Re: [RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

Sounds like everyone is a winner with this!!! On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:35 PM, René Sterental wrote: > Funny you should say. We went for a ride this afternoon and I told him > about my thoughts regarding him, his Tallboy and the Homer as we were > riding. He heard me, then

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

Funny you should say. We went for a ride this afternoon and I told him about my thoughts regarding him, his Tallboy and the Homer as we were riding. He heard me, then responded that he understood and that he preferred to keep the Homer long term and sell the Tallboy. He literally expressed that

[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

Hey friends, A few quality bike goods up for your viewing and shopping pleasure: 1) Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, 58cm wide. These came off my Clem a month ago. They have a couple hundred easy Km's on them, essentially brand new. The only visible blemishes are where the grips live, a couple

Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

Erik Nohlin (doesn't ride riv, but hangs with people that do, I think) posted about doing an SF to SAC journey. https://www.instagram.com/p/BCCIrSQS_Ss/ "We're riding from SF to SAC for NAHBS. 08.15 ferry from Ferry Building. Stop for liquid lunch at Heretic and hydration at Bikedog. Chill - No

Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

I’m planning to be at the show Saturday. Let me know where and when the Riv event will be. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On Feb 21, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Jeremy Till wrote: > > Bump. Who's coming to NAHBS? I'm organizing a

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

I might be free. Wrestling depends on where or not I make it. Manny On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 7:49:43 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: > > Bump. Who's coming to NAHBS? I'm organizing a little git together for > Riv/iBOB folks on Saturday evening. > > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

Bump. Who's coming to NAHBS? I'm organizing a little git together for Riv/iBOB folks on Saturday evening. On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:18:11 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: > > Hey Folks- > > Just bought my tickets for NAHBS, definitely getting excited about this > event! As a resident

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

Patrick, Teaching doesn't seem to pay that great in any field (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/opinion/01eggers.html?_r=0). That said, I do have a fun and interesting job when you get past the bureaucracy and paperwork. Getting to explore topics like this and passing what I discover on to

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

I think you'll be really happy with your upcoming Rex! I know many people that have moved from Rivendells to low-trail "rando" bikes, but no of none that moved in the opposite direction. It sounds like your son would be able to use your Homer at some poing, maybe don't let that one go too quickly

[RBW] Re: FS: 65cm Homer Hilsen

I'm going to do as a couple of you suggested and investigate how I can responsibly ship the bike given my current situation. I'm moving in a week, and all of the tools I've used to ship bikes in the past are in storage. Perhaps I'll see if the folks at RBW might be able to pack and ship the

[RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

At temperatures that low, the pour point of the lubricant would start to matter. Phil Tenacious Oil is probably molasses at -40. I can't find detailed specs for Tri Flow, but the MSDS says its flash point is pretty low (170 degrees), indicating a fair portion of it is pretty light oil so it

Re: [RBW] Re: suspicious Cheviot on Bay Area CL

I'm in complete shock that I was able to buy this bike today. I hope RBW isn't too bummed that a discounted employee bike didnt stick with the employee. Rest assured I've been grinning like a little kid cruising on this dreamy cheviot. Absolutely gorgeous and awesome bike! -- You received

[RBW] Re: FS: 65cm Homer Hilsen

Thank you, Patrick. I appreciate the thoughts and prayers. Dave On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 5:55:37 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > That is a beautiful Homer! But for higher priorities, I'd be all over this > for long remote fire road rides. My thoughts and prayers for you in your >

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

Patrick wrote: "if I could spend the same on just a quarter of things, but have those things top quality, made locally, and meet my needs without compromise, I'd be happier with what I have." Yep! I imagine that most people on this list like the idea of products that work well, look good, last

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Sam Hillborne Complete Build

Sale pending... On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 8:20:27 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: > > Whoops - fenders are Velo Orange, not Honjo. Sorry -- total wishful > thinking / Freudian slip on my part. > > On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 3:55:44 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: >> >> Selling a complete Sam

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Sam Hillborne Complete Build

Whoops - fenders are Velo Orange, not Honjo. Sorry -- total wishful thinking / Freudian slip on my part. On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 3:55:44 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: > > Selling a complete Sam build - $1,500. > > Pictures are here: >

[RBW] Re: FS/T: 59 AHH

DO you have a price in mind? Just my size. On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 5:56:45 PM UTC-7, Dave S wrote: > > Complete Bike as seen here: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff1.htm > > Would trade for 57cm AHH or Roadeo Frame or bike. Serious buyers please > PM. > -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Reach and extension for stems at RBW

NITTO stems that are shaped like a backwards number seven (Technomics, Talluxes, and Pearls, etc.) are measured like this: 1. Lay stem on its side on a table. 2. Measure from center of quill (on the vertical quill shaft from the point where the stem bolt passes through the vertical quill) to

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

You have an interesting job; hope it pays well, too. Somewhat of an aside, but not unrelated: I have a small (1253 sf) house which I share occasionally with a 14 year old daughter (say, 1/3 of the year). I am the type who hates clutter, and who throws things out much too readily. Yet I am

Re: [RBW] "Bit-o-Everything" Winter Ride

Wow. Awesome! On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > It was in the 20's the whole ride. A bit of everything in this ride, which > is part of what makes it so fun. Crashing through frozen mud puddles is a > blast! Some good climbing (without ice or snow

[RBW] wtb Brown Acorn handlebar bag

Apparently Ron at Acorn has changed the handlebar bag design. My buddy wants the old style in brown (Ranger tan), is happy with weathered but not worn. If you're willing to let one go, please contact me by pm, and I can blast off paypal. Thanks for looking !! -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

Patrick, I've designed trains, lift trucks, amusement parks, housewares, office supplies, electronics, shoes, cars (interiors mostly)... all sorts of things. The concept of "perceived value" has never sat well with me either and I have witnessed it first hand. I think that is one reason I

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Sam Hillborne Complete Build

pm sent joe kelly columbus ohio On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 3:55:44 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote: > > Selling a complete Sam build - $1,500. > > Pictures are here: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/stephendm/albums/72157664785138301 > > I'm located in Baltimore. I can really only do local

Re: [RBW] Great deal in New Mexico (65cm Homer)

I've tried to contact the guy several times, provided phone, email, offered cash, etc but never heard back. I travel frequently and could arrange a local pickup but I think all my correspondence is probably ending up in his junk email... It's a shame because I and others would buy this bike in

Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

We had a wonderful ride today on the lower Salado Creek greenway. Chasing my buddy and his college-age daughter on their tandem. 20 fast miles (15.7 mph) without a vehicle and only 3 pedestrians. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Reach and extension for stems at RBW

This one is like the Wetmore one but is down right now, said to be being improved. They have some other tools as well : http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Reach and extension for stems at RBW

The wonderful Alex Wetmore interactive stem web page is now gone , but fortunately here is one similar to it, not as great but you get the idea : http://ttbikefit.com/stemcalc.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Reach and extension for stems at RBW

Correct! On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 1:31 PM, BSWP wrote: > Ah, so an 8cm Nitto Lugged stem will be 8cm from the center of the quill > to the center of the handlebar clamp, as measured through the center of the > stem extension. Not 8cm perpendicular to center of quill. Thanks!

[RBW] Re: Reach and extension for stems at RBW

Ah, so an 8cm Nitto Lugged stem will be 8cm from the center of the quill to the center of the handlebar clamp, as measured through the center of the stem extension. Not 8cm perpendicular to center of quill. Thanks! - Andrew On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 11:22:18 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Sam Hillborne Complete Build

I forgot to mention that it has Pitlocks for front and rear wheels and the seat post. The pics were taken with a quick release skewer on the rear wheel, but I just pulled the rear Pitlock skewer out of the bike toolbox and will put it on the bike. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] S24O overnight camping in Angel Island on April 3-4

I've talked my son into doing an overnight camping ride in Angel Island on April 3-4, during his Spring Break. We did it once, several years ago when I had the Bombadil and it was a fun adventure. At that time my oldest daughter also came. There is little loaded riding, from the ferry dock to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

@Cyclotourist: Yes, for all practical purposes I have the perfect trio of Rivendell bikes. There is, however, room for improvement, both personal and practical on my bike quiver. Yes, I can only justify it emotionally, but were it not for our emotions, we wouldn't have the relationship we have

[RBW] FS 56cm Sam Hillborne Complete Build

Selling a complete Sam build - $1,500. Pictures are here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stephendm/albums/72157664785138301 I'm located in Baltimore. I can really only do local pickup, as I a) don't have a car and b) am hesitant to ship a used bike that is this expensive -- I'd rather the

[RBW] "Bit-o-Everything" Winter Ride

It was in the 20's the whole ride. A bit of everything in this ride, which is part of what makes it so fun. Crashing through frozen mud puddles is a blast! Some good climbing (without ice or snow pack) on roads, remote dirt roads, snow packed trail descent and climb and a mostly frozen

[RBW] Re: Reach and extension for stems at RBW

The Nitto Dirt Drop 80mm is basically equivalent to a Nitto 70mm "7" shaped stem if both set to the exact same height. Attached is a screenshot from the Alex stem calculator tool that no longer works.

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

I think you're referring to the Compass Cycle Promenade that I had on the Betty a while back, which does look like a mini Bosco. The width at the ends is 415mm. https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/handlebars/promenade/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Lungimsam

Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Don't let the bastards wear you down. End of quote. Niceness is all very well, but confronting assholes with their assholery is not only a matter of personal virtue, but a civic duty. Good for you for making it plain that cyclists won't put up with that sort of shit. On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 7:45

Re: [RBW] Reach and extension for stems at RBW

For the regular L shaped Nitto stems that RBW sells, since when installed the extension is practically horizontal, the reach and extension will match. For the Dirt Drop stems angled upwards, there was a post several years ago with finely done calculations to establish their true reach. You should

[RBW] FS - Paul, Thompson, White Industries, Berthoud, Phil, Surly

Some parts need to move on to new homes... prices do not include shipping Paul Mini-Moto's (one bikes worth - front/back), Black - $150 Thompson Elite Zero Setback Seatpost, silver - $50 White Industries Eno Crankset (175mm) with three (single speed) chain rings, 2x 34, 1x 36 - $175 27 1/4

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

John -- what exactly do you design? When I took my MBA courses some 18 years ago, one of the big buzzwords was "perception of value" -- you want to convince customers that you are providing "value," so that they will give you money. I thought it strange that they emphasized "perception" and not

[RBW] Re: Wald's all around

A case of baskets! Grin. They all look great! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

I always love hearing 'bout the adventure! Whatever you decide, keep on having fun! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 9:10:16 PM UTC-7, René wrote: > > One of the benefits of downsizing in both number of bikes and body weight, > is that you can refocus on the bikes

Re: [RBW] Great deal in New Mexico (65cm Homer)

Huge discount due to no headbadge? The AHH headbadge is so nice, that almost seems to make sense. I think the Homer headbadge was the first of the awesome ones that Riv started getting made in 2007 or (or maybe late '06) and that we've been seeing ever since. On Feb 21, 2016, at 11:22 AM,

Re: [RBW] Great deal in New Mexico (65cm Homer)

I wonder if that belongs to someone I used to know, a big man for sure (notorious for taking a track bike up into the Santa Monica hills 35 years ago without brakes and crashing). Glad it's not in ABQ and that it's not a 58. On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Belopsky

[RBW] Great deal in New Mexico (65cm Homer)

*http://lascruces.craigslist.org/bik/5452242886.html* $875 homer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Reach and extension for stems at RBW

The standard measurement for stem length is the actual number from center of quill (fork for threadless) to center of clamp. No website that I'm familiar with lists a virtual reach number. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

This is great! Thanks everyone for your thoughtful responses. I feared that the idea of how, or if, we derive a sense of meaning from a product or a company may be too abstract. This is something I have been wrestling with for a while now and I’m thrilled to see how others are responding

Re: [RBW] FS: 65cm Homer Hilsen

close, but I think I really need the 67. On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM, David Craig wrote: > Hey, Folks. > > Haven't posted for quite awhile. I've been on a medically prompted hiatus > from cycling for the past couple of years. The wife and I will be hitting > the

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

While on the subject of bikes vs. cars, here's a bit of news from today's Lansing (MI) State Journal. It's encouraging, in that the bike rider won the case, but discouraging that a STATE POLICE trooper didn't know the law about bicyclists' rights. "An avid bicyclist fought — and won — a $200

[RBW] Reach and extension for stems at RBW

Does anyone know how the stem sizes Riv lists correspond to actual reach and extension? I want to try a stem with less forward reach, and the descriptions don't indicate how this is measured, or if the sizes listed are for horizontal reach or absolute extension. This link is useful, even if

[RBW] Wald's all around

Multiple projects have been converging since late fall last year and I've actually got the majority of my and my wife's bikes up and running simultaneously. As I was moving bikes around in the garage I realized I needed to share a photo of the four Wald 137 equipped bikes, from left to

[RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

That GB bar looks like a mini bosco. Whats the width? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Deacon, I'm pretty much the only bicycle commuter in my little neck of the woods here in southwest Missouri. I very rarely see another adult riding a bicycle in any circumstance. The roads I ride are either two lane asphalt/chip seal or gravel. Shoulders? Ha! Anyway, I'd estimate 95% of

[RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

> > The AHH has always been one of my favorite Rivendell models, although I've > never owned one. Someday... > Great post and great photos of all your bikes. I hope to fiddle my way to the ideal mixup of parts on a couple of my bikes this year. It's a game of Pin the Tail on the Donkey, hide

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Well over 99% of drivers are going to respond well to all we do. The blinkies are polite for all drivers, but are especially useful to alter the dim-witted ones. For the much less than 1% means drivers, our only hope is an escape plan. My friend rides in the broken glass and storm drain

[RBW] FS: 60cm Bombadil Complete

Price $2300 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Patrick, As part of a longer family trip this summer, we drove our car from Wichita, KS to Alomogordo, NM on US 54 a two lane highway much of the way. I had to brake and prepare for evasive action several times when other cars were passing me or passing on coming vehicles when it was not safe

[RBW] Re: FS: 65cm Homer Hilsen

I'd buy it if shipping was a possibility. I don't suppose any listers could assist with this? David Chicago On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 6:52:41 PM UTC-6, David Craig wrote: > > Dropping the price to $1300. > > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 1:48:59 PM UTC-8, David Craig wrote: >> >> Hey,

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Deac, I also take the lane, and move to the right when it's safe to pass On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:03:22 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Thanks all! > > To be clear: taking the lane works wonders. That's the point that leads to > my question: > > -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

as do many of us here On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 8:57:11 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > Do you live and ride in an open-carry state? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Ron, No offense taken. In your situation it was good that you were in the lead. I was thinking more of blind curves and hills with distracted drivers who are on top of cyclists before they know it. In your case and Patrick's case of drivers passing and cutting in, it makes sense to have an

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Thanks all! To be clear: taking the lane works wonders. That's the point that leads to my question: -- I take the lane (not for a short while, for miles, as there is no shoulder) -- Cars coming up behind move one lane over to pass, (almost) every time. It's working brilliantly this past year!

Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

On 02/21/2016 08:14 AM, Ron Mc wrote: There are also flat-mean rednecks out here who resent the weekend city invasion, and think driving dangerously around bikes is cute. One day a p/u driver was honking at my daughter behind me on a blind bluff climb and when he passed me in the very

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

if he had sent my daughter over the cliff, I would have hunted him down, house to house if necessary On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 8:36:17 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > of you know no offense, Erl, but the order was correct with my teenage > daughter - after he passed her, I was the rider he

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

of you know no offense, Erl, but the order was correct with my teenage daughter - after he passed her, I was the rider he chose to terrorize further. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Ron, I think I see a new line of Sackville bags: the hog-leg! :) Deacon, Some great tips already have been offered that I employ including hand gestures to get cars to slow and wait as well as wearing bright colors and using blinky lights. One other thing I do is to festoon my bike and bags with

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

and we should all make 4 fingers in their rear view mirror our mantra - because they always check their accomplishments in the mirror On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 7:58:59 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > Also correcting my memory above - I didn't flip off Napoleon - I was > holding up 4 fingers

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

Also correcting my memory above - I didn't flip off Napoleon - I was holding up 4 fingers for 4 feet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

of course I'm less than half serious. Though it would be legal here, the calibre was designed for killing engine blocks, and since I don't have a concealed carry permit, the law would be lenient to me in a self-defense argument. The reason I don't do it is because I don't want to tempt myself

[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

blinkies - can't get too many - tail light plus helmet. The point is to help them identify you as early as possible and give them the maximum amount of time to think clearly. In town, there's a greenway that crosses an intersection at the junction of a 5-lane thoroughfare with a controlled

Re: [RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

If you have downtube shifter bosses on the frame you can get Shimano cable adjusters to fit over them, these are used with STI shifters. VO also sells some Dajia ones (don't look as nice as Shimano) for $10. If you don't have shifter bosses, you can as Rene has said install inline adjusters

[RBW] Re: Removing shellac on paint

Drew, I'd try polishing compounds, starting with the gentlest, toothpaste. Rub it on with a damp cloth, wipe with soft cloth. (actually, you could probably skip the toothpaste at go to:) Next up would be automotive cleaner/wax. If it says cleaner, it should have a mild abrasive. Finally, I

[RBW] Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

I've had a surprising amount of success with the "one moment, please" signal. What I do is look back to make eye contact - this means "Hi, I'm a person communicating with you" - then hold up one finger while moving left more to stipulate "I'm not conceding this lane yet." We get through the