[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread ascpgh
Currently I have a set of Continental Gatorskins, labeled 32 in width but measure 29mm, on Velocity Synergy rims on my Rambouillet with hammered Honjos without rubbing. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:31:24 PM UTC-5, bo richardson wrote: i have gotten noise and

[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
The Ram brochures advertised 32 mm tires with fenders and I remember GP writing that Jack Brown's will not fit with fenders. I also remember one poster who was able to rig the fenders to make it work. With hongo fenders my Ram maxis out at 30 mm actual and I run Grand Bois Cerf at 29MM. I

[RBW] Re: Bags and Racks for Sale

2014-11-17 Thread Tom M
Sale pending on small saddle bag. --Tom On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:18:41 PM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Nigel Smythe tweed front bag, good condition, with some wear on the underside, $100 Mark's rack, used, $100 Nigel Smythe canvas saddle bag; this was actually made the wrong size, so Riv

[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Gary
I've got a blue ram and 32 paselas fit easily with sks fenders (45mm I think) On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:31:24 PM UTC-5, bo richardson wrote: i have gotten noise and rubbing with both vo metal and sks fenders and jack brown tires on my 54 Rambouillet. i will try different tires with

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Kurt Manley
Panaracer firecross 700x45 BG Rock and Road Soma Cazadero 29x1.75 Smart Sam (If it ever becomes available again) Vee Rubber 12 and Kenda Small block 8 are all good tire choices for your existing frame and plenty capable off road. Have fun! On Sunday, November 16, 2014 5:14:45 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Surlyprof
I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly recommend!). My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Jayme Frye
I really like the grip from fiveten's (http://fiveten.com/) Stealth rubber soles. I ride the heck out of a pair of Drit Bag low. I only wish they made a shoe that looked a little less like a skate shoe or early '90s tennis shoe. Jayme On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:17:16 AM UTC-6, Surlyprof

[RBW] Re: Flats and Hetres

2014-11-17 Thread Johan Larsson
Copied from another thread: On my previous bike with 32 mm Continental Contact tires with a puncture protection layer I got maybe 1-2 punctures every year. Upon weekly inspection I used to pry out many small pieces of glass from the tires, that the puncture protection had stopped. Using 25 mm

[RBW] Monday Video

2014-11-17 Thread Eric Norris
Took Mr. Riv Road out for a ride on the American River Parkway yesterday, and shot this video: http://youtu.be/KjWcabsDn_4 http://youtu.be/KjWcabsDn_4 Enjoy! —Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy --

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
The underlying issue here is cushioned and/or supportive shoes weaken our feet and make them dumber. The solution is growing a stronger foot through no cushioning and no support. All a stiffer shoe accomplishes is keeping your foot unnecessarily weak. I ride in ZemGear shoes and love them. No

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Eric Norris
Ah, the great shoe debate. Runners have it too, and the pendulum over there is currently swinging away from “minimalist” shoes and back to heavy padding: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article3517617.html

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Ron Mc
I've ridden long hard miles without foot pain on both grip kings and VP001 in Merrell Proterra Sport shoes. I paid retail for mine, and would do it again, though they're beginning to pop up with discounted prices around the net. I usually ride the platform pedals centered on my arch, though

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Ron Mc
it's a question of putting energy into the pedal vs. putting energy into straining your arch. No pendulum involved. On Monday, November 17, 2014 10:41:46 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: Ah, the great shoe debate. Runners have it too, and the pendulum over there is currently swinging away

RE: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1 on the Chromes – love ‘em. Pretty good looking, too From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Mc Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:42 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin

[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B68, Huppe/hoop, Baggins Banana Bag, Wool Bag liner

2014-11-17 Thread Dave Johnston
The Hoop and Banana Bag have been sold. -Dave J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Ron Mc
Pudge, I have ice-skate feet - 13 narrow. The Chrome's fit them well, and they go great inside toe clips, but they run narrow and I wouldn't recommend them to someone with wide feet. As far as the Merrell Proterras, they have great arch support, and a wide platform - they give you room to

RE: [RBW] best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Bo: I've got two NIP pairs of Challenge tires that might be perfect for you: (1) a NIP pair of Challenge Eroica tires -- nominal 30mm, a little less in practice, according to Jan -- that are the big brother of the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix that was the fastest rolling tire in one of Jan's tests

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread David Spranger
Teva Cranks for me. David Charlotte, NC On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17:16 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote: I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly recommend!). My feet sometimes ache

Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Anne Paulson
I love my Fivetens. They're very sticky-- Fiveten started out making climbing shoes, where grippiness is vital. Plus, they're stiff enough for biking, but bendy enough for the hike-a-biking that I end up doing quite a bit of. On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
True, Eric, but none of what you say changes the fact that cushioned, supportive shoes weaken the feet. That is proven fact. Science, unlike the market, is not consensus based. The debate (not in the market, but in the actual science) is how to best help people strengthen their feet and

[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Bruce Curry
I have 33.3 green Jack Browns with 45 Velo orange stainless fenders on my 64 ram. Very tight and took a lot of wrestling plus a hacksaw to the darima bolt but works. The new 2 clamp vo's rattle much less than the older single clamp design. If I had a do-over I would try the 50mm Berthouds.

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Eric Norris
I’m sorry, but I didn’t put forth anything other than a link to an article that I recently read in the local paper, and my observation that there is an ongoing debate among runners about the right type of shoe. I’m not a podiatrist … I don’t even play one on TV. —Eric N campyonly...@me.com

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Williams
I don't wear special biking shoes I just use whatever I am wearing. That said, I have worn my Keen Newport H20 sandals for long (50 mile plus) rides with no issues whatsoever. For; that matter, my Birkenstock's seem to also work well. Pick something with a wide toe pocket, you don't want to

[RBW] Re: Bags and Racks for Sale

2014-11-17 Thread Tom M
Small bag sold. On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:41:35 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Here are more accessible photos: On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:47:06 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Sale pending on small saddle bag. --Tom On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:18:41 PM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Nigel Smythe

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
My coworker trains (running) mostly with minimalist shoes or barefoot, and then uses support cush shoes for events. He just did a 100-miler (!), finishing in just over 18 hours. I suspect he and I are of different species. I still love old reliable Adidas Samba when I'm riding with

Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
True story: FiveTen is located down the street from me. Unfortunately they don't have much of an outlet or such. On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:26:34 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: I love my Fivetens. They're very sticky-- Fiveten started out making climbing shoes, where grippiness is vital.

Re: [RBW] best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Really like offerings from Challenge. Had a bit of a hassle mounting them at first, but they have become some of my go-to tires. On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:19:00 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: Bo: I've got two NIP pairs of Challenge tires that might be perfect for you: (1) a NIP pair of

[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread iamkeith
Two other considerations I haven't seen mentioned, that you might already be aware of: - Toe clip overlap is likely to be pretty severe, if you actually manage to fit fenders over anything bigger than a 28. I have SKS fenders and Roughy Toughies on my 60cm Ram, but find that I need to snug

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Neil
I'm a huge fan of plain ol' running shoes with the Thin Gripsters. Terrific grip, let my feet breath, and never give it a second thought. Asics GT-2000 are my faves, but that's just me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Chen
the portland kids have a few opinions about footwear On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Neil neil.h.do...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a huge fan of plain ol' running shoes with the Thin Gripsters. Terrific grip, let my feet breath, and never give it a second thought. Asics GT-2000 are my faves, but

Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Aaron Young
Actually I think the Portland Kids have only one opinion and it's chukka. Good to hear other opinions and options exist though. :) Aaron only a little embarrassed to admit I ride in chukkas Young The Dalles, OR On Monday, November 17, 2014, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: the portland kids

[RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Dan A
I use Merrell Moab Ventilator shoes with VP vice pedals and the combo works well for me. Dan Abelson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback Rollcall

2014-11-17 Thread franklyn
I thought seriously about doing it in 2015, but I absolutely have to be at work on the start date, so I have to miss it again this year. Though i could do it by myself, but joining the group is a big part of the fun. Franklyn Berkeley, CA On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:27:44 PM UTC-8, AaronY

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Tire savers are meant to be positioned a mm or 2 above the tire. This can be done even with the typical out-of-round of most tires. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: I don't use tire wipers http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_wipers_700.html any longer,

Re: [RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Also, 35 mm (ie, too narrow) SKS's fit fine over 30 mm (actual) Parigi Roubaix. Wider fenders would allow more clearance. On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: 35 mm (labeled) Kojaks. 58 cm Ram. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:03 PM, lungimsam

Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

2014-11-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
I agree with Tim. It's just as presumptuous to expect unracers to be into cyclocross as it is to expect them to be into randonneuring, or extended loaded touring, or even S24Os. It's a harmless presumption, but it's a presumption. If there's one thing that unracers seem to have in common is

[RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

2014-11-17 Thread David Banzer
Aaron, I don't have any to sell, but do have a suggestion if you can't track any down in time. I'd suggest using the Wald 867 as a placeholder. The grip section is short, but a couple wine corks in the ends helped me and allowed cork grips to be used without trimming them down, with just brake

Re: [RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

2014-11-17 Thread Aaron Young
Thanks, David. I'll look into it. Thanks, Aaron On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron, I don't have any to sell, but do have a suggestion if you can't track any down in time. I'd suggest using the Wald 867 as a placeholder. The grip section is

RE: [RBW] WTB Medium Sackville Shopsack Bag in Olive

2014-11-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Kendall: I checked, and the one I have is a Large, not a Medium. You’re welcome to it at the same price, or I’ll refund your PayPal payment. Sorry! Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kendallspower Sent: Tuesday, November 11,

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Marc Irwin
You might look at Chrome shoes. They make several models without cleats for biking. I have two pair, they wear like iron. Marc On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17:16 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote: I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with either a set of MKS Grip

[RBW] FS: Saddles, seatposts and tires

2014-11-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Folks: Trying hard to avoid selling my Atlantis, so I'm digging deep into the parts bin for stuff I'm not going to use anytime soon. Here's the saddle, seatpost and tires installment; I tried to price these to move, but if you feel the price is too high, make an offer. Please reply off-list.

[RBW] WTB: Chromo Bosco - 58cm

2014-11-17 Thread Aaron Young
I'm still looking for the big daddy Bull Moose Bosco, but if someone has a chromo-bosco that is 58cm wide I'd be interested in that as well. Thanks, Aaron Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: WTB: Chromo Bosco - 58cm

2014-11-17 Thread Aaron Young
Make that 55cm. On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still looking for the big daddy Bull Moose Bosco, but if someone has a chromo-bosco that is 58cm wide I'd be interested in that as well. Thanks, Aaron Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-17 Thread Bill M.
You think weddings are expensive? Try divorce! No, I really don't recommend that YOU try divorce, just take my word for it. It's expensive. Better to get it right the first time. Mazeltov! Bill Much happier the second time around in Stockton, CA On Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:43:02 PM

[RBW] FS: Saddles, seatposts and tires

2014-11-17 Thread justinaugust
I'll take the Paul seat post. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike S
Yes, I appreciate all the input and my answer to the question of how fast? would be that speed isn't really my concern. My main goal is to push the Hillborne to the limits of what it is capable of and see how it fares, prior to dropping $2000+ on a new bike when 95% of what I'd want to do can

[RBW] struggling with my B-17's

2014-11-17 Thread Don Compton
I have been having the usual saddle problems with my B-17's. After longterm breakin, the hump makes long rides impossible for me. I finally found a solution, the Selle Anatomica. It just works for me. At 2 weeks from 63yo, I just can't stand any saddle discomfort anymore. The Anatomica has

[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Surlyprof
Thanks for all the feedback. I, too, usually wear whatever gets me past a No Shirt, No Shoes, No Dice policy when riding around town. However, my wildly high arches seem to demand some support during the longer rides. Insoles help but a couple pairs of the Chrome shoes looked interesting and

[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Arthur Lewy
Green Ramb, SKS fenders, 45mm 700x32 Paselas (actual width 31mm) and 700x32 Marathon Supremes (actual width 30mm) each provide reasonable clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2014-11-17 Thread Old Oly
It's on my list for next season. I'm trying to recruit a couple of buddies but no luck so far. I'd most likely take Amtrak from Olympia to K-Falls. If time and energy permit I'd like to continue north via USFS roads on the shoulder of Adams and tie into Hiway 12 near Randle/Packwood. Timing

[RBW] struggling with my B-17's

2014-11-17 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm glad you found a solution that works for you, Don. Saddle pain ruins the ride, that's for sure. What model Anatomical are you using? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread BSWP
With size 15 feet, choices are kinda limited. I have bespoke hiking boots and walking shoes (cobbler Dan Asay out of Bishop, CA), but for bicycling on platform shoes (now with velcro retention straps) I have found best results with Mizuno shot-putting shoes. Flat treadless soles, minimal rise

[RBW] Re: Monday Video

2014-11-17 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
That has been a part of my daily commute since the early 90's, I've never seen another Riv. Matt On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:00:39 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: Took Mr. Riv Road out for a ride on the American River Parkway yesterday, and shot this video: http://youtu.be/KjWcabsDn_4

Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Mike S
I swear by the New Balance Minimus 20V3. They are super lightweight, breathable, comfortable and even stylish enough. The only issue is the durability can be a bit of an issue with some pairs, as the sole likes to separate from the toe area. New Balance has replaced an early-deteriorating pair

Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
+1 on the Samba's. Nike makes a decent indoor soccer shoe also and that's what I'm currently using. I have to confess that Red Wing work boots have been all time favorite comfort shoe. But I've never considered them for cycling. I might have to look into Chris Chen's Chukka's recommendation.

[RBW] Re: struggling with my B-17's

2014-11-17 Thread Don Compton
I am using an old Titanio X on my Hampsten with a 72deg sta. I ordered their new X' saddle for my Rex. I bought the Titanio X a few years ago and just didn't feel right on it. But as we age , things change. I am able to adjust my saddle back up where it should be and have NO discomfort in the

[RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread stonehog
Stiff sole: FiveTen Spitfire (heavy) or Ascent (light). Favorite for running/walking/biking with a minimalist bent are Evolve Cruzers (thx Amit!). I have 3 pairs - I like em that much. Brian Hanson Seattle WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

2014-11-17 Thread Jan Heine
I am sorry if my post offended some people, or if it sounded like I suggested that you _should_ like cyclocross _racing_. My intention simply was only to point out that cyclocross is out there for those who feel so inclined, but not to suggest that you should like it (or anything else, at that

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike S
Patrick Moore, evading the ever-present, quasi-adverb so, in ABQ, NM You salty dog! On Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:13:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Can the Sam Hill take a 50 mm tire? Mine was (IIRC) a 2010 model, and I doubt it would fit a tire so wide. *IF* it takes such a width, my

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike Schiller
I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires. Certainly 45's. BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims. As far as another bike... there is the used market. I've seen used Fargos in the price range of that Jamis. ~mike -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike S
Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are doomed. I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the 622-47 Mondial might be an ideal choice for my purpose. I think beefed out Ogre is in my future when I'm no longer enduring my vow of poverty (grad

[RBW] Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Philip Williamson
It sounds like your decision has been made. I'd probably make the same choice, and ride my Quickbeam with 40mm knobbies. I think volume trumps knobs, though. As far as groovy bikes in large sizes go, the Singular Gryphon is nice. Rigid, drop bar bike, fits 2.4 tires. The XL is big. Philip

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike S
I also ponder if the 622-50 (listed) Schwalbe Almotion will fit a Sam. I know their tires are usually ~2mm narrower than the label in that size range, and a helpful fellow at BBH said that someone at RBW does run 50's on a Sam. Then again, as our fallen brother Lance A. is reputed to have

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Chen
Wait, I don't understand why you don't just try a pair. Yours is the 650B sam right? On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are doomed. I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Chen
Vee Rubber makes a 650B x 1.95 tire too. Cazadero is still my pick tho. On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I also ponder if the 622-50 (listed) Schwalbe Almotion will fit a Sam. I know their tires are usually ~2mm narrower than the label in that size range,

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike S
I'm on 700C wheels and they currently have studded tires entrenched for the duration. I also order my Schwalbe rubber from a German retailer, so it takes some commitment. The Cazaderos do sound great too, especially if I could keep my ultrawide Berthoud fenders on with them. On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Chen
Oh! In that case check out the Panaracer Fire XC FIRE CROSS Cyclo-crossr The FireCross is based on the award winning Fire XC Pro tread. Designed and tweaked for wide clearance cross frames and all 29” applications. Super aggressive and confidence inspiring. Check your frame clearance to make