >> >>> On 2013-08-31, BlackLists wrote: >>> perhaps it has already been fixed in a more recent version. [snip] >>> Sorry, but I have always found this to be a complete copout. [snip] >> As a developer (not NTP) mys

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 9/1/2013 7:10 AM, Rob wrote: Maarten Wiltink wrote: "unruh" wrote in message news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: [...] perhaps it has already been fixed in a more recent version. Sorry, but I ha

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Maarten Wiltink wrote: > "unruh" wrote in message > news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... >> On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists >>wrote: > > [...] >>> perhaps it has already been fixed in a more recent version. >> >> Sorry, but I have always found t

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

"unruh" wrote in message news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... > On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists >wrote: [...] >> perhaps it has already been fixed in a more recent version. > > Sorry, but I have always found this to be a complete copout. You can

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

In article , E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: > Magnus Danielson wrote:> BlackLists wrote: > >> What ntpdc commands did you issue, and what results did you get? > > > Unfortunatly no. I got the call after the fact, > > but lack of remote login due to time error

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: > Magnus Danielson wrote:> BlackLists wrote: >>> What ntpdc commands did you issue, and what results did you get? > >> Unfortunatly no. I got the call after the fact, >> but lack of remote login due to time error w

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Magnus Danielson wrote:> BlackLists wrote: >> What ntpdc commands did you issue, and what results did you get? > Unfortunatly no. I got the call after the fact, > but lack of remote login due to time error would prohibit > me from doing anything anyway. > The server needed to be operational rath

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 2013-08-30, Magnus Danielson wrote: > On 08/30/2013 04:17 AM, > BlackLists wrote: > >> Have you tried a newer version of NTP ? >> [snip] > No, I listed the affected version as packaged by Debian. We have an autobuilder which packages the current ntp-dev s

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

On 08/30/2013 04:17 AM, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: > Magnus Danielson wrote: >> We had another incident where a node configured with multiple NTP >> sources had an NTPD which when asked with ntpdc have peers, looks like >> things are all OK, but with offsets

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Magnus Danielson wrote: > We had another incident where a node configured with multiple NTP > sources had an NTPD which when asked with ntpdc have peers, looks like > things are all OK, but with offsets less than a second, while the node > in fact was 6 days off the mark. Only on a number of ntpdc

[ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

Hi, We had another incident where a node configured with multiple NTP sources had an NTPD which when asked with ntpdc have peers, looks like things are all OK, but with offsets less than a second, while the node in fact was 6 days off the mark. Only on a number of ntpdc querries did some of the pe