Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-09 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Uwe Klein wrote: ( OT: I had looked into GPS attitude compass devices for a potential customer. first seen usage some years ago by Armadillo Aerospace for attitude control exorbitantly expensive 5..10k€. I'd like to have a cheap dual antenna device ) GPS for attitude ? A GPS with an

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-09 Thread Uwe Klein
Rick Jones wrote: Uwe Klein u...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote: ( OT: I had looked into GPS attitude compass devices for a potential customer. first seen usage some years ago by Armadillo Aerospace for attitude control exorbitantly expensive 5..10k€. I'd like to have a cheap dual antenna

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-09 Thread Uwe Klein
E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: Uwe Klein wrote: ( OT: I had looked into GPS attitude compass devices for a potential customer. first seen usage some years ago by Armadillo Aerospace for attitude control exorbitantly expensive 5..10k€. I'd like to have a

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread Terje Mathisen
unruh wrote: On 2011-04-07, Uwe Kleinu...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote: unruh wrote: Somewhat more awkward than Terje's program, but it works. I've collected a bit of information http://wiederlinge.de/cgi-bin/lnwiki.cgi/147 and wrote a basic parser script:

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread Uwe Klein
unruh wrote: I am also quite impressed with the sensitivity. I am sitting inside my office (on the east side of the building with huge trees just outside the window, and am getting timeing lockon.) my lab is on ground floor, 2 storey house, wooden floors, thatched roof. A large shed with

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread Uwe Klein
Terje Mathisen wrote: I have tested and verified that at least my Sure board does not allow me to ask for most of the 19 NMEA sentences listed in the 314 command: Turning on all actually resulted in 5 or 6. I'll try again after first setting the board to 38400 baud. (Maybe it only allows

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread Terje Mathisen
Uwe Klein wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: I have tested and verified that at least my Sure board does not allow me to ask for most of the 19 NMEA sentences listed in the 314 command: Turning on all actually resulted in 5 or 6. I'll try again after first setting the board to 38400 baud. (Maybe it

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread Uwe Klein
Terje Mathisen wrote: I can try that as well, but it really does seem like this is the full list of what you can get (notice PMTKCHN has room for up to 32 sats!) over the days I see 49 distinct sats ;-) highest satno 02 .. 51

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread Terje Mathisen
Uwe Klein wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: I can try that as well, but it really does seem like this is the full list of what you can get (notice PMTKCHN has room for up to 32 sats!) over the days I see 49 distinct sats ;-) highest satno 02 .. 51

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-08, Terje Mathisen terje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: unruh wrote: On 2011-04-07, Uwe Kleinu...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote: unruh wrote: Somewhat more awkward than Terje's program, but it works. I've collected a bit of information http://wiederlinge.de/cgi-bin/lnwiki.cgi/147

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-08, unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote: On 2011-04-08, Terje Mathisen terje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: unruh wrote: On 2011-04-07, Uwe Kleinu...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote: unruh wrote: Somewhat more awkward than Terje's program, but it works. I've collected a bit of

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
unruh wrote: a more complete set of instructions that can be sent under the MTK protocol is in gpsd.googlecode.com/files/MTK_NMEA_Packet_0.71_Sanav.pdf There is slightly newer one here: www.rigacci.org/wiki/lib/exe/fetch.php/doc/appunti/hardware/gps/mtk_nmea_packet_0.8_transystem.pdf

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-08, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: unruh wrote: a more complete set of instructions that can be sent under the MTK protocol is in gpsd.googlecode.com/files/MTK_NMEA_Packet_0.71_Sanav.pdf There is slightly

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-08, unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote: On 2011-04-08, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: unruh wrote: a more complete set of instructions that can be sent under the MTK protocol is in

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-08, Uwe Klein u...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: I have tested and verified that at least my Sure board does not allow me to ask for most of the 19 NMEA sentences listed in the 314 command: Turning on all actually resulted in 5 or 6. I'll try again after

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-08 Thread Rick Jones
Uwe Klein u...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote: ( OT: I had looked into GPS attitude compass devices for a potential customer. first seen usage some years ago by Armadillo Aerospace for attitude control exorbitantly expensive 5..10k€. I'd like to have a cheap dual antenna device ) Being a

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-07 Thread Uwe Klein
unruh wrote: Somewhat more awkward than Terje's program, but it works. I've collected a bit of information http://wiederlinge.de/cgi-bin/lnwiki.cgi/147 and wrote a basic parser script: http://wiederlinge.de/cgi-bin/lnwiki.cgi/150 Terje added some info too. I will add the

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-07 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-07, unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote: On 2011-04-07, Uwe Klein u...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote: unruh wrote: Somewhat more awkward than Terje's program, but it works. I've collected a bit of information http://wiederlinge.de/cgi-bin/lnwiki.cgi/147 and wrote a basic

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-06 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-06, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:42 PM, unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote: What libraries do you use-- I seem to have neither tchar.h of window.h. Seems that this was written for MS Windows platform. Those are non-standard

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-06 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-05, Terje Mathisen terje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: unruh wrote: On 2011-04-04, Terje Mathisenterje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: I.e. the proper programming setup seems to be: 1: Listen to incoming chars. 2: After a CRLF sequence, start a timer: If a new

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-05 Thread Terje Mathisen
unruh wrote: On 2011-04-04, Terje Mathisenterje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: I.e. the proper programming setup seems to be: 1: Listen to incoming chars. 2: After a CRLF sequence, start a timer: If a new char arrives within less than 40 ms, goto 1. 3: Send '0', start

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-05 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-05, Terje Mathisen terje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: unruh wrote: On 2011-04-04, Terje Mathisenterje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: So you have the code for this program available? Is it really necessary Sure, but it is very definitely a hack-in-progress:

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-05 Thread Terje Mathisen
unruh wrote: On 2011-04-05, Terje Mathisenterje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: I haven't tried without, and it does protect against some line errors, so why not? because if you are generating the lines by hand and sending it to the chip via say minicom with the Y option, calculating the checksum

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-05 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-05, Terje Mathisen terje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: unruh wrote: On 2011-04-05, Terje Mathisenterje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: I haven't tried without, and it does protect against some line errors, so why not? because if you are generating the lines by hand and sending it to the

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-05 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-05, unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote: On 2011-04-05, Terje Mathisen terje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: unruh wrote: On 2011-04-04, Terje Mathisenterje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: So you have the code for this program available? Is it really necessary

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-04 Thread David J Taylor
I've written a tiny program to do exactly this and this is the output: [] BTW, this morning I got 14 sats in the (4!) GSV messages, that's the first time I've seen a GPS with info about more than 12 sats! :-) Terje Terje, That's great! Any chance of a copy of the program? Did you ever

[ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-04 Thread Terje Mathisen
Terje Mathisen wrote: I.e. the proper programming setup seems to be: 1: Listen to incoming chars. 2: After a CRLF sequence, start a timer: If a new char arrives within less than 40 ms, goto 1. 3: Send '0', start timer waiting for CD to drop. 4: If CD drops before any new chars arrive, we are

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-04 Thread Uwe Klein
Terje Mathisen wrote: BTW, this morning I got 14 sats in the (4!) GSV messages, that's the first time I've seen a GPS with info about more than 12 sats! :-) Terje I've added some info and (tcl)code to http://wiederlinge.de/cgi-bin/lnwiki.cgi/147 ( And thanks for your help. ) Going to insert

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-04 Thread Uwe Klein
Terje Mathisen wrote: BTW, this morning I got 14 sats in the (4!) GSV messages, that's the first time I've seen a GPS with info about more than 12 sats! :-) Terje I've added some info and (tcl)code to http://wiederlinge.de/cgi-bin/lnwiki.cgi/147 ( And thanks for your help. ) Going to insert

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS: Programming it now works

2011-04-04 Thread unruh
On 2011-04-04, Terje Mathisen terje.mathisen at tmsw.no wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: I.e. the proper programming setup seems to be: 1: Listen to incoming chars. 2: After a CRLF sequence, start a timer: If a new char arrives within less than 40 ms, goto 1. 3: Send '0', start timer waiting