Re: [R] Re: diamond graphs and patents

2003-08-28 Thread Barry Rowlingson
David Scott wrote: but if any of us are to do likewise I guess we will either pay up or secretly write code and play around with diamond graphs while hidden in the basement. Okay, lets stand up and be counted: who has been writing diamond graph code? Mine's 60 lines. Like others I welcome the

RE: [R] Re: diamond graphs, patents and rootograms

2003-08-28 Thread Mulholland, Tom
Talking about Excel, you can produce excellent graphs in Excel. Yes you have to work at it, but you can get there. The problem is that they are not the default. My gut feeling is that R will make more of an impact in the presentation of graphics than any implementation in Excel. So even if a pate

Re: [R] Re: diamond graphs and patents

2003-08-28 Thread Ko-Kang Kevin Wang
I have been reading this "discussion" (or debate, depends on your point of view) with great interest in the last few days. On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, David Scott wrote: > My reaction when learning of a proposed patent on a new graph was: "oh > well, that's something I can forget about". Without a pat

Re: [R] Re: diamond graphs and patents

2003-08-27 Thread David Scott
My reaction when learning of a proposed patent on a new graph was: "oh well, that's something I can forget about". Without a patent, code would have been available in R in a very short period of time, the statistical community would have been able to play around with it, see how it worked on v

Re: [R] Re: diamond graphs and patents

2003-08-27 Thread Patrick Connolly
On Wed, 27-Aug-2003 at 01:40PM -0400, Alvaro Muñoz wrote: |> Drs. Harrell and O'Keefe, |> |> |> |> Thank you for your suggestions. |> |> Although it is at odds with your beliefs, University staff working |> on licensing and technology transfer believe that a patent may be a |> vehicle to achi

Re: [R] Re: diamond graphs

2003-08-27 Thread Ross Ihaka
Alvaro Muñoz wrote: Drs. Harrell and O'Keefe, Although it is at odds with your beliefs, University staff working on licensing and technology transfer believe that a patent may be a vehicle to achieve a wide use. The audience of the proposed methods would be the end users who are not sophisticated

Re: [R] Re: diamond graphs

2003-08-27 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:40:59 -0400 Alvaro Muñoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Drs. Harrell and O'Keefe, > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. > > > > Regarding your comments about the content of the paper, I respectfully > disagree that "categorizing continuous variables is a fundamental vi

[R] Re: diamond graphs

2003-08-27 Thread Alvaro Muñoz
Drs. Harrell and O'Keefe, Thank you for your suggestions. Regarding your comments about the content of the paper, I respectfully disagree that "categorizing continuous variables is a fundamental violation of statistical graphics," nor are you to assume that all categorizations are arbitrary.