In article ,
Harlan Stenn wrote:
> >>> In article , Joseph
> >>> Gwinn writes:
>
> Joseph> In article ,
> Joseph> Harlan Stenn wrote:
>
> >> >>> In article , Joseph
> >> >>> Gwinn writes:
> >>
> >> >> I think you are talking about one of my pet peeves:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://support.ntp
Status code values fixed.
At 10:47 PM -0400 3/15/09, Danny Mayer wrote:
>Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>> Hmm. OK, but I think that we've kind of run off the rails. Let me
>> summarize:
>>
>> 1. Sun Microsystems' current behavior is not the issue, as I'm loading
>> old software from an old CD onto o
At 11:19 PM -0400 3/15/09, Danny Mayer wrote:
>Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>
The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations.
>>> I'm not sure if this qualifies as an FAQ as I don't recall that it has
>>> come up before. FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions.
>>
>> RAQ then? Rarely Asked Q
At 10:38 PM -0400 3/15/09, Danny Mayer wrote:
>Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>
>> What's the story for IBM's AIX?
>>
>
>It builds on AIX too. It builds on most Unix systems though maybe not on
>some of the oldest O/S versions.
Great.
I don't know why IBM doesn't have NTPv4 on their AIX boxes, as IBM
off
>>> In article , Joseph Gwinn
>>> writes:
Joseph> In article ,
Joseph> Harlan Stenn wrote:
>> >>> In article , Joseph
>> >>> Gwinn writes:
>>
>> >> I think you are talking about one of my pet peeves:
>> >>
>> >> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/NtpVariablesAndNtpq
Joseph> I don't think
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article ,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> In article <49bdc52b.20...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote:
>>>
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations.
>> I'm not sure if this qualifies
In article ,
"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49bdc52b.20...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote:
> >
> >> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>
> > The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations.
> I'm not sure if this qualifies as an FAQ as I don't reca
In article ,
"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49bdbbbe.4030...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>> What's the story for IBM's AIX?
> >>>
> >> It builds on AIX too. It builds on most Unix systems though maybe not o
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bdc52b.20...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>
> The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations.
I'm not sure if this qualifies as an FAQ as I don't recall that it has
come up before. FAQ stands for Frequ
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bdbbbe.4030...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> What's the story for IBM's AIX?
>>>
>> It builds on AIX too. It builds on most Unix systems though maybe not on
>> some of the oldest O/S versions.
>
> Including the AIX
In article <49bdc52b.20...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>
> >>> The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations.
> >> I'm not sure if this qualifies as an FAQ as I don't recall that it has
> >> come up before. FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions.
>
In article
<89b3231f-d79a-4fb1-b449-fe574bca8...@j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
paul.cro...@softwareag.com wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> If you're not willing to get the source code for NTP and compile it,
> you can download a binary from http://www.sunfreeware.com/.
> It's probably configured with a 's
In article <49bdbbbe.4030...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >
> > What's the story for IBM's AIX?
> >
>
> It builds on AIX too. It builds on most Unix systems though maybe not on
> some of the oldest O/S versions.
Including the AIX we use, as mentioned in
In article <49be52ab.1000...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
wrote:
> Joe Gwinn wrote:
> > Status code values fixed.
> >
> > At 10:47 PM -0400 3/15/09, Danny Mayer wrote:
> >> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>> Hmm. OK, but I think that we've kind of run off the rails. Let me
> >>> summarize:
>
In article ,
Harlan Stenn wrote:
> >>> In article , Joseph
> >>> Gwinn writes:
>
> >> I think you are talking about one of my pet peeves:
> >>
> >> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/NtpVariablesAndNtpq
>
> Joseph> I don't think that I have inconsistent versions of ntpd and ntpq,
> Joseph
In article ,
"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article ,
> > "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> >
> >> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>> In article ,
> >>> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> >>>
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Da
In article ,
Harlan Stenn wrote:
> >>> In article , Joseph
> >>> Gwinn writes:
>
> Joseph> What AIX version and Technology Level (~=patch level) have been used
> Joseph> to build NTPv4?
>
> powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.3.0
> powerpc-ibm-aix5.1.0.0
> powerpc-ibm-aix5.2.0.0
> powerpc-ibm-aix5.3.0.0
Tha
In article <1237210896.237...@news1nwk>,
Brian Utterback wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > Also good to know, so I'll know better than to use the Sun compiler (not
> > that it's bad, but that it isn't what's been worked through with NTP).
>
> Not to worry, I make sure that the current -dev bran
In article <20090316063319.f2...@bulldog.localhost.org>,
hun...@comcast.net (Rob Neal) wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>
> > In article ,
> > "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> >
[snip]
> >
> >>> The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if this qual
>>> In article , Joseph Gwinn
>>> writes:
Joseph> What AIX version and Technology Level (~=patch level) have been used
Joseph> to build NTPv4?
powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.3.0
powerpc-ibm-aix5.1.0.0
powerpc-ibm-aix5.2.0.0
powerpc-ibm-aix5.3.0.0
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>>> In article , Joseph Gwinn
>>> writes:
>> I think you are talking about one of my pet peeves:
>>
>> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/NtpVariablesAndNtpq
Joseph> I don't think that I have inconsistent versions of ntpd and ntpq,
Joseph> because both came off the same CD from Sun Microsyst
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> Also good to know, so I'll know better than to use the Sun compiler (not
> that it's bad, but that it isn't what's been worked through with NTP).
Not to worry, I make sure that the current -dev branch will always
build with the Sun Studio compilers.
Brian Utterback
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Joe Gwinn wrote:
> Status code values fixed.
>
> At 10:47 PM -0400 3/15/09, Danny Mayer wrote:
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> Hmm. OK, but I think that we've kind of run off the rails. Let me
>>> summarize:
>>> 1. Sun Microsystems' current behavior is not the issue, as I'm loading
>>> old softw
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article ,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>>>
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> wrote:
>
>>> [snip]
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article ,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>>>
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> wrote:
>
>>> [snip]
> 3. The original
On 16 Mrz., 11:02, "David J Taylor" wrote:
> paul.cro...@softwareag.com wrote:
> > Joseph,
>
> > If you're not willing to get the source code for NTP and compile it,
> > you can download a binary fromhttp://www.sunfreeware.com/.
> > It's probably configured with a 'standard' set of
> > refclock dr
paul.cro...@softwareag.com wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> If you're not willing to get the source code for NTP and compile it,
> you can download a binary from http://www.sunfreeware.com/.
> It's probably configured with a 'standard' set of
> refclock drivers and, as a consequence, may be larger
> than a cus
Joseph,
If you're not willing to get the source code for NTP and compile it,
you can download a binary from http://www.sunfreeware.com/.
It's probably configured with a 'standard' set of
refclock drivers and, as a consequence, may be larger
than a custom-configured version.
Paul
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations.
>> I'm not sure if this qualifies as an FAQ as I don't recall that it has
>> come up before. FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions.
>
> RAQ then? Rarely Asked Questions
>
> Seriously, I can't believe that I'm the o
John Hasler wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert writes:
>> None at all. I don't pay for it! If I were the system administrator for
>> a commercial system supporting a business, I would be paying Sun for some
>> level of support.
>
> And you can purchase support for Free Software. Even old, obsolete
> v
Unruh wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn writes:
>
>> In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
>> wrote:
>
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> Is NTP v4 proven to run on Solaris 9 (SunOS 5.9 Generic May 2002)?
Proven? Please define that! It works for
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> Hmm. OK, but I think that we've kind of run off the rails. Let me
> summarize:
>
> 1. Sun Microsystems' current behavior is not the issue, as I'm loading
> old software from an old CD onto old computer hardware, hardware that
> cannot support a newer version of Solari
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>
> What's the story for IBM's AIX?
>
It builds on AIX too. It builds on most Unix systems though maybe not on
some of the oldest O/S versions.
Danny
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In article ,
"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article ,
> > "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> >
> >> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>> In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> > [snip]
> >>> 3. The original question was how to inter
Richard B. Gilbert writes:
> None at all. I don't pay for it! If I were the system administrator for
> a commercial system supporting a business, I would be paying Sun for some
> level of support.
And you can purchase support for Free Software. Even old, obsolete
versions.
--
John Hasler
j...
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article ,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
>>> wrote:
>>>
> [snip]
>>> 3. The original question was how to interpret a specific status code,
>>> 9514. I read the explanation
Unruh wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn writes:
>
>> In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
>> wrote:
>
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> Is NTP v4 proven to run on Solaris 9 (SunOS 5.9 Generic May 2002)?
Proven? Please define that! It works for
Status codes also fixed below.
In article ,
Harlan Stenn wrote:
> >>> In article , Joseph
> >>> Gwinn writes:
>
> Joseph> Let me summarize:
>
> Joseph> 1. Sun Microsystems' current behavior is not the issue, as I'm
> Joseph> loading old software from an old CD onto old computer hardware,
>
Joseph Gwinn writes:
>In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
>wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> > Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>> >> Is NTP v4 proven to run on Solaris 9 (SunOS 5.9 Generic May 2002)?
>> >
>> > Proven? Please define that! It works for me. YMMV!
>>
>>
In article ,
"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> > wrote:
> >
[snip]
> >
> > 3. The original question was how to interpret a specific status code,
> > 9514. I read the explanation in the documentation, b
In article ,
Harlan Stenn wrote:
> >>> In article , Joseph
> >>> Gwinn writes:
>
> Joseph> In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> Joseph> wrote:
>
> Danny> NTP v4 builds on most versions of Solaris. If for some reason it does
> Danny> not build, Harlan can help
>>> In article , Joseph Gwinn
>>> writes:
Joseph> Let me summarize:
Joseph> 1. Sun Microsystems' current behavior is not the issue, as I'm
Joseph> loading old software from an old CD onto old computer hardware,
Joseph> hardware that cannot support a newer version of Solaris than v9.
Joseph> O
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
>>> wrote:
>>>
Ronan Flood wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
> Joseph Gwinn w
Unruh wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn writes:
>
>> In article ,
>> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>
>
The suspicion is that we have not set something up correctly, not that
NTP v3 has failed, or that NTP v4 would fare better or worse. Don't
understand the comment about funding.
>>> S
>>> In article , Joseph Gwinn
>>> writes:
Joseph> In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
Joseph> wrote:
Danny> NTP v4 builds on most versions of Solaris. If for some reason it does
Danny> not build, Harlan can help with that since he's the build master. We
Danny> hav
In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ronan Flood wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
> >>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>>
> NTP ver
In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> > Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >> Is NTP v4 proven to run on Solaris 9 (SunOS 5.9 Generic May 2002)?
> >
> > Proven? Please define that! It works for me. YMMV!
>
> NTP v4 builds on most versions
Joseph Gwinn writes:
>In article ,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
>> > The suspicion is that we have not set something up correctly, not that
>> > NTP v3 has failed, or that NTP v4 would fare better or worse. Don't
>> > understand the comment about funding.
>> >
>>
>> Simple enough. The p
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>> Is NTP v4 proven to run on Solaris 9 (SunOS 5.9 Generic May 2002)?
>
> Proven? Please define that! It works for me. YMMV!
NTP v4 builds on most versions of Solaris. If for some reason it does
not build, Harlan can help with that since he's the
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> wrote:
>
>> Ronan Flood wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
>>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>>
NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give
me the full version, in
In article ,
"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ronan Flood wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
> >>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>>
> NTP version 3 is running. I've been tr
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
> wrote:
>
>> Ronan Flood wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
>>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>>
NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give
me the full version, in
In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer)
wrote:
> Ronan Flood wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
> > Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >
> >> NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give
> >> me the full version, including dot (like 3.4y), a
Ronan Flood wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>
>> NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give
>> me the full version, including dot (like 3.4y), and I get answers, but
>> don't know which one to believe, and if the version given is t
In article <49bb8860$0$507$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
David Woolley wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49bae109$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
> > Da
> >> ntpd doesn't care about what the drift is in determining root distance.
> >> It simply takes the position that the actual
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49bae109$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
> Da
>> ntpd doesn't care about what the drift is in determining root distance.
>> It simply takes the position that the actual local clock will be
>> somewhere within +/- 15ppm of the value which would achieve perfe
In article ,
"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > I have been debugging some system problems. The main system is too
> > complicated, with too many people doing too many things, so I sought
> > quiet refuge in an isolated test system consisting of a NTP timeserver
> > connec
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> I have been debugging some system problems. The main system is too
> complicated, with too many people doing too many things, so I sought
> quiet refuge in an isolated test system consisting of a NTP timeserver
> connected by a point-to-point ethernet cable to a computer r
In article <71vg2ffn8ir...@mid.individual.net>,
Ronan Flood wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>
> > NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give
> > me the full version, including dot (like 3.4y), and I get answers, but
> > don't kn
In article <49bae109$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
David Woolley wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > In article <49ba0e33$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
> > David Woolley wrote:
> >
> >> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is this error likely telling me? What are the possibilities? W
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> In article <49ba0e33$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
> David Woolley wrote:
>
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>
>>> What is this error likely telling me? What are the possibilities? What
>>> tests will tell the tale?
>> Your timeservers are unsynchronised, but for some reason
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500,
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give
> me the full version, including dot (like 3.4y), and I get answers, but
> don't know which one to believe, and if the version given is that of the
> NTP daemon its
In article <49ba0e33$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
David Woolley wrote:
> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>
> > What is this error likely telling me? What are the possibilities? What
> > tests will tell the tale?
>
> Your timeservers are unsynchronised, but for some reason not setting
> their str
In article
<8dca286d-ba66-4caf-8090-a3467064a...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Mike K Smith wrote:
> On 13 Mar, 04:31, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> > The timeserver can be either a Symmetricom ET6010 GPS receiver feeding
> > an IRIG-B002 time signal to a Symmetricom TS2100 Network Time Server, or
>
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> What is this error likely telling me? What are the possibilities? What
> tests will tell the tale?
Your timeservers are unsynchronised, but for some reason not setting
their stratum to 16.
Distance exceeded means that the combination of worst case round trip
time induc
On 13 Mar, 04:31, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> The timeserver can be either a Symmetricom ET6010 GPS receiver feeding
> an IRIG-B002 time signal to a Symmetricom TS2100 Network Time Server, or
> a Spectracom 9383 NTP timeserver with built-in GPS receiver. The GPS
> receivers are driven from a common ant
I have been debugging some system problems. The main system is too
complicated, with too many people doing too many things, so I sought
quiet refuge in an isolated test system consisting of a NTP timeserver
connected by a point-to-point ethernet cable to a computer running NTP,
which generates
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