Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-22 Thread jef
toby10;497018 Wrote: > Logitech could simply decide that the costs to support MySB servers > throughout the world and server software development expenses are not > justified by hardware sales revenue. Spotlife, for example? Years after Logitech shut it down, people were still apparently wonderi

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-21 Thread davenva
Buy the radio! Even if Logitech throws in the towel next year, you'll have gotten $150 worth of enjoyment out of the thing by then (and it will likely still work). You'll experience the beginning of the model that will someday end over-the-air broadcast radio. Ignore the fact that people post c

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-19 Thread toby10
dial;496945 Wrote: > I genuinely think it's more significant than that. Companies routinely > go out of business. Studies have shown that company size is very weakly > correlated with likelihood of going out of business (de Guilmi, C; > Gallegati, M.; 2004, Physica A, Vol 334, pp.267-273). Com

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
snarlydwarf;496941 Wrote: > Wow that was neato. I've never seen output from apt-get before. > > I found all that to be very enlightening and not at all a waste of a > paste. > > I hear there is 'dpkg -l' or something that would be much less spammy, > yet include the relevant version number. B

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
toby10;496930 Wrote: > No, its just a basic design decision, and a consumers choice based on > what features are available. > I genuinely think it's more significant than that. Companies routinely go out of business. Studies have shown that company size is very weakly correlated with likel

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread snarlydwarf
dial;496938 Wrote: > My JRE was indeed old / broken. The automated upgrade from Ubuntu > jaunty to Ubuntu karmic apparently didn't upgrade sun-java6-bin, and > apt-get install --reinstall didn't do the trick, had to apt-get remove: > Wow that was neato. I've never seen output from apt-get bef

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
snarlydwarf;496922 Wrote: > Then you really should fix your JRE. My JRE was indeed old / broken. The automated upgrade from Ubuntu jaunty to Ubuntu karmic apparently didn't upgrade sun-java6-bin, and apt-get install --reinstall didn't do the trick, had to apt-get remove: $ aptitude show $(dpkg

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread pippin
toby10;496933 Wrote: > Radio Shack meets Roku. :) Not really. More like Radio Shack meets HTC or ASUS or Intel. Receiva makes all the technology as a white label product and OEMs package it up to nice products. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread toby10
pippin;496931 Wrote: > Pretty much all cheapo Internet Radios you'll find in your local CE > store will be based on Receiva. Radio Shack meets Roku. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.p

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread pippin
Pretty much all cheapo Internet Radios you'll find in your local CE store will be based on Receiva. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevic

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread toby10
dial;496918 Wrote: > .. > That's a response to an objection you made up yourself. > > I object to the fact that it's made artificially difficult to change > the server, not to the fact that a server is used. No, its just a basic design decision, and a consumers choice based on what feat

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread pippin
dial;496924 Wrote: > > That's good. It's just a shame it's not clearer from the website, etc. It is clear is you read SBSs license agreement, the stuff that comes with it or the beginners' guide in the Wiki: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/BeginnersGuide What do you expect? Lots of docum

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
pippin;496921 Wrote: > Less time than it takes us to only read all your questions. If you look at it from my point of view, that depends on the answer to the question I was asking. In addition: forums are useful to record answers to these questions, so that they don't need to be answered many t

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread snarlydwarf
dial;496920 Wrote: > > > I tried SoftSqueeze. As you say, it should work, but that did not > prevent it from not working :-) Then you really should fix your JRE. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.sli

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread pippin
dial;496918 Wrote: > That involves answering the question "how much time will task X take, so > that I may decide whether to do X" by doing X, which might not turn out > well. > Less time than it takes us to only read all your questions. > > I object to the fact that it's made artificially diff

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
snarlydwarf;496917 Wrote: > Oh, well, so the point of your post was not at all to get pre-purchase > comments from other users, but rather to waste my time responding to > your questions? > It was to provide answers for other people in the same boat, and to quell my curiosity. I've already tha

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
toby10;496914 Wrote: > Create a free www.MySqueezeBox.com account and see for yourself.:) > That involves answering the question "how much time will task X take, so that I may decide whether to do X" by doing X, which might not turn out well. > The problem is how do you cram in 20 differen

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread snarlydwarf
dial;496916 Wrote: > > I just did. But it was a Reciva radio. > Oh, well, so the point of your post was not at all to get pre-purchase comments from other users, but rather to waste my time responding to your questions? Next time, it would be nice if you posted "please don't use ten minutes

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
Thanks for your helpful answers. > I don't know why you believe that. Perhaps the lack of clear documentation had something to do with it? > > The odds of a multihundredbillion dollar company vanishing overnight is > pretty slim, though. > Is that so. > > I'd suggest you buy a Radio and tr

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread toby10
dial;496876 Wrote: > .. * If I want access to a "fairly comprehensive" set of radio > stations (say, similar to the list that Reciva offers), do I have to > install a whole bunch of "apps"? Do I have to jump through lots of web > registration hoops to do that? How does this compare to the s

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread snarlydwarf
dial;496884 Wrote: > > * Would it be feasible, technically and legally, for another company > or other organisation to set up in competition with mysqueezebox.com? Do > Logitech make this easy or difficult? SBS and mysqueezebox.com provide > non-identical functionality -- right? > > What I'm dri

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread toby10
dial;496876 Wrote: > * Would it be feasible, technically and legally, for another > company or other organisation to set up in competition with > mysqueezebox.com? Do Logitech make this easy or difficult? . Not likely, certainly not officially. But I'm sure they would be willing

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread snarlydwarf
dial;496876 Wrote: > > * ISTR from the one time I've seen an internet radio appliance used (a > Revo Pico, I think -- Reciva-based), the UI for browsing stations > involved navigating a shallow hierarchy of categories using a combined > knob + button. Is the SB UI for selecting stations the sam

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread toby10
dial;496884 Wrote: > > > Does SBS connect to mysqueezebox.com? Yes, SBS uses MySB in the background. That's why you must setup all Apps and Music Service logins on MySB, to be used by either SBS or connecting your player directly to MySB. SBS does everything MySB will do, and more, an

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
> * Would it be feasible, technically and legally, for another company or other organisation to set up in competition with mysqueezebox.com? Do Logitech make this easy or difficult? SBS and mysqueezebox.com provide non-identical functionality -- right? What I'm driving at here is that one couldn'

[SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites

2009-12-18 Thread dial
After reading some forum posts, scouring a pile of websites, hunting for SVN servers with client (appliance) code, and even looking at the docs, I still don't know the answers to some very basic questions: * ISTR from the one time I've seen an internet radio appliance used (a Revo Pico, I think -