Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-20 Thread Bjørn-Helge Mevik
I'd like to thank the developers in the Core Team for their great work! R has become an invaluable and indispensible tool for (at least) me, much thanks to the hard and good work of the Core Team. -- Bjørn-Helge Mevik __ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch maili

Re: Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-20 Thread Spencer Graves
Permit me to echo Bjørn-Helge Mevik's thanks. I've been telling people that R is rapidly becoming the platform of choice for new statistical algorithm development for many reasons. * First, it gives someone almost instant access to many of the leading international experts in s

Re : Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-20 Thread Naji
Some thoughts: * As it's free (no guarantee) and 'matrix oriented' (all the details can be accessed), R user has (sic) better control of what he's doing. In my opinion, R is a better learning tool than others * No doubt that the intangible asset of R is the R users and their commitment to share hel

Re: Re : Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-20 Thread roger bos
Even though R is free, that doesn't mean its not possible to support it financially. There is a provision for useRs to "join" the foundation for a very small annual fee. I stumbled on this a few months ago and immediately joined because I think I benefit tremendously from using R. Check out the

Re: Re : Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-20 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Naji wrote: Don't forget that universities have to train their students with the softwares companies are using. Not so. But companies have to hire the people universities teach (or non-graduates if they can find them and train those). As a result software companies give un

Re : Re : Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-21 Thread Naji
Pr. Ripley >> Don't forget that universities have to train their students with the >> softwares companies are using. Right 'have' is abusive Companies want to keep a certain continuity in their service/product. There's a kind of inertia switching from their core software (SAS, MATLAB or other) t

Re: Re : Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-21 Thread Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr
Adding a few more lines to this... > >>>Don't forget that universities have to train their students with the > >>>softwares companies are using. > > What do they use? This may change among companies and countries. If we go for the majority we would probably end up teaching only Excel - and F. Har

Re: Re : Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-21 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr wrote: Adding a few more lines to this... Don't forget that universities have to train their students with the softwares companies are using. What do they use? This may change among companies and countries. If we go for the majority we would probably end up teaching on

Re: Re : Re : Thanks! (Was: Re: [R] R-2.1.0 is released)

2005-04-21 Thread Uwe Ligges
Naji wrote: Pr. Ripley Don't forget that universities have to train their students with the softwares companies are using. Right 'have' is abusive Companies want to keep a certain continuity in their service/product. There's a kind of inertia switching from their core software (SAS, MATLAB or othe