Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

2023-01-31 Thread Luke Hendrickson
Epic custom! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 2:12:32 PM UTC-8 mmille...@gmail.com wrote: > Not sure the condition under the dirt, but looks like good value for a > custom Riv if you are in the San Jose area. Heck, could sell those tower > bars and nitto, clean and relist if you don't like it.

[RBW] Re: Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

2023-01-31 Thread Brian Forsee
Thanks to all for the ideas! The snap ring pliers and the disc brake tool both seem like great options and I am far from adverse to buying new tools. Brian On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:52:38 PM UTC-6 cycli...@gmail.com wrote: > >

[RBW] Rivendell Clem L Complete, 52cm, RBW Blue $2,100.00

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
I found this available or at least it seems so: https://utilitybicycleworks.com/shop/rivendell-clem-l-complete-52cm-rbw-blue Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote: > Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though > it's a fully built bike. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread JAS
Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though it's a fully built bike. https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html --Joyce On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > Both. I wanted to use a

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Patrick Moore
I've read that AW hubs made before a certain date -- 1960s? -- had a design flaw that caused whatever tiny little metal part inside the hub -- Clutch? Pegs that engage the clutch? -- would flex in such a way to tend toward clutch disengagement under high torque. This was fixed in later models. Of

Re: [RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
'Joe, I would always bet on your Riv knowledge and memory, :) but based on this brochure it appears that the pointiness or roundedness of the lugs do not in themselves indicate a move to Waterford production." My memory ain't what it once was, Jim. You can count on me for accurate Riv lore

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Piaw Na
I've actually met Jobst while touring (and he showed up for Western Wheeler rides once in a while). I was at the Jobst memorial ride with Tom Ritchey, etc., and watched as Ritchey cleared tree roots, etc., with 23mm tires that I wouldn't be able to do with a MTB. Jobst, once he found something

[RBW] WTB: Brass Headset Spacers

2023-01-31 Thread Ted Durant
Hi All - Working on my Lime Olive Sam build, I am trying to find a couple of 2mm brass 1" headset spacers. The usual retail options aren't available. Anybody have a couple they are willing to spare? Please contact me offline. Thanks! Ted Durant Milwaukee, WI USA -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
I am hoping that the Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset is not discontinued and rides off into the sunset. I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" in RBW Blue and in turn sell my lime olive frameset. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 5:22:41 PM UTC-8

Re: [RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-01-31 Thread Bill Schairer
I'm guessing saddle height is measured from center of BB to top of seat in that chart? If that is the case, my bike, as pictured, is right at the upper limit per the sizing chart. I measure from the pedal spindle since not all my bikes have the same length cranks. I was initially a little

Re: [RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
Hi Leah, I thank-you for your information, regarding the frame size of Pam's Betty Foy. I did not know that. Incredible that Pam surpassed the 70,000 mile mark on her bike ! Amazing On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:41:47 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > No - she loves her

[RBW] parts for sale

2023-01-31 Thread vernon brooks
I have posted some parts for sale on craigslist. Local sale is preferred but I suppose I could ship at buyer's expense. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-crust-rivendell-paul/7583311691.html Thanks, Vern in San Francisco -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Mackenzy Albright
Haha! Touché Eric. I feel like Brandt falls into the heros of the retrogrouch. Grant, Sheldon Brown, Rando Jan (not to be confused with Business Jan) Id love to hear a considerate counterpoint from somebody that says he'd be on a 54mm tire carbon open... On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:59:44

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Richard Rose
So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M wrote:I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm effective top tube is so

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Eric Daume
The Riv list imagining Jobst riding a steel frame with rim brakes? Shocking! Eric On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 7:37 PM Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think he'd ride a very similar bike today to the ones he rode for 50 > years. > >- Steel. He wasn't swayed by

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
They definitely went fast! I had a green in my cart and got distracted, gone. Went for the gold and was lucky. I think it was 4 minutes or so and they were gone! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:45:51 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Paul M
I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top tube on

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Philip Williamson
I think he'd ride a very similar bike today to the ones he rode for 50 years. - Steel. He wasn't swayed by aluminum, titanium, or carbon, the first time around, so nu-Jobst wouldn't choose them either. Steel is still tough, reliable, and cheap. - Fillet brazed? I imagine this was

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! I’m glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive

Re: [RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-01-31 Thread J J
This thread has been so interesting. That red Atlantis is gorgeous. If only it were the right size for me… Check out the photos of various configurations and setups in this very early Atlantis brochure , which is

[RBW] Re: FS: Silver crank arms

2023-01-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
Possible sale pending. On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:43:55 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote: > Rivendell Silver brand 5 bolt crank arms 178mm. Used but in great shape! > Asking $115 plus shipping. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: FS: TA 36t, Bleriot badge, Velox/Jones plugs

2023-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
Typo fix and more detail on the TA: *didn't use it much*, marked 9/10-speed, worked fine with my 11-speed chain. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > Clutter reduction! All prices include shipping. > > TA Zephyr 110bcd 36t chainring, sold to me without much

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Chris Halasz
Well, Tom Ritchey may be credited with influencing newer bike technology to (a well-opinionated) Jobst. Jobst, who preferred steel drop bars. Having said that, Tom and Martha have discs on (at least) one of their tandems (but not all), and at Martha's request (according to Tom). That tandem

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Andrew Turner
Laing, I think you made a lot of solid arguments. Custom steel still feels like the way he'd go, and probably not so dissimilar to his no-frills road bikes of yore. I'm certainly grateful for his impact on the bicycle, riders, and builders of today, and for the journalists keeping his name

Re: [RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-01-31 Thread Greg
Wow, you guys really are the source for all things Rivendell!!… I mean seriously, tracking down the original owner?… Smart! Thanks to your assistance, I’ve decided to pass on this opportunity for the moment… I think I’m going to wait for a 60cm and honestly I need to sell or trade my Jones

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread lconley
If he were still around, I think he would probably still have the same setup as the 2008 photo, steel, rim brakes, clipless pedals. But that is not the question that seems to have been posed. As I understand the question, it is if his prime days were now, what would he be riding - basically

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread JW
All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it sounds like they'll be discontinued all together. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com wrote: > Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Jeremy Till
Loved the Radavist article today, been a long time admirer of JB, used to loving pouring over his rec.bicycles.tech postings archived on yarchive.net . In terms of the thought experiment of what he would be riding today, as far as I know this

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Eric Marth
I remember reading somewhere Jobst thought the 6 speeds on his freewheel were more than enough. And have read in more place's than today's TR/JB piece that Jobst didn't shift very much! Vaguely recall a direct quote from him saying he didn't shift every time the terrain changed. On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

2023-01-31 Thread Johnny Alien
Actually the purple Betty is a 50. I didn't remember the second set of sizes when I told him it must be a 52. The 47 had 26" wheels so even at 50 with the 650b wheels it would be a pretty solid jump up in size. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 9:41:47 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ronald Halili
Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike which was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) but what I really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and still do) was a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I realized the Gus

[RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-01-31 Thread Jeremy Till
I *think* this bike was formerly owned by (former list member?) Gino Zahnd, as evidenced by this photo from 2013, which I faved at the time: https://flic.kr/p/f8fyGT Gino does reference selling it in the comments on the photo. -Jeremy Till Sacramento, CA On Monday, January 30, 2023 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
I'll defer to the others about sizing, I think they've nailed it (and the listing now calls it a 58). Once again my murky memory has failed me. That Waterford has the same pointy head lugs as the red Toyo, somewhere along the line they got rounded off but it must have been later at Waterford.

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Victor Hanson
That's true, but Jobst, Peter Johnson, John Loomis, Tom Ritchey, Charlie Cunningham, are all members of the Less Is More club. 130mm/135mm not enough room for a cassette, adequate strength hub and disc rotor to all fit. vtw d On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 10:42 AM Andrew Turner wrote: > I think I'd

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Andrew Turner
I think I'd agree that Jobst would remain an advocate for the rim brake...PROBABLY. But just to play devil's advocate, if Jobst was in his prime today, he wouldn't have been brought up with the old-school tech that we're familiar with him using, but I suppose being a *bit* of a retrogrouch

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Andrew, Thank you for sharing. The article was definitely worth the read. A few things stood out to me: - they were/are all *extremely *fit. - fear was not a word in their vocabulary. - what camaraderie (and competition) at the same time. - the Higgins' couple rock. Of course the stoker is

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread George Schick
I notice from the 2008 photo that he's migrated to clipless shoes and pedals. Also, he's wearing regular shorts instead of a pair of cycling-specific ones. Personally, I have to disagree about the wool. I find the newer Spandex shorts to be much more comfortable, especially so since they

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Eric Marth
George — I do wish that there was more simple wool out there in nice solid colors and I think generally shorts are too long! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote: > Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike very > similar to what he

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Mackenzy Albright
I'm also curious about the opinion of Brandt on modern cycling technology. One thing I've noticed is he is feverishly adamant about 1. Preventative failures and design flaws even if miniscule. 2. Repairability in the field. It makes me wonder about opinions on carbon. If you get a chip or

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Eric Marth
Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike very similar to what he ran most of his life. Steel frame, no racks, rim brakes. Maybe a frame that would accommodate wider tires. Here's a picture of Jobst from his last Alpine tour in 2008 (read more here

[RBW] Re: For sale: Vintage Rivendell tee shirt

2023-01-31 Thread Eric Marth
Sold, thanks! On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:58:06 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote: > [image: IMG_5005.JPG] > > [image: IMG_5011.JPG] > > Here's an old Rivendell tee. Size is labeled XL, it's big and boxy. Pit to > pit is 24.5", overall length is 29.5". Small fleck stain on the front. Some >

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread George Schick
True. I remember those days. The most you see in one or two of those photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks like he has a mountaineering helmet. Another thing I notice is much shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Steven Sweedler
Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available. During Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley wrote: > One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a helmet. > > Laing > > On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM

[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread lconley
One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a helmet. Laing On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod to > current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier

[RBW] Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

2023-01-31 Thread Andrew Turner
I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. Today's Radavist

Re: [RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-01-31 Thread Greg
Thank you Joe, obviously I recognize your name in reference to anything Atlantis on the Internet Before I drive up and look at this bike though I’m wondering if I’m 6’ (89 PBH) will a 57 Atlantis fit me… I have a 60 Homer that fits me good with albatross bars… but strangely I have a Koga

Re: [RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

2023-01-31 Thread Leah Peterson
No - she loves her Betty and, hers is a 47 cm and it’s too big for her. (This purple Betty is a 52.) She rides it anyway and just crossed the 70,000 mile mark last week.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2023, at 9:39 AM, Kim Hetzel wrote:Maybe Pam Murray of Pam Bikes would be interested in this

[RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
Maybe Pam Murray of Pam Bikes would be interested in this Betty Foy for an upgrade from her old Betty Foy bicycle ?... Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:24:09 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I saw this on the Facebook group: > > >

[RBW] Re: Woolrich CPO Shirt Jacket

2023-01-31 Thread Dave Grossman
Dropping this to $60 shipped On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:57:48 PM UTC-6 Dave Grossman wrote: > I have been using this a late Fall/early winter riding piece for a while > but I recently bought an Empire Wool and Canvas pullover and this is just > sitting. > > The sizing is worn out but

[RBW] Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

2023-01-31 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I saw this on the Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5574598489315205/ Seems like someone would just love this one of a kind Betty! Leah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To