[rails-oceania] Re: Ruby in Perth?

2008-11-19 Thread Sutto
I'm not sure on corporates using it but as the others have mentioned there is a decent-ish community over here. As much as it's a popularity contest, as well as those listed here (David, Matt, Myles, Gary and I) there are also a few more listed on Working with Rails - http://workingwithrails.com/h

[rails-oceania] Session and threads

2008-11-19 Thread Andrew Foster
Hi all, I'm experimenting with the Session class (http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/session/) to make some SSH calls from a RoR app. It's working fine only it leaves leftover threads (actually, bash processes) around. When I stop the web server (Mongrel) it says "Reaping threads for slow wor

[rails-oceania] [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Ben Askins
Hey Sydney Siders, I really enjoyed tonight's meetup, thanks everyone for presenting, participating, and heckling. Was very much fun indeed. Here's the slides from my talk on open-uri and hpricot http://www.slideshare.net/ben.askins/just-dont-moan-about-it-presentation ;) There are quite possibl

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Tim Lucas
On 20/11/2008, at 12:41 AM, Ben Askins wrote: > I really enjoyed tonight's meetup, thanks everyone for presenting, > participating, and heckling. Was very much fun indeed. > > Here's the slides from my talk on open-uri and hpricot > http://www.slideshare.net/ben.askins/just-dont-moan-about-it-pre

[rails-oceania] Re: Session and threads

2008-11-19 Thread Mikel Lindsaar
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Foster < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm experimenting with the Session class > (http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/session/) to make some SSH calls from > a RoR app. It's working fine only it leaves leftover threads (actually, > bash processes) around. > Doe

[rails-oceania] Melbourne Silicon Beach Drinks this Friday 21st Carlton Hotel CBD 6pm

2008-11-19 Thread Pieter
Hi Rubyists, Time for the next Melbourne Silicon Beach afterwork drinks again. The Carlton Hotel 193 Bourke St, Melbourne. Its a small part of the attempt to bring the Australian web, tech, new media, and startup community together. The last one went well and we need your help to keep the mome

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Jason Crane
I haz video, but the audio from last night was really ordinary :( I'll see if I can clean it up. J On 20/11/2008, at 12:50 AM, Tim Lucas wrote: > > On 20/11/2008, at 12:41 AM, Ben Askins wrote: > >> I really enjoyed tonight's meetup, thanks everyone for presenting, >> participating, and heckli

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Josh Price
I'd like to echo that. Last night's meetup was the best yet. The strict 5min lightning format worked *really* well and we managed to fit 10+ awesome talks in. Thanks to all the presenters and organisers! Cheers, Josh On 20/11/2008, at 12:41 AM, Ben Askins wrote: > > Hey Sydney Siders, > >

[rails-oceania] Soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Dave Newman
Hey Guys, great meetup last night. There were some awesome presentations including commodore 64 background slides and pamela anderson ascii art! Anyhoo, im gonna push my javascript test coverage tool up to github but haven't picked a name yet. It's currently called blanket, there have been suges

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Matt Allen
> > I'd like to echo that. Last night's meetup was the best yet. > It was definitely up there, that's for sure. So, I reckon there is a happy median for these talks, ones that drag on for ever tend to put the room to sleep and these short sharp ones were tops but I felt on a few there was a coupl

[rails-oceania] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Keith Pitty
Hi all, For the benefit of those organising future Railscamps, last night at the Sydney meetup I sought answers to a couple of questions about Railscamp 4. Here's what I was able to record as the rowdy audience threw responses at me: WHAT WENT WELL? * radar!!! * venue was awesome * cater

[rails-oceania] Re: Session and threads

2008-11-19 Thread Nathan de Vries
On 19/11/2008, at 9:40 PM, Andrew Foster wrote: > Does anyone know how I can clean these up as I go? Session#execute should be reaping its own threads (if it's not, that's a bug). If Session is left doing its thing for too long (greater than 60 seconds, I believe), it will be holding up the w

[rails-oceania] Re: Soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Nathan de Vries
While we're on the topic of code coverage...to whoever I was talking to about rcov, my definitions of C0/C1/C2 were incorrect, so if you'd like to read up on exactly what they mean I'd suggest you check out Mauricio Fernandez's description [1]. Cheers, -- Nathan de Vries [1] http://eigenc

[rails-oceania] Re: Session and threads

2008-11-19 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
I don't recall seeing Rails/Mongrel making decisions towards how long a thread should last. So I'd say the best way out of making sure you wrap in a terminator/timeout block any operation that *can* end up blocking forever. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Nathan de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

[rails-oceania] Re: Sydney Meetup, Wednesday November 19, 2008

2008-11-19 Thread chris h
Hi all, I'm the guy who gave the demo of simple Comet last night. A bloke named Adam asked if the code was available, so i've put it on my blog if he or anyone else is still interested. http://splinter.com.au/blog/?p=43 Cheers On Nov 19, 2:54 pm, chris h <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great, thank

[rails-oceania] Re: Session and threads

2008-11-19 Thread Nathan de Vries
On 20/11/2008, at 10:25 AM, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: > I don't recall seeing Rails/Mongrel making decisions towards how > long a thread should last. You might want to take a look at Mongrel#initialize then. In particular, the default timeout value of 60 seconds. When Mongrel receives a TERM s

[rails-oceania] Re: Session and threads

2008-11-19 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
>> I don't recall seeing Rails/Mongrel making decisions towards how >> long a thread should last. ... as in killing my requests that go over 60 seconds, or for that matter, any number of seconds. My understanding from the original question was that there were hanging processes sitting there becau

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Lachlan Hardy
> * better gitjour I'm working on it. Should have some goodies up on github as soon as catching up on work and life allows me to surface. Keep on eye of http://github.com/lachlanhardy/gitjour for the funk. (and, preferably, fix my nooby Ruby) > * 70 people too many I completely disagree. 70

[rails-oceania] Re: Ruby in Perth?

2008-11-19 Thread Matt
Hi guys, There's a couple of us a Colleagues ( www.colleagues-info.com ) doing virtually all our corporate web work on Rails. We are working on our core digital pen technology as well as a couple of big web sites in Rails. We still use J2EE but realistically we could probably avoid even that by u

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Andrew Grimm
I found the movies a bit distracting - at least with Urban Terror you can choose whether to participate in it or not. With regards to the wiki, one problem with the rails-based wiki is that I couldn't see any way to upload images, and it lacks preview functionality. We shouldn't reject mediawiki j

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Lachlan Hardy
> * backup guitar hero > > Also: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=NlMYWuGUZlM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Tim Lucas
On 20/11/2008, at 10:44 AM, Andrew Grimm wrote: > I was able to see from gitorious what projects there were, but there > wasn't any ability to say "My project has passed 1.0, download it > now!" did you jump on twitter? That I think should be where everyone announces their stuff, and then

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Bodaniel Jeanes
Also next time we shouldn't have annoying bots retweeting everything scrambled. It was so annoying I stopped using twitter. The first day or two it was really helpful and fun to see what people were doing, but then it just became noise. Otherwise I agree with everything Lachlan said... felt more l

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Tim Lucas
Yo yo. Bigs up all the SA peeps which made it happen, I had an awesome time. I've been talking about the number of people and I don't think that it was necessarily too many just that I have too many friends there now to collaborate and even get to have beers with them all, and also you got

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Ryan Bigg
For the twitter (or twetter) there wasn't an easy way for Linux'ers to jump on and post their messages, or was there? I couldn't see one on the site and the only way that seemed to be possible was to download the twitteriffic client for Mac. Lightning talks sound like a superb idea. Get to

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Bodaniel Jeanes
Donated. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Ryan Bigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the twitter (or twetter) there wasn't an easy way for Linux'ers to > jump on and post their messages, or was there? I couldn't see one on > the site and the only way that seemed to be possible was to download

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Lachlan Hardy
I guess I should make it clear that just because I don't think that 70 is too many, it doesn't mean that 150 would be cool. I definitely think we're reaching the upper bounds. Also, Lachie's points are 100%. If I'd thought of anything in my rant at the time, I hope I would have done it. But hindsi

[rails-oceania] was: soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Daniel
Don't want to hijack the thread - but what do people use for testing javascript these days? I got a little sick of jsunit with the test frame interface; so I ripped out the assertion code and put it into something simpler. -- Daniel Bush On Nov 20, 9:22 am, "Dave Newman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[rails-oceania] Re: was: soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
http://github.com/nathansobo/screw-unit/tree/master On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't want to hijack the thread - but what do people use for testing > javascript these days? > I got a little sick of jsunit with the test frame interface; so I > ripped out

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Nathan de Vries
On 20/11/2008, at 12:04 PM, Tim Lucas wrote: > Some more tools to help a room full of hackage would always be useful— > gitorious works but is a bit clunky, the web-based gitjour will be > great for discovery of projects etc and I'm sure there's a bunch of > other stuff we could all pitch in and b

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Dylan Fogarty-MacDonald
Hey, the web gitjour stuff is up on github: http://github.com/DylanFM/sup-gitjour/tree/master 2008/11/20 Nathan de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 20/11/2008, at 12:04 PM, Tim Lucas wrote: > > Some more tools to help a room full of hackage would always be useful— > > gitorious works but is a bi

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Lachie
:lachie http://smartbomb.com.au http://www.flickr.com/photos/lachie/ On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Nathan de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 20/11/2008, at 12:04 PM, Tim Lucas wrote: >> Some more tools to help a room full of hackage would always be useful— >> gitorious works but is a

[rails-oceania] Re: was: soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Daniel
On Nov 20, 1:51 pm, "Julio Cesar Ody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://github.com/nathansobo/screw-unit/tree/master > Looks interesting. Thanks. Dave, sorry - Should have changed the subject line. -- Daniel Bush --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this messa

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Anthony Richardson
I noticed that this RailsCamp had a lot more Linux users than the last one so getting these things working well across Mac and Linux would be awesome! Cheers, Anthony Richardson On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Nathan de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, someone mentioned that using Gi

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Lachlan Hardy
A bunch of Linux guys had it working. And a bunch didn't. Difficult to say why. It only took Linc and I 10 minutes to get gitjour running on the server (for DylanFM's awesome supgitjour) but Andrew and Mick spent days on theirs and never got it going :( --~--~-~--~~~---

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Adam Salter
Yeah, I definitely got the most out of the short talks this time around. But I agree that dedicated question time is good. I can't think of one talk last night where questions wouldn't have been necessary. (in fact for the comet demo in particular I was a bit miffed that there wasn't time

[rails-oceania] Re: was: soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Dave Newman
I like screw-unit, but it doesn't run in ie, which is an unfortunate requirement for me. We're using qunit which works pretty well. ~Dave On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 20, 1:51 pm, "Julio Cesar Ody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://github

[rails-oceania] Re: Soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Dave Newman
I'm thinking about jLove : ) ~Dave On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Josh Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave, > > Good chatting with you last night. > > Blanket is best name I can think of by far. Better than jcov/jscov which > came to mind. > > Cheers, > Josh > > > > On 20/11/2008, at 9:22

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Dave Newman
I think there should be more c# programming ~Dave On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Lachlan Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > A bunch of Linux guys had it working. And a bunch didn't. Difficult to say > why. It only took Linc and I 10 minutes to get gitjour running on the server > (for DylanFM's

[rails-oceania] Re: Soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread Bodaniel Jeanes
I like kitty litter lol. jDoona/joona doesn't translate outside of australia as the rest of the world calls them "comforters" Kitty Litter rocks, has LOL potential and comes with an awesome tag line. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Dave Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm thinking about jLo

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Bodaniel Jeanes
> I think there should be more c# programming I don't know whether to cry or laugh at that... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to rails

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Tim Lucas
On 20/11/2008, at 3:08 PM, Adam Salter wrote: > Yeah, > I definitely got the most out of the short talks this time around. But > I agree that dedicated question time is good. I can't think of one > talk last night where questions wouldn't have been necessary. (in fact > for the comet demo in part

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Ryan Bigg
Let's throw in some .NET and PHP too. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread Adam Salter
Works for me. Maybe less talks (5-8) and 20 mins for questions... On 20/11/2008, at 3:40 PM, Tim Lucas wrote: > > On 20/11/2008, at 3:08 PM, Adam Salter wrote: > >> Yeah, >> I definitely got the most out of the short talks this time around. >> But >> I agree that dedicated question time is goo

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Torm3nt
Aww now cmon guys, let's not be selective. Let's throw in some COBOL!! On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Ryan Bigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let's throw in some .NET and PHP too. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subsc

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Adam Salter
Ummm. Can we leave the PHP out? ... and I would love to hear more about Flex/actionscript on the frontend. On 20/11/2008, at 3:56 PM, Ryan Bigg wrote: > > > Let's throw in some .NET and PHP too. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because yo

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Ryan Bigg
Oh I know! CakePHP! Impostors are so much better than the Real Thing. - Ryan Bigg Freelancer http://frozenplague.net On 20/11/2008, at 3:28 PM, Adam Salter wrote: > > Ummm. > Can we leave the PHP out? > > ... and I would love to hear more about Flex/actionscript on the > frontend. > >

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Torm3nt
We shouldn't be too harsh on PHP guys, quite a few of us had PHP as a stepping stone ;) On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Ryan Bigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh I know! CakePHP! Impostors are so much better than the Real Thing. > - > Ryan Bigg > Freelancer > http://frozenplague.net > > >

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Alan Harper
Myself included. We should be harsh on PHP letting me easily write spaghetti code On 20/11/2008, at 3:14 PM, Torm3nt wrote: > We shouldn't be too harsh on PHP guys, quite a few of us had PHP as > a stepping stone ;) > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Ryan Bigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Torm3nt
Yes, let's blame everything else for our own inadequacies in development =P Let's also blame the government for letting us getting too drunked and place higher taxes on our alcohol, 'cos we all know that will work! =D On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Alan Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My

[rails-oceania] Re: [railscamp] Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Clifford Heath
On 20/11/2008, at 3:58 PM, Adam Salter wrote: > ... and I would love to hear more about Flex/actionscript on the > frontend. I've had some joy with Haxe as a way to write Flash to embed in a Rails frontend. The app hasn't gone public yet, but I'll let you know when it does. Haxe is a pretty

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Nigel Rausch
Big thanks from the Brisbane crew to Ryan and crew for organising this great event... As one of the people taking the proverbial reigns from Ryan and beginning the planning on Railscamp #5, please keep the great ideas/ suggestions coming We are listening! We look forward to welcoming all

[rails-oceania] Re: Railscamp 4: What worked well; how can we improve?

2008-11-19 Thread Lachlan Hardy
> Ps. Why is the only thing I was remembered for was washing up! > Don't worry, it's not. I just wanted to make sure you knew we appreciated it! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania"

[rails-oceania] Re: [rorosyd] Slides from my *cough* open-uri and hpricot talk

2008-11-19 Thread chris h
Hi, i'm the culprit behind that Comet demo. Any questions you can email me direct or just ask here if you want. Sorry about the lack of question time. That 5 mins sure goes fast! On Nov 20, 3:08 pm, Adam Salter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, > I definitely got the most out of the short talks

[rails-oceania] Re: was: soliciting names

2008-11-19 Thread George
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Dave Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like screw-unit, but it doesn't run in ie, which is an unfortunate > requirement for me. Have you tried any of the forks on github? [1], for instance, passed a simple test for me in IE 6, 7. [1] http://github.com/joseph