Re: [R-sig-eco] Standardising and transformation of explanatory/independent/predictor variables for multiple regression analysis

2014-09-04 Thread SamiC
Thanks Scott, That does help to clarify things. So if a covariate is highly skewed, extreme values will be more influential. And this can be reduced through a transformation (which can be justified) or through other techniques (e.g. bootstrapping). Cheers Sam -- View this message in

Re: [R-sig-eco] Standardising and transformation of explanatory/independent/predictor variables for multiple regression analysis

2014-09-04 Thread Scott Foster
Hi again Sam, I think that you have it. Extreme values will have more influence, due to their placement in covariate space. This is often countered with transformation (of the covariates) but I tend to think that altering your data for the sake of the model is the wrong way around.

Re: [R-sig-eco] Standardising and transformation of explanatory/independent/predictor variables for multiple regression analysis

2014-09-04 Thread Chris Howden
The only time one might always consider using a transformation on a response is when it's a ratio. There are 2 reasons for this. Firstly, many methods will favour the part of the ratio that is above 1 since it is larger. And secondly ratios aren’t symmetric and are dependent on how we define it

[R-sig-eco] Standardising and transformation of explanatory/independent/predictor variables for multiple regression analysis

2014-09-03 Thread Samantha Cox
Dear R-sig-ecology, I have spent some time trawling the internet, and seem to come across slight conflicting advice regarding the standardisation and transformation of variables prior to multiple regression analysis (e.g. LM, LME/GLS, GLM, GLMM, GAM, GAMM). I searched the archives here and I

Re: [R-sig-eco] Standardising and transformation of explanatory/independent/predictor variables for multiple regression analysis

2014-09-03 Thread Scott Foster
Dear Sam, I hear your concern and I sympathise. The reason for the conflicting advice, in my opinion, is partly historical and partly due to academic heredity. When people first started doing statistical analyses, they didn't have computers and all calculations had to be done by hand. This,