Re: [RBW] Silver or green Joe?

I, too, have a hard time picturing what the silver would look like as a full frame. Especially around the lugs. Could be rad or could be just fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

I can confirm that drop bars on a JA is a bad idea. It's why I'm selling mine. Riv tried to explain this to me prior to purchase but I thought I'd give it a try. Didn't work. They are different bikes and are meant to be set up differently. Expensive lesson. ;) On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at

[RBW] Re: Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

I have a sister to your Expedition, an '84 Miyata 1000. I'm the original owner. AFAIK Miyata built the Expedition's for Spec. The geo differs just a bit, mostly in the steeper ST angle of the Spec. The actual geo of my Miyata is very close to that of an AHH in the same size. I have not

[RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

Hey Toshi, are you the same guy with the Bombadil? Is that by chance for sale? :) On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 9:24:20 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: > > OK folks, I bought this frame a few years ago for $900, but am willing to > sell it to a good home for $400. I went over the frame and found a

Re: [RBW] New RBW newsletter - "New bikes" ?

I interpreted it as Appaloosas arriving in the new colors. Maybe some other shipments of current models? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:00 PM, Belopsky wrote: > > Anyone else catch the "new bikes March 15th" note? > > -- > You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

Thanks to everyone for the interest in the frame, but it is now sold. Best regards, Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] New RBW newsletter - "New bikes" ?

Anyone else catch the "new bikes March 15th" note? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

Very much appreciated! On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 4:51:51 PM UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote: > > Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i noticed it: > > https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry > > no offers optimal size of all models for a given pbh. Pretty cool. > > Sky in new west > --

[RBW] WTB: 51cm Soma San Marcos or 54cm Rambouillet Frameset

Thanks all. I just bought Toshi's Ram. Can't wait!! It's my first Rivendell. I'll be sure to post pictures after it's built. Cheers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Silver or green Joe?

"Yellow Snow sticker" Don't eat it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Silver or green Joe?

I think the green Clem is beautiful. I helped my bro in law set up his green 65 cm. HUGE beauty. I was guessing the new Appa color would be that. One could get the mustard Appaloosa, call it the Zappaloosa, and put a Yellow Snow sticker on it. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2017, at 6:01

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

I don't think Riv could dream of adding shipping labor into the price of frames and bikes. Grant has been vocal about trying to keep the prices manageable while still actually making money off them since, like, 1994. I feel confident that if I pick up a bike in Walnut Creek, I'm not paying a

[RBW] Silver or green Joe?

I agree with Richard about color matching your bikes. I love the old Cheviot green which I think is the new Appa green, but I think it's going to be too similar to your Clem if you plan on keeping that one, too. Btw, I had a green Clem (replaced by blue Joe), and I agree about the color: It's

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

I suppose I took the shipping price too literal compared to another online store where I figure I'm paying postage and that's essentially it. Packing is a pain no doubt, I thought those costs may be accounted for in item prices to some degree as well. I typically use shipbikes.com and have

Re: [RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

Hey Eric, If you ever wanna try one out, I have a 60cm Bombadil in new west, which, by the chart, would be your size. Sky in new west On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 5:05:11 PM UTC-8, ericf3 wrote: > > Thanks, new to me and nice to have the PBH chart as l consider my next > move. Atlantis?

Re: [RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

Thanks, new to me and nice to have the PBH chart as l consider my next move. Atlantis? Hunqa? If l read it right l see a 65 Atlantis, izzat new? ef Vancouver 93.5 PBH On 2 March 2017 at 16:51, Sky Coulter wrote: > Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i

[RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

Yep i dig it. I'm guessing it's fairly new to as i just noticed it the other day. Saddle height suggestion seems to be dropping a bit, I wonder why? Higher bars better with lower saddle, thinner pedals? Any way it is a really nice reference point. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Silver or green Joe?

Based on my personal experience I say go silver here is why. Somehow I ended up with 3 greenish Rivs at one point in time, an atlantis, simpleone, and proto hunqa. My wife walks into the garage one day and says my bikes are cute because of the ombre color scheme! Cute and ombre not what I want

[RBW] cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i noticed it: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry no offers optimal size of all models for a given pbh. Pretty cool. Sky in new west -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Silver or green Joe?

Ryan, The Appa would be a 55. I could fit a 58 or 61 Atlantis according to the Riv guide. I remember when I first discovered Riv and an Atlantis was $1200. That was sooo far out of my reach for a long time. Now I am doing okay (public school teacher :)) and have bike priorities. I could have

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Agreed about Riv's shipping cost. I always cringe a bit when I sell a bike and know it's gotta be shipped, it's a fair amount of work. In fact after a few DIY bike boxing adventures I don't / wont do it myself any more. I now take it to the bike shop who charges 60$. They do a good job or I

[RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

Apologies - meant for this to go to private message On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 6:35:27 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > Hi Toshi. I am very interested in your frame. I see and accept the > ding. I would be willing to pay Bike Flights plus any packing costs you > would incur. I

[RBW] WTB Nitto 32f front rack

I had one, then i sold it, and now i need one again ;). I also have an M12 front rack I can trade (or sell separately). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Albatross bar slipping

It's marked 25.4, I'm regreasing this weekend and hopefully all is solved! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] FS - Selle San Marco Regal Saddle w/Chrome Rivets

Bump! Let's do $40 shipped CONUS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Correct again. It takes me every bit of 2 hours to pack a bike, in fact I don't think I can do it in two hours and I've done it alot, plus materials,chasing down a box and varios other things to make it work right. Rivs prices are not out of line the least bit IMO. On Thursday, March 2, 2017

[RBW] Re: 54 cm Rambouillet frame/fork/headset for sale--$400!!

Hi Toshi. I am very interested in your frame. I see and accept the ding. I would be willing to pay Bike Flights plus any packing costs you would incur. I would work around your time schedule (In other words I wouldn't be breathing down your neck for shipping). Payment would be immediate if

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Thanks for the info.   I still use paselas but will give the gravel kings a try next time new rubber is needed.  I love Pari

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Correct, us private sellers aren't charging labor for packing a bike 'cause we're not trying to run a business and pay people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] FS: Schmidt Edelux II silver polish light w/ custom fender mount - $150 shipped

Album of photos. https://flic.kr/s/aHskSxz6TX $150 shipped. This light was mounted, wire has been trimmed. I made a custom mount for it. I can include some M3 allen screws and an M6 w some washers. The light has seen 5 miles of outdoors. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

they do a really great packing job. i think i read somewhere too pack a bike, it takes them like around 2 hours. On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-5, Andrew Huston wrote: > > Then why can I ship a bike for $100 or less and it costs $170 from Riv? > Honest question, no snark. --

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Rivendell has to buy the box and other supplies and pay a person a decent wage to do the work. They probably also insure the bike which adds considerable cost. I just shipped a bike with BikeFlights from ND to VA and the cost with insurance was $124. That was using the box from Riv and all

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Then why can I ship a bike for $100 or less and it costs $170 from Riv? Honest question, no snark. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

Panaracer Gravel Kings are a good choice. They're similar to the lightweight Pari-Moto tires, but with an added puncture protection layer. On the suppleness scale (rock hard tires are 0, handmade tubulars are 10), I'd give them a 7 to 7.5. A good compromise tire. They've supplanted the old

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Rivendell undoubtably also has a Bikefights corporate account Bernie Burton On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:14 PM, 'Steve' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote: >> >> Using Bikeflights is cheaper for a company

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

Jon, you're brilliant and you're RIGHT. The tape had shifted, and the room sliced the tube. I also took your suggestion of Panaracer tires and ran with it. I ordered new tires - Panaracer Gravel something or other - the shop owner and I sat and talked about what I wanted in a tire and what

[RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote: > > Using Bikeflights is cheaper for a company than having a corporate > account? > I suspect that discount associated with a corporate account is tied to the amount of volume that business does with the carrier. The more volume,

Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

On 03/02/2017 12:17 PM, Wayne Naha wrote: No, Steve, it doesn't have to be a freewheel at all. The Grand Bois 120mm cassette you found is amazing. I had no idea that such a thing existed. It really is ideal. I really wasn't relishing the use of a freewheel, mainly because they don't seem

[RBW] Re: FS: fillet-brazed 650B triple triangle F/F/HS/Fenders/Racks

Thank God. I'm one bike away from a fire department citation. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross bar slipping

Sorry, my bad I thought you were have problems with the threadless stem. Yes a bit more torque on the Technomic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross bar slipping

I am wondering if you are using the proper stem? Is there a gap between the back of the front piece & the front of the mating surface of the stem? If not you are probably using the wrong size stem. I had a similar problem on a Technomic stem, but it just needed a bit more torque, no problems

[RBW] Re: Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

Check out the actual specs from this website

[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

Of course they are redundant but they aren't the same. Look at the number of road racing bikes the big bike companies sell. Are they redundant? Yes but each is different enough to justify a separate model. The differences between them may appeal to one buyer or another. What's wrong with a

[RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Using Bikeflights is cheaper for a company than having a corporate account? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

This is a Rivendell geek-out group having esoteric discussions about model overlap. The Atlantis marquee is a known quantity in touring bike circles, IMO. For that reason it's important to keep it. $0.02 On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:48 AM, masmojo wrote: > I've ridden

[RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights

I'm not surprised. It's really handy to input all the measurements and weight, print a label, and schedule a pickup or drop off at the office. it's all I use On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 12:38:45 PM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote: > > Hello, > > I was just peeling the shipping label off the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

I've ridden both & they are both great bikes and depending on size & use an Appaloosa may be perfect for you. I very nearly bought one, but was vasillating back and forth between that & a Hunqapillar. I was getting tripped up on the sizing when the Atlantis I bought came available & I realized

[RBW] Re: Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

The actual specs will help you, from this website

[RBW] Rivendell uses BikeFlights

Hello, I was just peeling the shipping label off the box the Appaloosa came in and it says BikeFlights on it in small print. I was pretty surprised. A good endorsement for those unsure about using this relatively new company. Fedex does the actual shipping. Cheers! Chris -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

Learn to fix flats -- it's not hard, and if you carry a spare tube or 2 and fix the puncture proper at home, you can be back on the road in a few minutes -- usually faster than walking to your destination. The longest part is pumping the tire, and even this can be minimized and the effort reduced

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a bike old?

I wish the big makers had focused on hub gears instead of cramming 12 onto the rear hub and using batteries to shift. Man, what a good selection we might have by now! And prices might be much lower if good hub gears were sold over a much large rmarket. Fat chance, I realize, since really the

Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

No, Steve, it doesn't have to be a freewheel at all. The Grand Bois 120mm cassette you found is amazing. I had no idea that such a thing existed. It really is ideal. I really wasn't relishing the use of a freewheel, mainly because they don't seem to be made anymore. And with the Grand Bois

[RBW] Re: F/S 62cm Proto- Hunqapillar/Bomba

This one's headed up to it's new home in Portland, Or. If you see list member Tim riding it around stumptown give him a shout! He's a nice guy and I'm stoked to send him this bike! Thanks for everyone who chimed in and showed interest. Kurt On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 1:07:03 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] Vintage Expedition vs. AHH and Atlantis

Greetings. I'm in the process of building up a 1983 Specialized Expedition (which is a really lovely bike). From a distance, the frame looks to have more or less the same geometry as the AHH or, possibly, the Atlantis. Does anyone have experience with the vintage Expeditions such that he or

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

have them check that it wasn't caused by exposed rim that cut the tube and not a puncture from a thorne. Hopefully someone will stop and fix your flat. Let me know if I can help. Jon "FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK " On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Leah Peterson

[RBW] Re: WTB: 51cm Soma San Marcos or 54cm Rambouillet Frameset

I have the old Rambouillet page link here (which has the geometry): http://web.archive.org/web/20030302234257/http://www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_rambouilletframes.html I just saw the FS post for the 54cm. Good price too. Sounds like serendipity! Sean ATX > >> -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

As I type this, I am walking my bike. Why, you ask? Because I have a rear flat. All worries of offending the LBS have currently gone out the window. I will be swinging by there today asking for new tires. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, RichS wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

After Steve mentioned that 120mm Gran Bois cassette hub I surfed over to Compass to take a look. It'd be perfect. Then I took a look at the 6-cog cassette they sell for it and it'd be even more perfect. It has a 14-28 gear range on it which would be a great match for that Raleigh. It'd be

[RBW] Re: FS: fillet-brazed 650B triple triangle F/F/HS/Fenders/Racks

SOLD, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel? Grand Bois makes a nice new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or six speed Hyperglide cassette (made with 7 spd sprockets and spacers). On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote: Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, I was not

[RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, I was not expecting this level of fun. And about finding a 120 mm hub! But I've got time on my hands to look. Thanks to all who have responded. That 120mm Grand Bois cassette hub is certainly an interesting option. On Wednesday, March 1, 2017

[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

Atlantis is more size specific and can use drop bars. I just got an appaloosa, because after using the bosco and albatross bars, I don't think I would use drop bars on this type of bike On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:07:18 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote: > > Just read the latest Blug that goes on

[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

Check out this current thread which includes a discussion of Appaloosa vs Atlantis: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/SGTUAHh_npg The take home messages for me are (1) your choice of handlebar is an important consideration in choosing between the two and (2) if you want

[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

I enjoyed that long description of the Joe on the Blug. A couple of favorite passages: *If you go about riding thinking there’s nothing you shouldn’t be able to conquer, you’ll eventually wreck something; so don’t think it’s you vs terrain. ... The woods aren’t your gym and hiking isn’t

Re: [RBW] When is a bike old?

we're the steel bike guys. No question, dollars on bikes and cars both go faster and farther than they did in the good old days. Adrenaline, anyone? On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:43:00 PM UTC-6, Addison wrote: > >

[RBW] Atlantis now redundant?

The Atlantis is pretty much the signature Riv frame these days. It has been around since the very late 90's and as mentioned, since they are built to order they never have unsold frames to concern over. Back then I could have bought one in the very original geometry that had longer tt's, but I