I'm 5'10" with one of the earlier hillbornes with a 58 effective tt, with
the bars level to the saddle i use a 100mm stem with compact bars.
anything longer would be too long. it's on the cusp. i'd get the 56. here's
it's current state.
https://plus.google.com/photos/103687965829407337476/album
Thanks for the welcome and kind words, Anne. The guys who did the video
were really great and I had a fantastic time making it.
I thought about getting a custom colour for the Betty Foy - I was leaning
toward that original Hillborne orange - but I've decided to just go with
the default colour
A bicycle chronology - how neat is that. Thanks for sharing it with us, Rex.
On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:44:29 PM UTC-7, Rex Kerr wrote:
>
> I suspect that most of us have had bad experiences when we first started
> out.
>
> In my university student days I used to ride a cheap department store
>
Hi there!
Been lurking a while enjoying the discussion. I'm going to be going to
look at a used Atlantis frame/fork tomorrow morning, reported to be a 64cm
and built for 700C wheels... looking at Riv's site it looks like that isn't
a standard size, at least anymore. My PBH is 92, 6' tall... m
I'm getting a Betty Foy. :-)
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:12:25 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Well, you are cycle chic for sure! Such a great video and a very inspiring
> story. You are going to LOVE that new Riv frame - which one, is it, by the
> way? God bless you as you learn about RA and how
I'd love to hear your thoughts on your black mountain. ???
Thx
Addison
Reno
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On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:
> Beyond this bike I have a Black Mtn Cycles Road bike coming and I just found
> a RB-1 I couldn't pass up. Just too much crossover to justify keepi
On 08/03/2013 07:23 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:
Beyond this bike I have a Black Mtn Cycles Road bike
coming and I just found a RB-1 I couldn't pass up. Just too much
crossover to justify keeping. It is an amazing bike and the frame
seems super super light. It certainl
Fwiw, I ride a 56, am 6ft tall and find the top tube a little stretched out
with drops. Depends on your riding style and bar preferences.
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While there are many books and training guides on how to ride a century, I
particularly enjoyed Marla Streb's Bicycling Magazine's Century Training
Program: 100 days to 100 miles.
While she was a professional racer, in the book she describes the plan she
created for her non-cyclist brother. In the
"What route were you planning on from Tustin? "
Likely take Irvine Center Dr to Barranca & past the Irvine Amtrak station.
There's a couple of ways thru the Saddleback Valley that roughly parallel
the tracks (always the path of least resistance) or Alicia Pkwy to Crown
Valley to the coast at M
Zack-
My gravity rack does not have to only rely on gravity--it rests against a
brick platform were a coal furnace used to live. I don't think I would
feel comfortable with it only resting on a hardwood floor. See what I mean
here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybvisits/9433613852/
We bu
Great story & thanks for the video. I've been to Vancouver a couple of
times & always enjoyed the city. Something tells me you're going to really
appreciate your Rivendell. Now comes the hard part: waiting for it to
arrive!
dougP
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walk
Now THAT is a wonderful story.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Cecily Walker wrote:
> Can I share my bike story? Maybe it'll serve as an introduction since I'm
> really new to the list. It'll be pretty long...
>
> I've always loved bicycles. I remember my very first "big girl's" bike - a
> red,
Beyond this bike I have a Black Mtn Cycles Road bike coming and I just
found a RB-1 I couldn't pass up. Just too much crossover to justify
keeping. It is an amazing bike and the frame seems super super light. It
certainly has nothing to do with the bike or quality as I never built it up
or ro
Cecily, I LOVE your video. That's what biking should be: just ride! I
hope you love your new Betty. What color will it be?
I know, guys are always talking about which derailleur the bike will
have, and which this, and which that, but me, I just let the bike tech
people put the bike together, and I
Well, you are cycle chic for sure! Such a great video and a very inspiring
story. You are going to LOVE that new Riv frame - which one, is it, by the way?
God bless you as you learn about RA and how to keep it at bay...
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With your PBH you are at the very bottom of the suggested sizing for the
58. The Hillborne is deceptive with it's sizing. My 52 feels as large if
not a little larger than my 54 Rambouillet. Given the choice of being in
the middle of a suggested sizing range or the bottom I would take the
mid
I'm thinking that a few mm one way or another just doesn't matter. Some will
say they notice. Some will say they don't. If you can get the inner ring of
your triple to clear then maybe it's all good.
Btw, who ever said chain stays are always symmetrical?
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I always trust Rivendell sizing, even on the sloping top tube models. Wait and
get the 58.
Cheers
Jason
On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:41 PM, cbone97 wrote:
> Hi bunch.
>
> Having a sale of my Polyvalent in the works, I'm allowing myself to start
> planning to buy a Sam and wondering whether to buy
I would call and talk with Grant. He guided me perfectly on my Hunqapillar.
By the charts I should have a size down from 62 (90cm PBH), but he assured
me the 62 was what I wanted. He was right. There is a personal touch to
their sizing that doesn't fit on charts. Trust them.
With abandon,
Patri
I don't know my PBH, but I too am 5'10 in socks with much of it in the
torso, and I found the 56 too long in the tt (mine had an effective tt
length of 59 c-c -- two cm too long for my taste). That's one comment, in
case it helps "situate" the size 56. I ride anything from a 57 to a 60 cm
c-c road
Hi bunch.
Having a sale of my Polyvalent in the works, I'm allowing myself to start
planning to buy a Sam and wondering whether to buy a web special 56 Sam or
hold out for the new 58. I plan to build it with a Dirt Drop stem and drop
bars (On One Midge).
My PBH is 87.5 and I'm 5'10.5". I hav
Can I share my bike story? Maybe it'll serve as an introduction since I'm
really new to the list. It'll be pretty long...
I've always loved bicycles. I remember my very first "big girl's" bike - a
red, white & blue Free Spirit girl's bike with a white banana seat and
streamers on the handlebars
I volunteer to host, northern Wisconsin or perhaps my ancestral homeland of
Upper Michigan. Dates are flexible, but I prefer late Sept for splendid Fall
color. Lots of northwoods adventure. A real possibility of encountering wolves
(they probably won't eat you). Probably more camping-centric tha
On 08/03/2013 05:12 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:
This size takes 650B wheels, that is correct. The larger sizes use 700C wheels.
I am in Central PA
Johnny,
Thank you for the speedy reply. Your bike is tempting, but I'm going
to wait for awhile before I bu
Hang in there!
I had 48 Noodles on my Ram, w/ a DuraAce stem that was a 120mm, which had me a
bit stretched out, and dint get quite as high as I liked; not bad, but But
it was the stem's creaking that motivated me to do something; I switched to a
110 Tallux stem, but while at it, I swapp
This size takes 650B wheels, that is correct. The larger sizes use 700C wheels.
I am in Central PA
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On 08/03/2013 04:49 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:
I found another bike that I wanted so I am thinking
about moving this project along. I thought I would see if anyone
here was interested. This is a brand new 52 Soma San Marcos.
Installed already is a nice silver sealed
Actually it's lager!
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> Also: I hope that the box contains the statutory Pale Ale?
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That's a pretty impressive front load; 15 lbs? 20 lbs? Doesn't that
>> amount make the bike har
I found another bike that I wanted so I am thinking about moving this
project along. I thought I would see if anyone here was interested. This
is a brand new 52 Soma San Marcos. Installed already is a nice silver
sealed bearing Tange headset. I also installed a Tange bottom bracket
(110) bu
If I go for the medium Wald, I would definitely use some sort of front rack
to stabilize it. Regarding the total weight though, I would think that a
Crate with aluminum struts would add about the same amount of weight as a
Mark's mini + Wald medium, don't you think?
On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1
Actually I'll say since getting the Big Front Rack, I've been able to carry
impressive front loads up high without a huge effect on handling. Before, I
had a Mark's rack with the double strut mod, and it was pretty competent,
but I would get the shimmy when getting out of the saddle to climb, etc.
Ah ha!
Thank you. This must mean that the problem lies in seeing my own posts.
Thanks, now I am getting someplace. :)
Jason
On Aug 3, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> I see both, Jason.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:58:30 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:
>>
Rivendell is out of them right now. I'm in no hurry, but thought I'd throw
it out there:
Did anyone try and not like these bars? If so, let me know (off-list) and
I will gladly take them off your hands and put them under mine.
Thanks and cheers-
Mike in Htfd, CT
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I see both, Jason.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:58:30 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:
>
> I just sent out two emails. One from my computer browser and another from
> my phone app. My next step is to wait and see if they show up as threads
> in the group.
>
> ... nothing yet. Goo
So the theory is that low q is ranked higher than having one's legs/feet/ankles
rotating in different circles? That doesn't sit right with me but i am
probably over thinking it. Rivendell's advocacy of pedaling free would address
this issue but I don't care for it. It doesn't bother me on my c
I just sent out two emails. One from my computer browser and another from
my phone app. My next step is to wait and see if they show up as threads
in the group.
... nothing yet. Google Groups interface posts instantly.
Jason,
SF,CA
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 3:05:03 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:
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This is just a test to help me troubleshoot access to the group - sent via
iphone app
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Thanks for the assistance Patrick(s). I have email access via phone. It
just happens that I If i send an email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
from either Gmail's webmail interface or my phone the post does not appear,
nor can I reply to the group from my phone or browser. Same
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My wife on her Betty uses a Mark's mini with a medium Wald basket and it works
fine for the light loads she rides with. I on the other hand have the same
basket but attached to a Gomah porteur rack. This works extremely well for me
and I can carry quite a bit. My bike is not a Riv so handling mi
>
> So I did 25 miles home from work. Rained the whole way, but good training
> for rain riding.
>
Alba Sam. Bolt upright. Fun. Slow for safety. Had to be patient. Had a
great time.
I hope to go for a 35 mile ride next weekend, increasing every week up to
62 or 75 before the century, if the
I'm no help, but a smart aleck. Asymetric should be a palindrome just for
the wondrous irony. Asymemysa.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:12:07 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:
>
> I was giving my commuter bike CBO a quick check over and noticed that the
> crankset sits asymetric to the f
And if the "Patrick Tag Team Support" doesn't help, ain't nuttin' gonna
help! Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:05:03 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:
>
> Hello group,
>
> The only way that I have ever been able to post to this group is through
> the the google groups home page. Is
Just make sure the email address you are sending from is the address under
which you are registered to the group. Then you can send email to the group
from any device you want.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:05:03 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:
>
> Hello group,
>
> The only way that I
It's my experience that a stable front platform beats basket struts hands down.
I've no empirical proof of that, just my own experience. :-)
I generally ride with 7-15 pounds up front without trouble on a regular basis.
I'd be okay up to 20 lbs in a pinch but at that point would definitely add
AFAIK, the reason is to get as small a Q as possible while allowing
sufficient clearance for the stays and proper chainline. I think this was
particularly popular in the old days for triples -- the right stuck out
further to accommodate proper chain line. I could lose ~5 mm on my XD2 if I
could get
On my iPhone 3 something, you go to Settings, mail (etc), to "add account".
That takes you to a menu where Gmail, Yahoo, etc, and "Other" are offered.
Add name, email address, and password and Bobs yer uncle. I've got five
Gmail accounts working with the iPhone.
Patrick "if I can figure it out ...
I was giving my commuter bike CBO a quick check over and noticed that the
crankset sits asymetric to the frame. It has never bothered me but my
question is - aside from cranks that are made offset so an asymetrical BB
actually aligns them symetrically - what is the purpose of asymetrical
BBs?
Hello group,
The only way that I have ever been able to post to this group is through
the the google groups home page. Is there a confirmed way to set things up
which allows posting through gmail - through the Iphone mail app?
I can read posts just fine and send emails just fine but when I t
Done!
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:
> I picked this up off eBay to build up as a commuter/cruiser but then found
> something better so I want to pass it along to a list member.
>
> If someone here could please crosspost this to the iBob list I would
> appreciate it.
No more than 1,000 miles on it, all in dry weather and on pavement -- this
one from the Fargo's road wheelset.
I had the hub bearings lubed and adjusted before the wheelbuild to prevent
overtight and dry bearings from wearing it out prematurely, as scuttlebutt
at the time (~2 years ago) had them d
Mike,
The earlier I would think the better.
David, thanks for the extra info on the single track. I'm sold especially
when you attached smiles, but I'm an easy sell:-)
On Aug 3, 2013 1:09 PM, "Mike Schiller" wrote:
> or Irvine at 349pm if that's better.
>
> ~mike
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or Irvine at 349pm if that's better.
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maybe I should throw on the big knobbies just in case?
What route were you planning on from Tustin? I'm thinking I would train up
Friday if I go.The 1st afternoon Metrolink from Oceanside arrives in Tustin
at 356pm so that would work.
I would ride home to Carlsbad on Saturday.
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I know there has to be one of these around here somewhere. :)
On Monday, June 24, 2013 10:57:18 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I am looking for a set of Soba Handlebars. I am not sure what actual
> sizes they came in but I am looking for 42 or 44. Anyone?
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No Tools has minimal overall elevation gain. Lots of little rollers
over/around/through the different gullies coming down from the hills.
Rideable with any sort of tire or bike, just depends on how fast you
want to go. I'd say at most 2 hrs out and back. Don't know the
distance, I Just Ride it. :-)
The restaurant on the pier is a little ways away from camp (as opposed
to Adele's), but is a great place to eat and quite reasonable for
breakfast. Lots of options!
On 8/3/13, hsmitham wrote:
> Agreed. So this is what I have:
>
> 9 riders total
> 4 are definite shows: Doug, Evan, Curtis & Me ridi
I picked this up off eBay to build up as a commuter/cruiser but then found
something better so I want to pass it along to a list member.
If someone here could please crosspost this to the iBob list I would
appreciate it.
The frame has been powder coated and then never built up, no headset or
Robert: that is interesting: a stable platform makes a front basket much
less likely to affect handling? All my Newsboy and slightly smaller
experiments were without racks, just using the basket struts.
I'm curious since, IMO, a big, front-mounted container is the easiest way
to deal with things l
32 miles is "long" for me, too, but I tend to ride (a) fixed and (2)
energetically (though this is entirely relative to my ability, which is not
great). A 34 mile gravel ride two weeks ago (Fargo, geared) felt good
except for twinges in my left knee, but did leave me tired for two days
afterward --
Agreed. So this is what I have:
9 riders total
4 are definite shows: Doug, Evan, Curtis & Me riding from Irvine.
5 are maybe's have to work or rearrange schedules Tom Virgil, David Estes,
Jim Warren, Mitch Browne and Mike Shiller.
Tom needs to rearrange his schedule, David is working and may nee
I see you are using a Wald with the strut attachments. I've never much cared
for that arrangement as the basket does seem to move side to side a bit. I
always attach my baskets directly to a front rack - usually the Nitto
mini-front and in the past (and future I'm sure) on the now discontinued
Patrick,
Really good article thanks for sharing this, I echo what Ron said, this
information needs to get out to the general public.
I used to think as cyclists we needed to keep right and not impede traffic,
effectively appeasing automobile drivers and creating goodwill for
cyclists...I rode
Okay, I'll have to get off work a bit early, but think I can pull it
off! Worst case scenario is I meet you in San Clemente.
On 8/3/13, dougP wrote:
> I'd start from Irvine no later than 4 PM.
>
> dougP
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 10:24:49 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> I think we can shoot fo
I had a similar experience on my Riv:
http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0092009/photos/sumehra/5629443174/
Fully loaded with groceries... "Dicey" doesn't even begin to describe the
handling.
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On 08/03/2013 12:54 PM, Michael wrote:
I wonder if that "counts" as a long ride for this weekend or not.
For century training purposes, it does not.
I am sure that a 36 mile ride all at once is a lot different than
being a split round trip commute.
A split round trip commute would count a
>
> I have upped my commute milage a smidge so far. Just a few miles a day.
>
>
>
Did a 25 mile ride last weekend. Fun ride. No problems.
Todays round trip commute hopefully will be 32 miles. It was 16miles to
work this morning. But I might push for 20 on the way home, making it 36
round tr
You and your family look great. I loved your story that kicked this off
and you seem to have hit a heartstring among our folks that ride the bikes
we do and their bike shop experiences. My daughter got into this thing
with a Ruby and burned out after about three years. She has been eying my
*One* more: the reason for asking about the handling is that I tried large
Wald baskets a few years ago, not on Rivendells but on old Schwinns, and
with any load more than a few lbs, the handling became very dicey -- and I
was riding only 1/2 mile rt, though among cars. I gave up baskets because
of
That's a pretty impressive front load; 15 lbs? 20 lbs? Doesn't that amount
make the bike hard to handle in traffic, given Rivendell's signature
medium-to-high-trail geometry?
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Christopher Chen wrote:
> The "medium" basket is quite useful, especially on a stable pl
Also: I hope that the box contains the statutory Pale Ale?
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> That's a pretty impressive front load; 15 lbs? 20 lbs? Doesn't that amount
> make the bike hard to handle in traffic, given Rivendell's signature
> medium-to-high-trail geometry?
>
The "medium" basket is quite useful, especially on a stable platform:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9411592963/in/photostream/
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:11 AM, SMP wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> I now understand your rationale and concern. I cannot imagine how I would
> give the crate 'break-a
I'd start from Irvine no later than 4 PM.
dougP
On Friday, August 2, 2013 10:24:49 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> I think we can shoot for 4 pm or so. Lets get some feedback on depart
> time. If Jim can make it then it needs to be later. Jim what time will work
> for you or do you want to opt
Hi Tom,
I now understand your rationale and concern. I cannot imagine how I would
give the crate 'break-away' functionality, so I am seriously considering
going with the Wald medium basket instead. Anyway, from my experience,
things sold on the Rivendell site just seem to work with minimal fu
Thanks Deacon, though the sheer beauty in which you and your family
bike-camp is awe inspiring. I can see why you live there.
~Hugh
Hugh
Sunland, Ca
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> I am in awe at the response you Westcoasters get on these things.
> Beautiful! Enjoy!
>
Thanks. That is the one problem, so far, with Stan's -- having to monitor
the drying. I use it in tubes, so at worst it will mean replacing a pair
every 3 months or so, but at the rate I was getting flats before Stan's,
that is considerably less than the cost in patches that I was using.
FWIW, a s
* I bought or traded them from someone else so they may not be
chronologically new, and they may have been mounted and ridden briefly. But
they *look* new and I have not mounted them.
$60 + actual shipping. Shipping won't be more than the $15 Priority Large
flat rate box and perhaps less.
These s
something else we have this time of year - fresh peaches at roadside stands
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 9:22:21 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> they're easy to pack- apples are good, too, but not a lot of calories -
> we've hauled small watermelons before, which are a joy - a habit we
> developed ka
they're easy to pack- apples are good, too, but not a lot of calories -
we've hauled small watermelons before, which are a joy - a habit we
developed kayaking the coastal marshes in the Texas summer. But our last
ride was a 2300' climb, so the power bars were well-received. Glad I
wasn't haul
Powerbars? Blech! I saw an argument for being fat adapted.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:38:21 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> certainly an argument for power bars
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 5:27:44 PM UTC-5, Rex Kerr wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Bitonal
certainly an argument for power bars
On Friday, August 2, 2013 5:27:44 PM UTC-5, Rex Kerr wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Bitonal >wrote:
>
>> Also resist the urge to stop for Mexican while doing this...save it for
>> the destination.
>
>
> Haha... reminds me of a ride I did years
I am in awe at the response you Westcoasters get on these things.
Beautiful! Enjoy!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:12:14 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> SoCal Rivesters,
>
> I was thinking of a S240 for Friday the 23rd at San Mateo Campground near
> San Onofre State Beach. Fo
I'm humbled by your words, Ian. Thank you. It's Catholic mysticism rather
than zen -- a spirituality that delves into Christ incarnate in the clay of
all creation.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 1:53:55 AM UTC-6, IanA wrote:
>
> I just want to say that whenever you post, Patr
Rex, I'm dig the chronology/evolution of your bikes over the years on
flickr.You can see where you began homing in on good fit with the
Nishiki, then the 520 (awesome touring and camping pics!), and finally
arrived at a perfect fit on the AHH. Nice Schwinn Voyageur too.
On Friday, Aug
Anne, I will second what D. Patrick wrote regarding the washboard & riding
technique. My Atlantis & I have spent considerable time on the washboards
in Colorado & Arizona as well as on the cobblestones in Tacoma, Washington.
I will say that I find it much easier to find a good riding rhythm on the
Unfortunately, most of the women I see riding in my area are just copying the
carbon boys in equipment, style, and even bad manners. Some even seem to be
trying to one up them (overcompensating?). When it comes to cycling, simply
put, there's not enough dilly-dallying or lollygagging by either g
I just want to say that whenever you post, Patrick, I am always excited to
read what you have to say. The integrity you bring to your words and
experience is almost tangible for the reader. Your words below seem to
integrate the personal energy of the designer and the builder into the
bicycle
Mike,
That ECR looks interesting. You may have stumbled me into another bike, as
I was thinking of building up my old Salsa or Trek 850 into a strictly
bike-camping rig but knowing Surly it would probably be easier to just
plunk down the cash for this beasty.
~Hugh
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