Re: [R-sig-Geo] original coordinates of the redwood data?

2013-12-05 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Marcelino de la Cruz marcelino.delac...@upm.es wrote: .. The plot of the data published by Strauss (1975) was scanned and digitised by Sandra Pereira, University of Western Australia, 2002. So you can digitize yourself the original true coordinates from the

[R-sig-Geo] original coordinates of the redwood data?

2013-12-05 Thread Adrian Baddeley
Lee De Cola ldec...@comcast.net writes: does anyone know the original, true coordinates of the spatstat redwoodfull data? i can't find them in: Strauss, D. J. (1975). A Model for Clustering. Biometrika 62(2): 467-475. i think reporting spatial data in rescaled units is unscientific.

[R-sig-Geo] original coordinates of the redwood data?

2013-12-04 Thread ldecola
does anyone know the original, true coordinates of the spatstat redwoodfull data? i can't find them in: Strauss, D. J. (1975). A Model for Clustering. Biometrika 62(2): 467-475. i think reporting spatial data in rescaled units is unscientific. Lee De Cola, PhD, MCP. DATA to Insight

Re: [R-sig-Geo] original coordinates of the redwood data?

2013-12-04 Thread ldecola
] original coordinates of the redwood data? You can complaint directly to to David Strauss for their unscientific behaviour. :-p As ?redwoodfull says: The dataset redwoodfull contains the full point pattern of 195 trees. The window has been rescaled to the unit square. Its physical size

Re: [R-sig-Geo] original coordinates of the redwood data?

2013-12-04 Thread Rolf Turner
Some years ago I noticed that Strauss's seminal paper in Biometrika (vol. 62, No. 2, 1975, pp. 467 - 475) states that there are n = 77 points in region I. (See page 474, just below Figure 1.) However if one looks at the region I pattern in spatstat, e.g.: X - with(redwoodfull.extra,

Re: [R-sig-Geo] original coordinates of the redwood data?

2013-12-04 Thread ldecola
here's what i'll do: mult - 130 trees - ppp( mult * redwoodfull$x, mult * redwoodfull$y, c(0, mult), c(0, mult), unitname = c('meter', 'meters') ) it is unscientific to analyze empirical data in other than the original geographic units - how else can we speak meaningfully e.g. of