[rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-18 Thread wolfeidau
A friend of mine has been looking into cloud computing with the requirement being systems are locally hosted. He came up with this company http://www.cloudcentral.com.au which are based in Canberra, I believe he is using it to run a range of applications and is quite happy with the service. Mark W

[rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-18 Thread Ben Still
On Nov 17, 1:18 pm, Matthieu Stone wrote: > http://orionvm.com.auare building an Australian based high availability cloud > computing service. > That's interesting - does anyone else know of any Australian CDNs? There seem to be a lot of companies offering CDNs and Cloud services etc, but they

[rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-17 Thread glenn gillen
On Nov 17, 1:15 am, Bodaniel Jeanes wrote: > Yeah I completely agree. This seems like a security thing not a "omg all the > money is going outside australia" thing. I'd rather my important and private > information with big Australian corporations weren't hosted in Singapore or > elsewhere, to be

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Mike Bailey
> Our security folk expressed concern that Amazon data centre employees could > get access to our data; from what I read at http://aws.amazon.com/securityand > other pages, I think there's a far higher risk of one of *our* data > centre employees (or pretty well any tech-savvy employee for that ma

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Korny Sietsma
Of course, this particular concern only makes sense if you apply the same standards of security locally. We put some (not very sensitive) data on EC2 servers (in the US - spending more for Singapore servers doesn't make much sense unless you are doing web serving or something where latency is crit

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Ivan Vanderbyl
Thanks Matt I'll check them out. On 17/11/2010, at 1:18 PM, Matthieu Stone wrote: > http://orionvm.com.au are building an Australian based high availability > cloud computing service. > > I interviewed one of the founders, Sheng Yeo (here if your interested: > http://twistsydney.com/2010/11/08

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Matthieu Stone
http://orionvm.com.au are building an Australian based high availability cloud computing service. I interviewed one of the founders, Sheng Yeo (here if your interested: http://twistsydney.com/2010/11/08/ep-2-cloud-computing-with-orionvms-sheng-yeo/). He talks about how Data sovereignty is one of t

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
Yeah, and pat-down searches. Oh wait, that's not what we're talking about right? Carry on then! On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Clifford Heath wrote: > On 17/11/2010, at 12:07 PM, Anthony Richardson wrote: >> >> ... think it is sensible to require a bank to consider and seek >> approval befor

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Clifford Heath
On 17/11/2010, at 12:07 PM, Anthony Richardson wrote: ... think it is sensible to require a bank to consider and seek approval before doing something like putting massive amounts of banking information under the jurisdictional of a foreign government. Industrial espionage is more common than yo

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Bodaniel Jeanes
Even if AWS had a base in Australia, you'd need to make sure any EBS or S3 data (not to mention the rest of their data-related services) were never mirrored outside of Australia. Getting a written guarantee of that nature from Amazon would be an interesting adventure, I think. Bo [image: Bodaniel

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Ivan Vanderbyl
I develop applications for the finance industry and in order to avoid breaking license agreements with several government data providers (for Individual and Company credit reporting, business records and fraud prevention etc) we cannot host our applications outside of Australia, and some even re

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Clifford Heath
On 17/11/2010, at 11:56 AM, Bayan Khalili wrote: I didn't know that regulated institutions were so.. um.. regulated. If using cloud services are categorised as outsourcing, then would using any other hosted services (email, issue trackers, project management systems, etc) be included as well? H

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Bodaniel Jeanes
Yeah I completely agree. This seems like a security thing not a "omg all the money is going outside australia" thing. I'd rather my important and private information with big Australian corporations weren't hosted in Singapore or elsewhere, to be honest... [image: Bodaniel Jeanes] *Bodaniel Jeanes

Re: [rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Anthony Richardson
I think the email is clear on this "Regulated institutions are reminded that, under the prudential standards on outsourcing, they are required to consult with APRA prior to entering into any offshoring agreement involving a material business activity." I think this makes sense and when you have a

[rails-oceania] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Regulator warns Australia's finance industry on cloud risks]

2010-11-16 Thread Bayan Khalili
I didn't know that regulated institutions were so.. um.. regulated. If using cloud services are categorised as outsourcing, then would using any other hosted services (email, issue trackers, project management systems, etc) be included as well? How about sending a parcel overseas, or picking up t