Hey Will -
I live right by Chelsea Pier. I'll be looking for your bike on the
path... I have a white Bridgestone XO-2..
Going to the Riv store in SF in a week or so.. very excited...
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Seconded.
I recall recently seeing a posting of someone out riding their Rambouillet.
Amazing!
Shouldn't they be debating the benefits & aesthetics of stem options?
Cheers,
DE
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Mike wrote:
>
> Wow, this thread is almost at 100 responses. Ridiculous. Perhaps w
OK, be honest now, are you BSNYC?
How many miles is a ride around the island?
Cheers,
DE
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Will wrote:
>
> Happy holidays everyone. Since the perimeter of the island of
> Manhattan is now mostly bike paths, it's possible to circle the island
> by bike with minima
Jim,
Nice, I tried the mixte a few weeks ago, feel lighter than other.
What did GP say about the tubing choice?
Also, I myself prefer the plastic cable guide on the BB, which is new
for them.
Ron
On Dec 24, 6:17 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> Hey there -
>
> Had a chance to scoot by RBWHQ&L on Monda
Happy holidays everyone. Since the perimeter of the island of
Manhattan is now mostly bike paths, it's possible to circle the island
by bike with minimal street use. Best time of year? Now, when it's
cold outside, and the usual congestion of joggers/rollerbladers/
walkers are indoors. Best tool fo
Hey there -
Had a chance to scoot by RBWHQ&L on Monday, scoring one of the brand new
wool caps and getting a chance to ride both the 56 Sam Hillborne and the
Betty Foy.
Wrote it up here -
http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=316
Hope to get back over there for a longer Hillborne loop when the "
> I also don't think it's relevant
Looks are relevant when the discussion is Rivendell. Certainly Rivs
have a lot more going for them than their good looks, but looks is
part of the reason they have such a loyal following. Otherwise, a lot
more Riv owners would have bought a Surly.
> they can
"Stem Planing" You might be on the something...I wonder, with
insufficient fastener torque, if one could induce brake lever planing
or handlebar planing.
I love it!
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Wesley, the problem is with using a threadless stem on the threaded
portion of a steer tube. That would not be a secure connection, but it
would be a good way to start cutting threads into the clamp area of
the stem. If you mean using a threaded fork with the threaded part cut
off, then yes, peopl
Eric,
"Stem Planing" You might be on the something...I wonder, with
insufficient fastener torque, if one could induce brake lever planing
or handlebar planing.
I have an old Guerciotti Aluminum (I belive it was made by Alan) that
has a 1" threaded, all aluminum fork...think about this...the ste
With respect to your opinion, I don't think standard threadless stems
are ugly. I also don't think it's relevant.
I prefer threadless stems for the reasons I listed in my first post to
this thread: they make it easier to change stems and handlebars, and
they can be serviced or adjusted with just
Yes. On my Kogswell.
On Dec 20, 12:53 pm, Bruce wrote:
> What rim width does a red balloon, err, Hetre need? Will the Velocity
> Synergy 650B wheel handle it?
>
>
> From: RodC
>
> After riding Fatty Rumpkins and Hetres, 40+ mm, I just can't see me
> riding a
Wow, this thread is almost at 100 responses. Ridiculous. Perhaps what
is needed is a separate Google Groups forum 100% dedicated to the
threaded vs threadless debate.
I wonder what color the SH will be?
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Steve,
The appearance wasn't limited to the intrinsic appearance of the stem,
but also to its dimension and angle! I was limited to 135mm, forty
degree stems - uck! BTW, I like the bars level with the saddle.
I appreciated Patrick's call for a long collared stem (a la Bruce
Gordon?); but these w
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 12:03 -0800, Chris Halasz wrote:
> Tried a bike this past year with a threadless stem; it was the largest
> sized, and I could *not* find a production stem that brought the bars
> within a cm of saddle height (cm to zero difference) that wasn't
> stretched too far, or just in
On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 10:12 -0800, Atlantean wrote:
> Kogswell! Who knew? Thanks for the tip, Steve. That's exactly the sort
> of info I was hoping to find when I dove into this discussion. I just
> went to the Kogswell site, and could not find any forks for sale, so I
> guess the telephone is the
Curt Goodrich did the conversion, along with a few other braze-ons.
The paint was beat up before Curt took the torch to it, and it was
absolutely scorched afterward. I had it powdercoated all black at
Spectrum.
On Dec 24, 12:56 pm, "Doug Peterson" wrote:
> Jim:
>
> Who did the conversion for you
> In my considered opinion, Erik was being facetious.
I was trying to be as well. Unfortunately, I note my spelling is
rather poor.
On Dec 24, 1:37 pm, "PATRICK MOORE" wrote:
> In my considered opinion, Erik was being facetious.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
In my considered opinion, Erik was being facetious.
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> > They both work fine, and I still have no idea what the original 'problem'
> > even was. Ride your bike, and by all means if you need that extra .3 mph
> in
> > a sprint convert to thre
Thanks for the link. Guy is truly inspired. Even the southern tier
this time of the year can get dicey weather.
On Dec 24, 8:44 am, Sarah Gibson wrote:
> thought yall might enjoy this
>
> http://www.bikingforobama.com/
>
> even have a place for him stay
> ifn yr on the route
> peace
>
> well b
Doug:
Almost certain it is the AirCaddy Bill links above.
On Dec 24, 12:46 pm, "Doug Peterson" wrote:
> That sounds fantastic - please try to remember the name of the service &
> post.
>
> Packing & re-assembling the bike is always a challenge. I urge people to do
> it themselves so they kno
> I usually just leave the bike on the floor, straddle it, remove the
> top cap, loosen the stem and pull it off.
Admittedly a candidate for chief of mechanical doofosity, I have
managed to drop bikes doing less. I have a lovely folding Park stand
and prefer using it whenever I am taking things
> They both work fine, and I still have no idea what the original 'problem'
> even was. Ride your bike, and by all means if you need that extra .3 mph in
> a sprint convert to threadless--just don't overlook my concise introduction
> to the oft-overlooked reality of stem planing, ok?
Well, thank
Jim:
Who did the conversion for you? Did they insist on re-painting the entire
frame?
dougP
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That sounds fantastic - please try to remember the name of the service &
post.
Packing & re-assembling the bike is always a challenge. I urge people to do
it themselves so they know how to at the other end. But just popping it
into a box & picking up at the destination city is probably worth
Dear Rivendellians,
Clearly none have considered the benefits of planing as regards the
problematic of threaded stem flex. This slight, often imperceptible,
distortion under duress netted by a quill pays off greatly in the
subharmonic release of said stored energy and propells the rider through th
I usually just leave the bike on the floor, straddle it, remove the
top cap, loosen the stem and pull it off. You can hold the hadlebar in
one hand while moving spacers around with the other, and then put it
all back together. I usually use a similar procedure when swapping
stems, but you need to
Kogswell! Who knew? Thanks for the tip, Steve. That's exactly the sort
of info I was hoping to find when I dove into this discussion. I just
went to the Kogswell site, and could not find any forks for sale, so I
guess the telephone is their preferred marketing tool. I like Kogswell
and check their
On Dec 24, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Jeremy Till wrote:
> Frankly, i'm a surprised that this topic has brought up so many
> arguments on both sides. I always thought that 1" threaded headsets
> and quill stems were a Rivendell "thing," as integral to the identity
> of the bikes as steel and lugs (exce
> I'm a big guy, mostly ride fixed gear, and i like the idea of wrenching on a
> bar/
> stem that's firmly clamped to the outside of a circular steel steerer
> tube more than one that is literally wedged into place.
I have bikes with either set up. I always worry about the little
bolts holding
thought yall might enjoy this
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even have a place for him stay
ifn yr on the route
peace
well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
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Here's a link to some links regarding riding options in the Indpls/
central Indiana area.
http://circlecitybicycles.com/ccinbike.htm
Bill Evans
On Dec 23, 10:47 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
> I just shipped a bike to a UPS customer center near the customer's
> home. It was much chea
> Back to quill versus Aheadset: I think I'd choose an Aheadset for a new
> custom, with a custom stem so that I would not have to use spacers. Or
> perhaps custom made spacer to avoid the "rings on the neck" look.
Guess I am the opposite.
My first custom is threadless. I ultimately had a custo
Quoting Atlantean :
> One advantage of threadless forks, from a manufacturing and commercial
> point of view, is the fact that you only need to make one fork to fit
> a whole size run of frames. This makes things much easier and
> significantly less expensive. It would be pretty easy for Grant to
Anyone who has had to deal with a seriously stuck stem (or seatpost
for that matter) will not soon forget the ordeal. The ones that, as
Jobst would say "require machining" are particularly memorable. It
will make one very generous with the grease!
One advantage of threadless forks, from a manufac
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Jeremy Till wrote:
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>
> *It does help to have Jobst reinforcing my preference:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html
Huh. So The Great Jobst *does* think that the better connection between stem
and steerer is practically beneficial both for m
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:26 PM, John McMurry wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, here in the Northeast, that doesn't fly.
>
> If you ride in the rain, in the snow, in the mud, or dirt around here
> for several thousand a year, annual maintenance is necessary; unless
> you're willing to dispose of these parts a
Frankly, i'm a surprised that this topic has brought up so many
arguments on both sides. I always thought that 1" threaded headsets
and quill stems were a Rivendell "thing," as integral to the identity
of the bikes as steel and lugs (excepting the Legolas, of course). I
wouldn't ask GP to change
On Dec 24, 9:45 am, "PATRICK MOORE" wrote:
> Or, if you're really picky, use an NVO stem system:
>
> > >http://www.nvocomponents.com/
>
> > > -Jim G
>
> Gawd, that's **ugly**!!
He he! I would think the anodizing would wear off the, um, vertical
part there!
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> > http://www.nvocomponents.com/
> >
> > -Jim G
>
Gawd, that's **ugly**!!
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On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:53 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
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>> To say threadless stems are a solution in search of a problem is nonsense. I
>> don't care who said it. Whoever it was probably hates mountain bikes,
>> a common affliction among roadies.
>
> The quote is attributed to Richard Sachs. I d
I don't mean to contribute to thread drift, but I have an Albatross on
a tandem, and I love it. That bike has a 1-1/4" threaded fork, so the
quill stem is very beefy. 150mm of extension and 90 degrees worked out
very well and is quite stiff. The Albatross is the extra wide chromoly
version, and th
> Joel, use whatever you like. That's what I do. I am not trying to make
> you use a threadless fork, after all.
Well, I do use a threadless fork on one of my bikes ... I thought the
debate here is whether Riv should start offering a threadless option.
In my opinion, it would be more a change for
Quoting Atlantean :
>
> As stated, I *did* push the Cinelli stem all the way down, but the
> Albatross was still too high. Cutting the fork *might* have gotten the
> bar low enough, but there were other issues and if it did not work,
> then I would still have a shortened steer tube. They are quit
As stated, I *did* push the Cinelli stem all the way down, but the
Albatross was still too high. Cutting the fork *might* have gotten the
bar low enough, but there were other issues and if it did not work,
then I would still have a shortened steer tube. They are quite
difficult to lengthen. :)
In
If you don't have to turn the bars or remove the pedals, it will
necessarily be much larger than a standard bike box. I don't know the
exact size criteria, but there's usually a point where the box goes
from one size category to the next, and the price more or less
doubles. If you can pack it in a
Jim,
I agree in part. Taking the bike to your local bike shop to pack works
well. They have the boxes, protective packing material ,and the experience to
pack you bike and get it to your destination safely. They're going to do it
right because they have a relationship with you. The proble
Quoting Atlantean :
> Steve, I explained the limitations in my previous post. Possibly not
> very clearly. The Atlantis has an extra tall steer tube, accommodated
> by some spacers. I am glad I did not cut the fork, because I found
> handlebar bliss on my Atlantis with an old Bridgestone Moustach
John, the stem I was using with the Albatross was an old Cinelli "7"
stem, down as low as it would go. It actually looked pretty good, but
I could not get the grips level with the saddle without removing the
stock spacers and cutting the fork. Even then it might not have gotten
the job done. The c
That would be _www.aircaddy.com_ (http://www.aircaddy.com) . I used them
this summer and it was a very positive experience. I believed they charged me
$99 and they say the box will last for about 3 round trips. At that point, a
replacement box costs $39.
What's really nice is that you on
A good rule of thumb for tire width WRT to INSIDE Rim Width, IRW:
ROAD:
1.4 to 2/2.5 times IRW so for a rim with inside width of 17mm: Tires
of 24mm - 35/42mm or so. Brake and QR release will temper max tire
width choice for easy tire removal.
MTB
1.4-3 times IRW
The IRW of most rims will be
Joel, use whatever you like. That's what I do. I am not trying to make
you use a threadless fork, after all. Lots of people have managed to
work out the aesthetics somehow. For me the most important issue is
flex, and it will not go away no matter how lovely Nitto quill stems
may be. Also, there i
On Dec 24, 1:06 am, Atlantean
wrote:
> I'm not a fan of the 7 shaped stem, and I really really don't like the
> looks of track stems. A track stem and an Albatross bar? I don't think
> so.
In all seriousness, and in no way bruskly; if you don't like 7-shaped
stems and you don't like stems with e
On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Bill M. wrote:
> On Dec 23, 9:07 pm, John McMurry wrote:
>> On Dec 23, 8:18 pm, Atlantean
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I removed an Albatross bar from my Atlantis even though I liked it a
>>> lot, simply because I could not get it low enough!
>>
>> A stem like this stem ought
There is a service that makes a special bike box and ships Fedex store
to Fedex store in the lower 48. I think they are looking at expanding
over seas but have not got the numbers to work yet. Forget the name,
but I saw someone who used it last summer. The boxes are very well
designed. You do
> That whole process can get pretty fiddly, but then so can unwrapping
> bars and removing levers in order to try a different stem. With modern
> mountain bike stems, and increasingly common road setups, it's easy to
> swap between stems.
Fiddly and an aesthetic nightmare. Most (all? - not sure)
Quoting Atlantean :
>
> I'm not a fan of the 7 shaped stem,
But it lets you get the bars down every bit as low as you can get them
with a threadless stem of any persuasion, doesn't it?
> and I really really don't like the
> looks of track stems. A track stem and an Albatross bar? I don't thin
Quoting Atlantean :
> One thing that has not been mentioned is the fact that the typical Riv
> has a tall head tube, which lends itself well to a threadless fork.
> Check out the new 64cm Kogswell, for example:
>
> http://www.kogswell.com/siteBLOGGER.php
>
> I removed an Albatross bar from my Atl
Quoting PATRICK MOORE :
> http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529941/
>
> Gawd, that's even *pretty"!
It certainly is. And, like every other attractive threadless stem
I've ever seen, it lacks the one major advantage commonly associated
with threadless stems,
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