RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-08 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 17:01, Jari Oksanen wrote: > > I just wait for someone jumping off and saying this is off-topic and you > should stop posting to this list -- and I'm afraid it could happen just > at this point. Just to make it clear and to avoid misunderstanding: I was trying to reach a p

RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-08 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 17:01, Jari Oksanen wrote: > > I just wait for someone jumping off and saying this is off-topic and you > should stop posting to this list -- and I'm afraid it could happen just > at this point. Just to make it clear and to avoid misunderstanding: I was trying to reach a p

RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-08 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 14:10, Rau, Roland wrote: > Dear all, > > browsing through the suggestions, I have the impression that the general > direction is towards an animal from New Zealand (I guess because of the > roots of R). But since the R Foundation is now located in Vienna, > Austria. What ab

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-08 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Given the likely reception that newbies get on r-help, those two classifications, i.e. a reptile which is cold-blooeded animal or an insect which is an annoying pest, are not altogether off the mark but to really capture the experience, Don Rickles should be the mascot. Spencer Graves pdf.com>

RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-08 Thread Rau, Roland
reposting... -Original Message- From: Rau, Roland Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [R] How about a mascot for R? Dear all, browsing through the suggestions, I have the impression that the general direction is towards an animal from New

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-07 Thread Spencer Graves
I prefer not to consider the implications of associating ourselves with something extinct. Beyond that, I'm more into reptiles that insects. On the other hand, I don't care much. I'm happy with the status quo and would be happy with whatever others decide. Best Wishes, spenc

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-07 Thread Robert Gentleman
On Dec 6, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Richard A. O'Keefe wrote: Thomas Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ps. Ross has Maori origins, so a native NZ animal is a better idea than usual. The native animals of New Zealand include no mammals except for - marine mammals in the coastal waters, such as

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-06 Thread Richard A. O'Keefe
Thomas Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ps. Ross has Maori origins, so a native NZ animal is a better idea than usual. The native animals of New Zealand include no mammals except for - marine mammals in the coastal waters, such as the Hector's dolphin - a few species of bat which got

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-04 Thread Jari Oksanen
On 4 Dec 2004, at 16:19, Martin Maechler wrote: "DScottNZ" == David Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:04:52 +1300 (NZDT) writes: <> DScottNZ> As to an animal mascot, I think a New Zealand DScottNZ> mascot is a must, well, thinking that "must" is bit strong, I

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-04 Thread Andrew Robinson
Ruud, try something like the following (not debugged, no coffee yet): xyplot(coupon.period ~ median, data=prepayment, subscripts=T, panel=function(x,y,subscripts,...){ panel.xyplot(x,y) panel.segments(deel1$lcl[subscripts], deel$ucl[subscripts]) } ) I hope that this helps, And

Re[2]: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-04 Thread Ruud H. Koning
Hello, I have a dataset with three numerical variables, and two factor variables, one of which is shown: > deel1[,1:4] median ucl lcl coupon.period 1 10.894672NA 14.255623 fixed0-1 5 12.536729 11.658164 13.341038 fixed1-5 9 10.616561 9.979676 11.039264

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-04 Thread Douglas Grove
When I think of New Zealand I think "Rabbit" :) How 'bout something like the Monty Python rabbit from "the Holy Grail" ("nasty pointy teeth...", "look at the bones!") Doug __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-04 Thread Christian Schulz
hi, some weka guys use "kea" (..with the same intenion to the bird in nz!) for a automatic keyphrase extraction tool (java). http://www.nzdl.org/Kea/ regards, christian Martin Maechler wrote: "DScottNZ" == David Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:04:52 +1300 (NZDT) writes:

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-04 Thread Martin Maechler
> "DScottNZ" == David Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:04:52 +1300 (NZDT) writes: <> DScottNZ> As to an animal mascot, I think a New Zealand DScottNZ> mascot is a must, well, thinking that "must" is bit strong, I agree that I have had the s

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-03 Thread Thomas Yee
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 03:04:52PM +1300, David Scott wrote: >As to an animal mascot, I think a New Zealand mascot is a must, and >suggestions of Australian ones would not be warmly received by New >Zealanders. (To clarify, despite the address, I am Australian.) > >My suggestion is the Kea: inquisi

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-03 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Kjetil Brinchmann Halvorsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Philippe Grosjean wrote: > > >I'd vote for the inchworm because what is more representative to stat? The > >Gauss curve, of course! What looks like a Gauss curve? The inchworm: > > > Erling B. Andersen tells in his paper in "Rasch Models:

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-03 Thread Kjetil Brinchmann Halvorsen
Philippe Grosjean wrote: I'd vote for the inchworm because what is more representative to stat? The Gauss curve, of course! What looks like a Gauss curve? The inchworm: Erling B. Andersen tells in his paper in "Rasch Models: Foundations, Recent Developments, and Applications" edited by G. H. F

RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-03 Thread Philippe Grosjean
I'd vote for the inchworm because what is more representative to stat? The Gauss curve, of course! What looks like a Gauss curve? The inchworm: http://www.floridanature.org/photos/Geometridae,_Tallahassee,_20011230.jpg http://www.daniellesplace.com/Images2/inchwormcoloractivity.gif Best, Philip

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Anon.
David Scott wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Patrick Connolly wrote: On Thu, 02-Dec-2004 at 02:08PM -0600, Erin Hodgess wrote: |> How about an R-madillo? I'm for R-gnu which already has a song (as pointed out by Murray Jorgensen some time back). I'm sure an arrangement could be worked out with the Emacs

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 22:56, Peter Dalgaard wrote: > Tim Churches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Damian Betebenner wrote: > > > R users, > > > How come R doesn't have a mascot? > > > > Perhaps someone with artistic flair could create a mascot based on > > this image? It would help to give newc

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Andrew Robinson
David, you raise an interesting point. However, my wife reminds me that another reason to consider the use of the kangaroo is the popular story that the origin of the word, far from being the name of the animal, is the local dialect for "I don't know". The OED notes this origin in passing, along

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread David Scott
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Patrick Connolly wrote: On Thu, 02-Dec-2004 at 02:08PM -0600, Erin Hodgess wrote: |> How about an R-madillo? I'm for R-gnu which already has a song (as pointed out by Murray Jorgensen some time back). I'm sure an arrangement could be worked out with the Emacs people. The Flande

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Richard A. O'Keefe
Given R's origin in Auckland, NZ, perhaps something a little less North American than a raccoon might be appropriate. If a mascot didn't have to be animate, a pohutakawa flower (metrosideros excelsa) would be an excellent choice: - The Pohutakawa is called 'The New Zealand Christmas Tree', the

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Andrew Robinson
My handy copy of the Oxford English Dictionary attributes the association that you quote, including the reference to lepping, to Yule and Kendall 1937, p. 165. The entry is under "platykurtic". Andrew > Ted Harding wrote: > > > >But what appeals to me about this suggestion is that it made > >me

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Tom Mulholland
Apologies for that I meant only to send it to Ted Tom Mulholland wrote: G'day mate ... __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html _

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Tom Mulholland
m ends with "a real cold beer" Ted Harding wrote: On 02-Dec-04 Henrik Bengtsson wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian Betebenner Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [R] How about a mas

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Kenneth Cabrera
I vote for R-madillo! Erin Hodgess wrote: How about an R-madillo? Erin from Texas __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html -- Kenneth Ro

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Tim Churches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Damian Betebenner wrote: > > R users, > > How come R doesn't have a mascot? > > Perhaps someone with artistic flair could create a mascot based on > this image? It would help to give newcomers to R-help the right idea: > > http://www.accesscom.com/~alva

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Patrick Connolly
On Thu, 02-Dec-2004 at 02:08PM -0600, Erin Hodgess wrote: |> How about an R-madillo? I'm for R-gnu which already has a song (as pointed out by Murray Jorgensen some time back). I'm sure an arrangement could be worked out with the Emacs people. The Flanders and Swann song, the exact title of wh

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Damián Cirelli
I think "Ross & Robert" should be consulted... Tux was born because Linus happend to say in a forum that he was rather fond of penguins ;-) May be these guys have a favourite animal... and it would be cool if each had a different favourite animal and thus one mythic "beast" could be created from

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Tim Churches
Damian Betebenner wrote: R users, How come R doesn't have a mascot? Perhaps someone with artistic flair could create a mascot based on this image? It would help to give newcomers to R-help the right idea: http://www.accesscom.com/~alvaro/alien/thepics/ripley1__.jpg Tim C signature.asc Descrip

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Erin Hodgess
How about an R-madillo? Erin from Texas __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Pierre BADY
why the marmot, would you tell us? simply, because, when a marmot sleeps (6 months a year), the only sounds that you can hear is. RRR RRR RRR... P. Bady & Y. Reyjol :-) At 20:41 02/12/2004 +0100, Pierre BADY wrote: >Hi all, > >The

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Pierre BADY
Hi all, The person next to me at desk thinks that marmot (Marmota marmota) is maybe more appropriate ...;o)) Take a look at: http://images.google.fr/images?q=marmot+&hl=fr&btnG=Recherche+Google otherwise Rooster ("R Object Oriented STatistics EnviRonment") is very funny ! hope this hekp ... ;o

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Jari Oksanen
On 2 Dec 2004, at 19:46, (Ted Harding) wrote: On 02-Dec-04 Henrik Bengtsson wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian Betebenner Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [R] How about a mascot for R

RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Charles Annis, P.E.
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 12:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R] How about a mascot for R? Ahh, to heck with all them animals. R is a system of interacting components, so I suggest Mr Gearhead as a suitable mascot. http://www.bitwrit.com.au/gearhead.png

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Jim Lemon
Ahh, to heck with all them animals. R is a system of interacting components, so I suggest Mr Gearhead as a suitable mascot. http://www.bitwrit.com.au/gearhead.png Jim __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEAS

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Patrick Burns
Or a furry and cuddly raccoon? Peter Dalgaard wrote: Damian Betebenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: R users, How come R doesn't have a mascot? Linux has one and so does LaTeX, so shouldn't R? I personally think that associating a "friendly face" with R would be a good thing for R (one letter na

RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Ted Harding
On 02-Dec-04 Henrik Bengtsson wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian >> Betebenner >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:07 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: [R] How

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Ernesto Jardim
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 17:01, Barry Rowlingson wrote: > Marc Schwartz wrote: > > > Well...curiously, O'Reilly has selected the Ram for the cover of an as > > yet unpublished work on R for Bioinformatics: > > And how come Amazon are selling non-new copies of unpublished books? > Is someone selli

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 12:07 -0500, Damian Betebenner wrote: > Excellent replies, > > So a couple of questions about preferences for the mascot: > > 1. Does the mascot need to have a name that starts with R? Is that > usually the way it works? > > So far the possibilities put forward are: Ray, Ra

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 17:01 +, Barry Rowlingson wrote: > Marc Schwartz wrote: > > > Well...curiously, O'Reilly has selected the Ram for the cover of an as > > yet unpublished work on R for Bioinformatics: > > And how come Amazon are selling non-new copies of unpublished books? > Is someone

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Albyn Jones
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 06:18:39PM +0100, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian > > Betebenner > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PRO

RE: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian > Betebenner > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [R] How about a mascot for R? > > > Excellent replies, >

[R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Damian Betebenner
Excellent replies, So a couple of questions about preferences for the mascot: 1. Does the mascot need to have a name that starts with R? Is that usually the way it works? So far the possibilities put forward are: Ray, Ram, Inch Worm, Rhinoceros 2. Should the depiction of the mascot be more "li

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Ernesto Jardim
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 16:40, Peter Dalgaard wrote: > Damian Betebenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > R users, > > > > How come R doesn't have a mascot? Linux has one and so does LaTeX, so > > shouldn't R? I personally think that associating a "friendly face" with R > > would be a good thing

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Marc Schwartz wrote: Well...curiously, O'Reilly has selected the Ram for the cover of an as yet unpublished work on R for Bioinformatics: And how come Amazon are selling non-new copies of unpublished books? Is someone selling a review copy? Mascot eh? Hmmm. Let's change the name of R to "Rooste

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Damian Betebenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > R users, > > How come R doesn't have a mascot? Linux has one and so does LaTeX, so > shouldn't R? I personally think that associating a "friendly face" with R > would be a good thing for R (one letter names can be quite intimidating). > > I apolo

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Ernesto Jardim
What about a Ray ? Take a look at: http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.cfm?ID=15487 a shark family called "Rhinobatus rhinobatus" check http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.cfm?ID=5016 ;-) regards EJ On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 16:12, Damian Betebenner wrote: > R users,

Re: [R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 11:12 -0500, Damian Betebenner wrote: > R users, > > How come R doesn't have a mascot? Linux has one and so does LaTeX, so > shouldn't R? I personally think that associating a "friendly face" > with R would be a good thing for R (one letter names can be quite > intimidating).

[R] How about a mascot for R?

2004-12-02 Thread Damian Betebenner
R users, How come R doesn't have a mascot? Linux has one and so does LaTeX, so shouldn't R? I personally think that associating a "friendly face" with R would be a good thing for R (one letter names can be quite intimidating). I apologize if this is addressed in the FAQ. I searched the FAQ as w