Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ive preordered the Radio...

2009-09-24 Thread andynormancx
richg;459645 Wrote: > > What's the score? Or are Amazon just trying to up the price from the > £153 of my pre-order? > The Radio is now up on Amazon for £149.99, so I wouldn't worry too much about your pre-order being cancelled ;) -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqu

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Turn off display??

2009-09-24 Thread ccrome2
peterw;461159 Wrote: > From "off" mode with a dark screen to playing an Internet Radio stream: > about one second. > > From truly off: like the Controller, it's more like 45 seconds to f > ully boot. I have an early hardware build, so that might be better in > the final build, but you'll general

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Turn off display??

2009-09-24 Thread peterw
audio53;461139 Wrote: > > Oh, another question. Typically, when the power button is turned on, > how long does it take for the Radio to start playing? > >From "off" mode with a dark screen to playing an Internet Radio stream: about one second. >From truly off: like the Controller, it's more l

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Turn off display??

2009-09-24 Thread radish
When it's "off off", it's obviously totally dark (there's no power). When it's in "squeezebox off" it uses a screensaver, one of which is "screen off" (just like the controller). It's really off if you use that too. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.AD

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the Manual ?

2009-09-24 Thread radish
Radio isn't officially out yet, I imagine the manual will be posted when that happens. There's no Touch manual either... -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Turn off display??

2009-09-24 Thread iPhone
audio53;461139 Wrote: > I will be using the Radio in the bedroom. Does the screen turn off > completely when the power button is turned off? > > Oh, another question. Typically, when the power button is turned on, > how long does it take for the Radio to start playing? > > Thanks. The Radio ha

[SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the Manual ?

2009-09-24 Thread Mnyb
Where is the Manual ? I'm looking at the documentation pages and I see no manual for radio ? All other products have a nice manual as an pdf. A complete and functioning product must have an comprehensive manual, I'm all for not having a paper copy as it is a waste resources, just put a note in t

[SlimDevices: Radio] Turn off display??

2009-09-24 Thread audio53
I will be using the Radio in the bedroom. Does the screen turn off completely when the power button is turned off? Oh, another question. Typically, when the power button is turned on, how long does it take for the Radio to start playing? Thanks. -- audio53 Regards, Bob FLAC->SB3 (wired)->PS

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-24 Thread Phil Leigh
andyg;461047 Wrote: > On Sep 24, 2009, at 1:21 PM, vw195 wrote: > > > > > Then there will be no retail CD in the box for the radio? > > We've never shipped retail CDs. Good - they are always out of date anyway! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-24 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 24, 2009, at 1:21 PM, vw195 wrote: > > Then there will be no retail CD in the box for the radio? We've never shipped retail CDs. ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-24 Thread vw195
Then there will be no retail CD in the box for the radio? -- vw195 vw195's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68123

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-24 Thread funkstar
vw195;460991 Wrote: > If the radio is going to be launched on 9/28, it seems to me there > should probably be a release build of 7.4 SC. If there is, I will go > ahead and install it, ie be prepared. Thanks for any feedback 7.4 will be released on Monday as well. -- funkstar my collection:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread eap
andyg;460988 Wrote: > Photo of the back. Cool. I'll definitely be buying now. -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread Dean Blackketter
That's exactly right, the LEDs are only on the Duet Receiver because it doesn't have a screen to show messages about connectivity. On Sep 24, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Kiwi wrote: > > eap;460962 Wrote: >> .I bet no one ever considered this issue at Logitech (since it >> appears that most people ru

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread Kiwi
eap;460962 Wrote: > .I bet no one ever considered this issue at Logitech (since it > appears that most people run these things wireless). However, wired is > always better, if you have the choice for any networked equipment. I would give the folks at Logitech the benefit of assuming they di

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-24 Thread vw195
If the radio is going to be launched on 9/28, it seems to me there should probably be a release build of 7.4 SC. If there is, I will go ahead and install it, ie be prepared. Thanks for any feedback -- vw195 vw195's Profi

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread pippin
Hint: There's a lot of things you can fix with duct tape. Ethernet lights on the receiver (or any other unit) is one of those... -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Pro

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread andyg
Photo of the back. +---+ |Filename: photo.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8164| +-

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, eap wrote: > > bpa;460978 Wrote: >> There are no LEDs on my SB3, Touch or Boom so I think Duet is the >> exception. > > Cool -- I hope you're right. Any logitech engineers out there? > Post a > closeup of the ethernet connection on the back of the radio please.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread eap
bpa;460978 Wrote: > There are no LEDs on my SB3, Touch or Boom so I think Duet is the > exception. Cool -- I hope you're right. Any logitech engineers out there? Post a closeup of the ethernet connection on the back of the radio please. -- eap ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread bpa
There are no LEDs on my SB3, Touch or Boom so I think Duet is the exception. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68258

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread eap
funkstar;460973 Wrote: > If you look at the gallery shots on this page (click the Radio top > right) > http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/products/squeezebox-radio.html > > you will see there are no LEDs in the ethernet connection on the back > of the Radio. > > If there was, this is not somethi

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread funkstar
If you look at the gallery shots on this page (click the Radio top right) http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/products/squeezebox-radio.html you will see there are no LEDs in the ethernet connection on the back of the Radio. If there was, this is not something that could be controlled by firmware.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread eap
bpa;460967 Wrote: > On my beta hardware, there is no LED on the ethernet connection on the > back of the Radio so there is no problem. Really? I thought that was an ethernet standard (i.e. required) -- are you sure they aren't there, but just not visible without the cable connected? -- eap -

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread radish
pic;460942 Wrote: > Do you use SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork ? > The test I did was with SC. I was planning on testing with SN as well but to be quite honest I could't find the "tune in url" function on the new beta SN site! -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread bpa
On my beta hardware, there is no LED on the ethernet connection on the back of the Radio so there is no problem. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.sl

[SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone Run The Radio Wired ? Lights in Back?

2009-09-24 Thread eap
I run my duet receiver wired and would want to run the Radio wired as well (my house is new construction and is pre-wired with ethernet runs in all the bedrooms, that homerun to my home office, where my router sits). My question is, with the lights off, do the lights from the Ethernet cable in th

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread bpa
pic;460942 Wrote: > > Do you use SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork ? > SqueezeCenter because 1. the main radio service I used use RealAudio and Flash/AAC both of which needed transcoding or SC support. 2. I do not use the additional music services such as Napster, Pandora etc. as they are not av

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread pic
radish;460818 Wrote: > Just tested it on the Radio - works fine. As I understand better how things work, I have more questions, sorry. Do you use SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork ? My question is if your Radio plays this stream by itself (if you use SN) or SC is doing some transcodig to "help"

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm, when Internet not available

2009-09-24 Thread funkstar
Ah, I suspected there would be a bug already, but I'm lazy and didn't search :) Added a comment referencing this thread. -- funkstar my collection: *1*x squeezebox radio *1*x squeezebox touch *1*x squeezebox boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver)

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm, when Internet not available

2009-09-24 Thread Mnyb
funkstar;460928 Wrote: > perhaps I'm just too used to using my mobile phone or my watch as an > alarm, but they usually just alarm for 30-60 seconds. > > you are right, it would just be a firmware change to make the backup > alarm noise play longer. i would guess this has been discussed > extens

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm, when Internet not available

2009-09-24 Thread funkstar
perhaps I'm just too used to using my mobile phone or my watch as an alarm, but they usually just alarm for 30-60 seconds. you are right, it would just be a firmware change to make the backup alarm noise play longer. i would guess this has been discussed extensively in the past though :) File a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm, when Internet not available

2009-09-24 Thread Mnyb
funkstar;460921 Wrote: > I don't know about the length of the alarm, but the basic functionality > is the same as the Boom at the moment. > > A standard alarm clock will usually only alarm for about 30-60 seconds. A normal clock radio would play the "buzzer" or alarm tone for at least 30 minute

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm, when Internet not available

2009-09-24 Thread funkstar
sander;460844 Wrote: > Will this functionality extend to the boom or will this be the same as > the boom? > > The current boom functionality is the not connected alarm plays a wav > file for one minute and then quits, which wasn't enough to wake me up > when my server crashed. I don't know abou

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread bpa
pic;460906 Wrote: > Very clear, thanks. > > btw, are you SB developer ? No - but I've maintained AlienBBC (RealAudio/RTSP and SMIL playlist) plugin and added AACplus support before 7.3 so I've worked my way through a lot of SC code. -- bpa

[SlimDevices: Radio] Best alarm clock ever!!!

2009-09-24 Thread Keymaster
I just wanted to pipe up quickly...although (especially with the battery pack and WiFi)the SB Radio is a super music player due to its portability, great sonics, killer interface, etc...I am mostly using mine as my alarm clock/bedside radio. I have gone through a dozen such devices in the last de

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread pic
bpa;460904 Wrote: > ASX, SMIL, M3U, RAM, PLS are all playlist formats - text files which > have playable URLs. > > > These are read aread and processed by Squeezenetwork or SqueezeCenter. > After processing - SC/SN will have created a playlist of one or more > playable URLs - I think SN/SC m

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread bpa
ASX, SMIL, M3U, RAM, PLS are all playlist formats - text files which have playable URLs. These are read aread and processed by Squeezenetwork or SqueezeCenter. After processing - SC/SN will have created a playlist of one or more playable URLs - I think SN/SC may have to do an initial connecti

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread pic
bpa;460894 Wrote: > Yes. Most of the common formats are supported. The most common problem > type is "mms". > > mms is a Microsoft format for WMA. Stations have a choice of > supporting mms and/or http as the transport protocol. A few have opted > for just mms and mms is not supported by S

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-24 Thread DiSNEYN
mparry;460696 Wrote: > Radio will be launched globally Sept 28! Thank you for a short but correct answer to my question. /Hans, Sweden. -- DiSNEYN DiSNEYN's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5070

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread bpa
> > This means that I need to investigate not only which codec is used, but > also which transport protocol is used by a radio to know if I will be > able to listen it using SB. Is it right ? > Yes. Most of the common formats are supported. The most common problem type is "mms". mms is a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread pic
bpa;460891 Wrote: > Internet radio have transport protocols used to transfer the audio > stream across the internet. The list implies support of the transport > protocols. > > For example - there are a few services which send Flac or WAV audio > streams but since the transport protocol is not s

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread bpa
Internet radio have transport protocols used to transfer the audio stream across the internet. The list implies support of the transport protocols. For example - there are a few services which send Flac or WAV audio streams but since the transport protocol is not supported or is non standard - F

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread pic
radish;460818 Wrote: > Just tested it on the Radio - works fine. OK. Many thanks, pic -- pic pic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthrea

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread pic
bpa;460803 Wrote: > That is a SoftSqueeze only problem as Softsqueeze can only play MP3 and > Flac natively. If you are using a non Windows based SC - install > mplayer and AlienBBC plugin and it will do WMA transcoding for > SOftsqueeze. Yes, it runs on Ubuntu, I will do what you suggest. Th

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] internet radio format support

2009-09-24 Thread pic
andyg;460743 Wrote: > Native codec support includes MP3, Vorbis, AAC, WMA, FLAC, PCM > (WAV/AIFF) I am very happy to hear this. I only do not understand very well what stated in Technical Specifications web page: Audio formats * MP3, FLAC, WAV, AIFF, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, Apple Lossless Intern