Re: [RBW] Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread Lungimsam
I think Rivendell lugs are the prettiest on the planet. Rivendell just makes the most beautiful looking bikes on earth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Saddlebag Grip and Waxed Canvas Rain Cape

2016-04-25 Thread Michael Ullmer
Rain cape sold! On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 10:11:35 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote: > > I've got one more Saddlebag Grip for sale that's been gathering dust. It's > in great condition and comes with a homemade leather grip wrapped with > twine. I rigged this up when I was using the grip

[RBW] New Drivetrain Setup on the Hunqapillar

2016-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Not a 100 percent tangent, but I bought a nice carbon mountain bike. I picked the best frame with mediocre parts (deore 2x10). I just bought an XTR drivetrain for it from chain reaction (also 2x10). I'm kind of toying with putting this high end drivetrain on my Atlantis instead. Just for fun.

[RBW] Re: Boscoe and Rambouillet Pics Anyone?

2016-04-25 Thread Jeremy Till
Hey, that's me! I did have Bosco Bullmoose bars on my Quickbeam for about a year, and yes, it did feel very short, although the setback seatpost helped. They later got switched out for Albatrosses and eventually, Avenir Circa handlebars. The QB definitely has a comparatively short top tube;

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm

2016-04-25 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Boy am I ever glad he doesn't want to ship! It's really flat here in Louisville and I've wanted a QB or SimpleOne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Maryland area supported Century rides and also unsupported Brevets this spring, summer and fall 2016.

2016-04-25 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'll put a plug in for DC Randonneurs. They're wonderful folks. I did my 200k and 300k there last year and spent time at PBP with some of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread Jan Heine
To me, still one of the prettiest lug design ever. It's fancy and playful, yet tasteful. As to timeline, all the early Rivendells used them. Mine was built in early 1999, and was one of the first to use different lugs, with a mix of windows and curls. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly

[RBW] Re: Boscoe and Rambouillet Pics Anyone?

2016-04-25 Thread iamkeith
I did just remember this, in case you're still bent on trying to imagine what it will look like. This fellow put boscos on a quickbeam, right after the bars were released. http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2013/05/spring-2013-becoming-upright.html The Quickbeam is a contemporary-of

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm

2016-04-25 Thread Esteban
Someone should buy this ASAP!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Belopsky
Do you have a budget in mind? Do you already have parts? A Piolet build will not be cheaper than a Clem, especially with the pre-order right now, unless you have parts to build up the Piolet. On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > After typing that heading, I

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
It's real easy to turn a kid's interest in going for a ride into a new bike project for us to fiddle with. Which is great if the kid is on board, but more often than not they're fine with the one they already have. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Utah
My daughter rides a Surly Cross Check. High bottom bracket but takes wide tires. The low handle bars don't bother her young bones one bit. On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is > kosher

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm

2016-04-25 Thread Cal Good
For Sale: 60cm Rivendell Quickbeam -Early 2000's model, made by Panasonic in Japan -Phil wood track hubs with Mavic open pro rims -Campy headset -Nitto Pearl stem

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Edwin W
I agree with what everyone else is leaning toward: ride what you got. Bring her into the process. Does she want to change one component, such as cockpit (I know, several components) pedals, saddle or tires? Indulge her. I am always trying out new things and forcing my kids to get to the next

[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain Setup on the Hunqapillar

2016-04-25 Thread Keith Muller
Brian, I came by my Hunqapillar second hand. It came with a 27.2 seatpost that fit pretty tight. I ended up having to ream the seat tube so the seatpost could be adjusted without needing serious elbow grease. Keith On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 9:32:28 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
+1 for ride whatcha got. That will teach her a lot (and you as well), and may motivate her to know what she wants and work out how she's going to work toward it. I also sent you a PM. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > After typing

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread Frank Conway
Thanks for the other option, Evan. I'll keep that in mind for next time. For now I've ordered yellow Newbaum's and will be going with amber shellac. I rode a bit with a guy on a recent 100k and he had that combination and it gave a rich brownish color. Hopefully mine comes out similar!

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
My advice is that if your daughter wants to ride with you, and your daughter has a bike, why not just ride with your daughter? Her current bike sounds fine. If there is something that makes her current bike insufficient to ride with her dad, take care of that, but until then, this might be a

[RBW] Re: Boscoe and Rambouillet Pics Anyone?

2016-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
I very much agree with Keith. The only way a Bosco works on a Ram is if you bought one so big that the saddles rests on the toptube. It ain't gon happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
You're reverse-engineering what Grant did by creating the Clem. He made a semi-TIGed lower-cost Riv for people who've been scouring Craigslist for late-'80s/early-'90s mtbs, then spending more than they expected to make them into functional townies. There's still plenty of them out there, and I

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Frank Brose
Might be packing a little to much in the backpack don't you think Patrick? I have an older early 90'S Cannondale Red Shred set up Nitto dirt Drop stem and moustache bars, blackburn rear rack and upgraded wheels,rd and headset I'd part with if you can't find what you're looking for. But then

Re: [RBW] Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread Ryan Fleming
I think the road standards...all-rounders and expeditions are plainer., still nice but not RS.were long-lows even around then? On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 5:22:07 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote: > > This is very interesting. Which frames were built (are still) with these > lugs? ( I have a Riv Road

Re: [RBW] Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore
It sounds like an idyllic day. I feel your pain about headwinds: today's here in ABQ (spring windy season) has gusts to 40 mph -- and the wind couldn't make up its mind about where to blow from. I was riding out nearby bosque trail network on the Race Lite, and on the way home, yes I can tell you,

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Forgot to add: others have suggested: Isla bike; VO Piolet. Lowish bb very useful. Again, fat and tall tires. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is > kosher for this list. But I think it

[RBW] Cheap Clem substitutes?.

2016-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore
After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is kosher for this list. But I think it is; it has to do with my desire to get a fat tired bike with large bb drop for my daughter. I can't afford a Clem, but I think the Clem would be ideal for her: pushing 15, very occasional

Re: [RBW] Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread WETH
This is very interesting. Which frames were built (are still) with these lugs? ( I have a Riv Road Stnd that appears to have these.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Boscoe and Rambouillet Pics Anyone?

2016-04-25 Thread iamkeith
I'm thinking you want Albatross bars for this - not Bosco. Or maybe the Choco? I haven't tried the setup you're describing, but I have a 60cm Ram with noodles, and a 59cm Clem with boscos. The Ram has a very short top tube, even by Riv standards. Meanwhile, the Clem has an extremely long

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread Evan E.
Drew: The PolyWhey polyurethane takes just two hours to dry. But I let it dry overnight: safe side. Before my first ride, in a rainstorm, I had just one coat of urethane on my Riv-content Newbwaum's bar tape (no padding). The tape and the finish held up fine. Before my next ride, I added

[RBW] Re: Roscoe B

2016-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
The RB has a straight top tube, which makes the bike look more like that Kona with the really long name. I've always dug that bike, and I really dig Bubbe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Boscoe and Rambouillet Pics Anyone?

2016-04-25 Thread allenmichael
Does anyone in the community have a picture of a Rambouillet with Bosco's? I picked up the Eugene Orange Rambouillet with the shrunken stack, and I'm planning to put it together with a set of 650b's and an upright setup. Thanks in advance, Michael Allen -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread James Warren
Probably one of the last frames made with the original Riv lugs! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Esteban wrote: > > My '99 coupled Road Custom: > > > > > >> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 8:33:06 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: >> Richard Sachs posted a

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread Brian Campbell
I too like just one layer of cotton tape. I put some shellac on to keep it from getting too dirty. You can also do 2 layers of cotton tape to get a bit more of a "cush" factor. Just remember if you go that route, that the first layer should not be wrapped in an overlapping fashion. I just wrap

[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread Esteban
Sorry - I should have said this is by Joe Stark On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 1:10:44 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: > > My '99 coupled Road Custom: > > > > >

[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread Esteban
My '99 coupled Road Custom: On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 8:33:06 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: > > Richard Sachs posted a short little description

[RBW] Re: Roscoe B

2016-04-25 Thread El Sapo
I don't know what it is about curved top tubes, seat stays and that bubba tube. Any combination, I just like the looks of it. The RB looks huge and it really isn't. You could easily bring the RB handlebars down low like that Rock Lobster. One of the things I noticed on the ride, the bars were

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread masmojo
If you are going to put shellac or urethane, a lot of padding won't work anywayz; the tape will be squishy & the shellac will crack. I have some scraps of a rubbery tape(neoprene ?) I used several years ago (on something ?), I Cut a strip of it and stick it to the bar lengthwise where my hand

[RBW] Re: Roscoe B

2016-04-25 Thread iamkeith
Funny you should mention Rock Lobster. There's yet another Paul Sadoff creation that I've been admiring for quite a long while, and that has had me seriously considering as a template for a custom. This one was made as a mechanic's runabout for the team he sponsors. Ironically, it has a

[RBW] Elite "L'Eroica" bar mount cage/s

2016-04-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Has anyone used this? Do 2 full bottles make the bar flop excessively? Does it rattle? > >> On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 11:19:51 PM UTC-4, T.O.M. wrote: >> >>> An alternative, a bit more elegant solution perhaps? A bit of a PITA to >>> install but they practically disappear under the bottle

[RBW] Re: Will Rosco see the light of day?

2016-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
Well dang. I missed it, too! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread drew
im really interested in the poly option. i love the look and durability shellac, but im not a fan of the hard crust, and slippery feel in rain. how long does that polyurethane to dry and how many coats do you need to do? also, as a person who recently moved back to drop bars, i was afraid of

[RBW] Re: Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Kieran, the bag is only attached on the bars and the tombstone. I used a longer strap on the tombstone that intertwines with the rack, preventing it from lifting off the tombstone if I hit a big bump. That really helped stabilize the bag overall. Because the bar height is almost the exact

[RBW] Re: Will Rosco see the light of day?

2016-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Oh snap! The point had been completely lost on me that those of you who bought a Rosco Bubbe were buying for yourself a $1050 made in the USA frameset. It being ordered from Waterford. On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 2:58:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Yes, if you signed up for

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread Evan E.
Frank, To further muddy the waters, I suggest you consider polyurethane instead of shellac. I like shellac, but a few weeks ago when I was running low on shellac, I recalled that a list member recommended polyurethane because it's more durable. And I had a can handy, so. Here it is. It's

[RBW] Re: Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread Andrew Patteson
Wow, the ride sounds amazing and the bike looks great too! Thanks for posting; I feel inspired/jealous. :) Do you have corroplast or something like that in the bottom of the bag to keep it from sagging over the rack? Cheers, Andrew in SLC -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Sweet! I am really looking forward to single track again! As a rule, our trails are under snow for another month. Given we got over two feet of snow recently (a week ago?), I suspect they are still snow bound. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 10:32:56 PM UTC-6, Mark

Re: [RBW] Re: Getting the message out.

2016-04-25 Thread masmojo
Regarding the shower, it's a nice luxury, but not a deal killer for me. I commuted by bike for many years in Texas (Austin, Houston, Dallas) when I did not have a car or even when I did. I agree that a good plan is to be able to arrive early & give yourself time to cool down. Speaking for

Re: [RBW] Re: Getting the message out.

2016-04-25 Thread BenG
I share a locker room with bradley (round) sinks and a floor fan, no showers. Muggy mornings arrive early, take off sweaty cotton, put on dry merino and cotton, then douse head in sink, towel off. That slows the sweat. Factory temp is 90+ when outside is 90+, so not the last sweat I see that

[RBW] Re: Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread ian m
I've been using the longflap on my Pass & Stow rack as the Clem makes it difficult to use my rear rack and a saddlebag. Saddlestraps attach really nicely on Bullmoose bars and the seatpost strap goes around the rear rail. Works pretty solidly with the main downside being the straps must be

[RBW] Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs

2016-04-25 Thread Jeremy Till
Richard Sachs posted a short little description today of how the original Rivendell lugs came into being. Turns out Grant commissioned them while he was still at Bridgestone, but Bridgestone USA closed before they were used: http://www.richardsachs.com/site/2016/04/25/the-linger-commission/

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread Mattt
I second your decision. I have cotton bar tape with no padding provides a better feel. If you don't like the tape setup it will only cost you 10 bucks in tape to change. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread Esteban
Looks like a fun day. I'm ready to transfer Albatross bars to a 54cm Waterford Hunqa currently in frame/fork mode, and try 2.3 tires front and rear. I'm also deciding between 1x or 2x vs. 3x9 which I have parts for... Thanks for the idea on the saddlebag - I may try this out with my old Acorn

[RBW] Re: Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread Kieran J
Looks great, Mark. I wonder how the Longflap would do on a porteur rack type scenario. Is the bag attached to the bike in any other ways besides the straps on the bars and the tombstone? KJ On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 12:32:56 AM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote: > > I had all day Saturday to

[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain Setup on the Hunqapillar

2016-04-25 Thread Brian Campbell
Nice set up. Looking at the seat post on your Hunq, I assume that the diameter is 27.2? Did the seat post diameter change? My Hunq came to me (used) with a 26.8 post installed... On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 7:46:18 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote: > > So in my boredom at the bike shop I

[RBW] Re: Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting

2016-04-25 Thread Pondero
Thanks for the ride report, and the supplementary musings. Your experiences with with loading, bars, bartender bag, and the Ozette match mine. I'm pretty happy with the "cinch down" ability of the Shopsack for now, but I can see the appeal of the Carradice. The joy and optimism bubbles out of

[RBW] FS: Noodle cockpit & dirt drop stem

2016-04-25 Thread WETH
Sold-pending payment. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not

2016-04-25 Thread Frank Conway
Thanks for all your inputs. Now I'm leaning towards just cotton/shellac, but I'll probably change my mind three times by the time I order the stuff. As Deacon Patrick said, you just need to try something and see what you like. Thanks again for your advice and knowledge. Frank Conway