Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-08-05 Thread zerfetzen
I just wanted to let everyone know the good news, that I was approved to use R at work by legal and compliance. Now to begin learning here. Speaking of, is there anyone who is an expert at R and would be willing to have our company pay them as a consultant to come to my place of work (in Connect

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 21:05 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > now which license to use? Use whatever you or your company want to use. As long as it is in compliance with GPL2 (as that is the licence R currently uses) then you are fine. As to whether what you intend to do is in compliance with the

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Gavin Simpson
make money of the code itself. G > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajay ohri [EMAIL > PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:39 AM > To: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License > > whats t

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread ohri2007
well, i am planning to test rattle (r gui) or even R on a cloud computer. IMO SAS (software ) scores over R because it handles bigger files more efficiently on SAME local hardware. but prices a huge premium on licenses. with R and a cloud, you pay for time spent (1+profit P). cloud ramps up proce

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Marc Schwartz
on 07/30/2008 10:35 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now which license to use? it is bad enough explaining SaaS (software as a service), and open source and data mining to lawyers, without the experts fighting it as well. and who pays for the cloud computing expenses for me then if there is no mone

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread ohri2007
now which license to use? it is bad enough explaining SaaS (software as a service), and open source and data mining to lawyers, without the experts fighting it as well. and who pays for the cloud computing expenses for me then if there is no money in it. cloud computing doesnt exist in India rig

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Roland Rau
Hi, Stevens, Martin Henry H. Dr. wrote: The limit of use is that you cannot profit from it. It is Open Source. I am not sure what you mean exactly. If you mean that you can not earn any money selling free software (in terms of the GPL2, which is R's licence), this seems to be not the case:

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Marc Schwartz
ource. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajay ohri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:39 AM To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License whats the license policy of

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Stevens, Martin Henry H. Dr.
about R's Open Source GNU GPL License whats the license policy of using r as a SaaS with other apps, priced for a fee. I am not sure which license to invoke. regards, ajay [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing

Re: [R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Marc Schwartz
on 07/30/2008 08:39 AM Ajay ohri wrote: whats the license policy of using r as a SaaS with other apps, priced for a fee. I am not sure which license to invoke. regards, ajay See this post: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-June/165906.html HTH, Marc Schwartz _

[R] R -Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-30 Thread Ajay ohri
whats the license policy of using r as a SaaS with other apps, priced for a fee. I am not sure which license to invoke. regards, ajay [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listin

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-29 Thread Charles Annis, P.E.
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Henderson Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:04 PM To: Gad Abraham Cc: r-help@r-project.org; zerfetzen Subject: Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License Hello Gad: On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Gad Abraham wrote: >> If

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-29 Thread David Henderson
Hello Gad: On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Gad Abraham wrote: If your legal department is still concerned, have them look at the license in Java. It most likely is GPL (unless you have a special commercial version of Java installed) and thus makes any Java program you create subject to the G

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-29 Thread Gad Abraham
Gad Abraham wrote: If your legal department is still concerned, have them look at the license in Java. It most likely is GPL (unless you have a special commercial version of Java installed) and thus makes any Java program you create subject to the GPL in Java due to the JIT compiler used in J

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-29 Thread Gad Abraham
If your legal department is still concerned, have them look at the license in Java. It most likely is GPL (unless you have a special commercial version of Java installed) and thus makes any Java program you create subject to the GPL in Java due to the JIT compiler used in Java. If your legal

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-29 Thread David Henderson
PROTECTED]> Date: July 28, 2008 11:32:04 AM PDT To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License Hi, I use R at home, and am interested in using it at my work company (which is in the Fortune 100). I began the request, and our legal team h

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-28 Thread zerfetzen
Thanks to each of you for your excellent input. I have copied the file and will read it tonight. I haven't run into any heat from IT, but if I do, it will be in the near future. The exact legal issue was touched upon. There was a concern that anything associated with R (my code, etc.) would ha

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-28 Thread Marc Schwartz
on 07/28/2008 01:32 PM zerfetzen wrote: Hi, I use R at home, and am interested in using it at my work company (which is in the Fortune 100). I began the request, and our legal team has given some gruff about the open source license. Not boring you with the details here, but I used some info on

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-28 Thread Roland Rau
Jim Porzak wrote: All this is included in the distribution in "doc" folder: 1. see FAQ: "2.11 Can I use R for commercial purposes?" 2. Specific GNU License is in file COPYING Furthermore, the start-up message of R can (hopefully) help you in your case. It mentions to type in license() or lice

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-28 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 7/28/2008 2:32 PM, zerfetzen wrote: Hi, I use R at home, and am interested in using it at my work company (which is in the Fortune 100). I began the request, and our legal team has given some gruff about the open source license. Not boring you with the details here, but I used some info on g

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick Burns
I'll leave it to someone else to answer the question that you asked, but I don't mind answering the question that you didn't ask: Are there alternatives ways of getting R into the company? Yes. There are now some commercially supported versions of R -- see 'What is R-plus?' in the R-FAQ for a l

Re: [R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-28 Thread Jim Porzak
All this is included in the distribution in "doc" folder: 1. see FAQ: "2.11 Can I use R for commercial purposes?" 2. Specific GNU License is in file COPYING HTH, Jim Porzak Responsys, Inc. San Francisco, CA http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimporzak On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:32 AM, zerfetzen <[EMA

[R] Legality Question about R's Open Source GNU GPL License

2008-07-28 Thread zerfetzen
Hi, I use R at home, and am interested in using it at my work company (which is in the Fortune 100). I began the request, and our legal team has given some gruff about the open source license. Not boring you with the details here, but I used some info on gnu.org as a rebuttal, and someone at the