Re: [RBW] Albatross bar slipping

2017-02-28 Thread Jason Hartman
I have found that swept back bars such as the albatross need to have the stem bolt torqued much tighter to keep from slipping. Sometimes disconsortingly so. My albatross slipped when the stem was torqued to spec. In such cases, i try to find a stem with a through bolt, and not one that relies on al

Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Family Coffee/tea Pot

2016-12-26 Thread Jason Hartman
I like that's it's stainless steel, so that there's none of that build up of deposits like in the bottom of the Bialetti. Also, it has a very thick bottom that seems to diffuse heat better and result in a smoother espresso. Jay On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 9:34 PM Deacon Patrick wrote: > Jay, > > CF

Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Family Coffee/tea Pot

2016-12-26 Thread Jason Hartman
If you're 1) willing to switch to drinking americanos, and 2) can give up MUSA for made in Italy, Vev Vigano has stainless moka pots that brew 12 cups of espresso at a time. I like my (much smaller version) much better that the ubiquitous Bialetti. Jay Hartman Jay Hartman On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Pile of Parts FS

2016-12-16 Thread Jason Hartman
That's seriously underpriced, and a fantastic bargain. I would jump on it myself but, 1) I have no immediate need, 2) way more than enough spare parts. Jay Hartman On Friday, December 16, 2016, Patrick Shea wrote: > I have a set of Modolo brake calipers, Bianchi crankset, NR front and > rear d

Re: [RBW] PSA: NOS 56 Rambouillett on KC Craigslist

2016-03-06 Thread Jason Hartman
It's in the old Riv Readers somewhere, but I think the front end geometry changed over time. The first ones had a 73 degree head angle with a 45 mm fork rake, at least on the middle sizes. Jay Hrtman On Sunday, March 6, 2016, iamkeith wrote: > > > On Sunday, March 6, 2016 at 10:50:49 AM UTC-7, H

Re: [RBW] Single Speed Freewheel Removal

2015-11-17 Thread Jason Hartman
There are a few options I can think of: Use a grinder to make the removal tool's hole big enough to fit over the PW end cap. Make your own tool out of a flat piece of scrap steel. Of course, it will only engage two notches and I would recommend using the vice method. Use a chisel or punch of som

Re: [RBW] Rust, Repaint options and Realignment Questions.

2015-09-06 Thread Jason Hartman
I'm going to recommend taking it in the opposite direction. Skip the blasting and powder coat. Tackle the rust and just hit the bare spots with a clear coat of rattle can, or wax. It will be way less attractive to thieves and function just as well. Jay Hartman On Sunday, September 6, 2015, drew

Re: [RBW] How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-09-05 Thread Jason Hartman
I used an electric drill to do mine. Quick and easy. On Monday, August 31, 2015, N. Llama wrote: > Speaking of lacing Brooks saddles, does anyone have a basic DIY for it? Do > I need a Leather Punch or Awl or can I do it at home with other tools? > > > -- > You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Quality of Deore front hubs?

2015-07-28 Thread Jason Hartman
Midline Shimano hubs are a bargain. They are well sealed, and thankfully, Shimano has continued to use cup and cone bearings. Be aware that they without fail come from the factory with very little grease and adjusted far too tightly. Open up the hub, squirt some more grease in there, and adjust th

Re: [RBW] Brilliant Bicycle Company

2015-05-30 Thread Jason Hartman
I just read the assembly instructions. Indeed these guys are brilliant. They have managed to make a bicycle where you can get the front wheel nuts and pedals tight enough with what looks like a four inch wrench. Even better, no grease is needed on the stem, seatpost or pedal threads. As an added bo

Re: [RBW] RBW Osaka Roadie clip bell loud enough?

2015-05-18 Thread Jason Hartman
It's really easy to slip a washer on the shaft between the bell and the striker. I have done it on a few of my bikes. It completely solves the unintended ringing problem. Jay Hartman On Monday, May 18, 2015, blakcloud wrote: > I haven't used that bell but I know I wouldn't buy it. I dislike be

Re: [RBW] Seattle RBWers: Help Buying A CL Bike

2015-04-30 Thread Jason Hartman
You might even be able to get an even better rate of you are willing to pick it up at an REI store. Jay On Thursday, April 30, 2015, bo richardson wrote: > i am in bellingham, not seattle. But how i would do this is > ask the owner, " your price, my terms." ask him if he minds taking the > bike

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank (Quickbeam)

2015-04-30 Thread Jason Hartman
In that case, my apologies. Nice bit of camouflage too. Jay On Thursday, April 30, 2015, Ron Mc wrote: > Jay, it's only Lambert foils from Cyclomondo. It was an Anglophile > splash, disavowing the French connection. > > >

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank (Quickbeam)

2015-04-30 Thread Jason Hartman
Not to be pedantic, but that looks like the Lambert copy of the TA crank. They were designed for their proprietary spindle that was taperless. If you were using it on another bottom bracket, it's not surprising that it broke. A lot of people get the two cranks confused because they look so similar.

Re: [RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Jason Hartman
I know the folks at Riv are nice people and all, but if your brand new $2000 frame is out of spec, then the right thing to do is send it back and get a new one with the correct tolerance. I could understand using such workarounds on an old frame of unknown history, but on a new bike that's totally

Re: [RBW] Is my BB installed unsafely?

2015-04-09 Thread Jason Hartman
It's not an ideal set up, but if it hasn't moved so far, I might be inclined to leave it alone and just keep an eye on it. That being said, I think the phil spindles are just a straight cylinder without shoulders to locate the bearings. It should be possible to move the spindle to one side or the o

Re: [RBW] Fund my Clem sale!

2015-03-28 Thread Jason Hartman
I haven't looked them up, but some of the brightly anodized early 90's mtb parts are becoming collectible. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get $200 or more for the cranks alone, depending on condition. Jay Hartman On Saturday, March 28, 2015, Wayne Naha wrote: > Let the discounting begin!

Re: [RBW] frame repair in Chicago

2015-03-12 Thread Jason Hartman
What exactly happened? Pictures would help explain too. Do you use a kickstand? If it was me, I would cut away as much of the kickstand plate as I could with a hacksaw, Drexel, etc, and then grind/ file the remnants until there was nothing left. Hit it with some primer and touch up paint and get

Re: [RBW] Clem PreSale.

2015-03-10 Thread Jason Hartman
What Joe said, and Loose Screws now has nice 27" tires: http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=single&c=Tire/Tube&sc=Tire&tc=Touring%20Tire&item_id=SWT-27138TW&id=388484816578 I would try a set of those first, before setting your sights on a whole new bike. Jay Hartman On Tuesday, March 10, 201

Re: [RBW] Naked cotton tape

2015-03-02 Thread Jason Hartman
A good tip I just remembered is to thoroughly wet the cotton tape just before installing. When it dries, it will shrink and be even tighter on the handlebars. Jay Hartman On Monday, March 2, 2015, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Green Grips is on the list to try, though I'm sticking with Newbwaum's for

Re: [RBW] Surprising Failure Today

2015-01-24 Thread Jason Hartman
I just looked it up. Shimano has a two year warranty on Tiagra. It could be worth looking into. Jay Hartman On Sunday, January 18, 2015, John wrote: > Towards the end of my ride today, I heard a loud crunch and my Ram lurched > to a stop. Didn't take long to figure out the cause. My Shimano T

Re: [RBW] Your dream RBW wheel set build, please

2014-12-14 Thread Jason Hartman
Velocity a23, Hed Belgium, or H+son rims. Son deluxe front hub, White Industries rear hub. Double butted spokes. Maybe 15/16 on the front and nds rear. 14/15 on the drive side. 28 or 32 spokes on the front. 32 spokes on the rear. Of course, this depends on your riding style. Jay Hartman On Sund

Re: [RBW] Daring to wrench on my Riv's?

2014-12-05 Thread Jason Hartman
While the Park cable cutter is ok, the Felco I used while working at a bike shop this summer is leagues better. My guess is that costs leagues more too, but I haven't looked up the price. Jay Hartman. On Friday, December 5, 2014, Joe Bernard wrote: > Seconded for the Park 3-way wrench, and good

Re: [RBW] Speaking of Stem Shifters...

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
You can try the Suntour stem shifters on nine speed, and if they don't work, just use the Riv mount. Btw, both shifter bodies are the same, the front one just doesn't have the ratchet. If you find another set, the transplant is easy and you can have ratcheting for both front and rear. Jay Hartman.

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start "making"?

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
anks. I > have them on three bikes at the moment. > > —Eric N > campyonly...@me.com > www.campyonly.com > www.wheelsnorth.org > Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > Twitter: @campyonlyguy > > On Nov 25, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Jason Hartman > wrote: > > What would

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start "making"?

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
nt. > > —Eric N > campyonly...@me.com > www.campyonly.com > www.wheelsnorth.org > Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > Twitter: @campyonlyguy > > On Nov 25, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Jason Hartman > wrote: > > What would you like in a crankset that isn't offered no

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start "making"?

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
What would you like in a crankset that isn't offered now? It's hard to beat the Sugino that Riv sells. If they start with a new forging, then it would be hard to keep the price reasonable. Is it worth two to three times the cost of the Sugino just to get a lower Q factor? At that point you could b

Re: [RBW] Riv for the wife

2014-11-05 Thread Jason Hartman
This brings up a related question. Just how do most people get on their bikes? I put my left foot on the pedal and swing my leg over the back, as one does with a horse. I guess with abig saddlebag that could be a problem, but I don't use them. Jay Hartman On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Cecily Wa

rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

2014-11-04 Thread Jason Hartman
No, not at all. The last time it was checked, my good cholesterol was 100 and my bad was 130. I love sardines, and fish in general. I just haven't given up on carbs. Would it make a difference? That is what I want to know. Is this a diet just for people who are overweight? Or with health problems i

rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

2014-11-04 Thread Jason Hartman
Not to hijack the thread, but is there any reason that a thin healthy person with good cholesterol, blood numbers, etc, should even consider this diet? Is there any other benefit to be had? Jay Hartman. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, Corwin wrote: > I've been cutting back on carbs for about fou

Re: [RBW] Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-13 Thread Jason Hartman
To get the bolt out, go to a auto parts store or the like and buy yourself an easy out tool. You will have to drill a small hole in the end of the broken bolt. Then insert the tool and turn counter clockwise. It should come right out. Secondly, get yourself some good calipers and measure the seat

Re: [RBW] Forget that Riv Custom

2014-10-09 Thread Jason Hartman
I'm surprised Waterford agreed to build it with those drop outs. That is a highly stressed area and not one that should have any metal removed from. Jay Hartman On Thursday, October 9, 2014, Mike K. wrote: > Sorry to bump this back to the top, but this has nothing to do with the > Schwinn Sierr

Re: [RBW] SONdelux or Shutter Precision SV-8 Dynamo Hub?

2014-10-07 Thread Jason Hartman
FWIW, my circa 1996 son28 lights an old version of the edeluxe to full strength just walking the bike across the room. I have no experience with the deluxe version of the hub. I thought about upgrading last year, but decided to save my money for a new bike instead. Jay Hartman. On Tuesday, Octobe

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-22 Thread Jason Hartman
Just wondering, but if Soma can build a Rivendell designed lugged frame that sells for around $750, then why can't Riv do it themselves? They could even eliminate the superfluous second top tube and even save some money. I did a quick run through at Ben's Cycles website and came up with a decent (

Re: [RBW] Re: Non-Brifter Brifter (from Blug Post)

2011-11-28 Thread Jason Hartman
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:18 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > They seem (at first sight) very possibly a very good idea; my question > would rather be: if they are so good, why didn't someone think of these > before? Or, if someone did, why didn't they catch on? > > They have been thought of before. Se

Re: [RBW] DiagaBreeze

2011-06-16 Thread Jason Hartman
Joe Breeze is a pretty smart guy and after the first ten bikes he realized that the extra tubes were unnecessary. He switched to oversize tubing and never looked back. I think I read this in "The Birth of Dirt" by Frank Berto, but it may have been from somewhere else. There's more good Breezer info

Re: [RBW] Anything look odd on this Ram?

2011-05-20 Thread Jason Hartman
No wonder they did not like it. That is a terrible set up and I can't imagine anyone could be comfortable riding it as is. If anyone is interested, I would be happy to sell my Rambouillet set up with a pile of mismatched parts for the same $1200 Jay Hartman On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Dani

Re: [RBW] Follow up re WTB: 58 cm Rambouillet

2011-04-17 Thread Jason Hartman
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Michael Williams < mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Tim, I have a 59 Romulus frame for sale if you have any interest. Ive > read that its the same exact fram as the Ram, just different paint. > Thanks, -Mike > > They are similar, but not exactly the same.

Re: [RBW] Romulus geometry chart?

2011-04-15 Thread Jason Hartman
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Tim Whalen wrote: > > LOL! Thanks much Seth! Tim > > > > > and for comparison: > http://cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/ram_17.jpg > > I have not looked thoroughly in the web archive, but I think at some point the

Re: [RBW] Re: (Tall Riders) Rando Bags

2011-03-27 Thread Jason Hartman
Tom I'm sure you have put a lot of thought into your design. Why do you make the stem attachment part out of two pieces rather than one? Berthoud makes theirs that way because they have to be adjustable to fit on any bike, but yours are custom and made to order for a specific bike. Jay Hartman

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-18 Thread Jason Hartman
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:28 PM, benzzoy wrote: > I don't know if it's solely about the "over locknut" dimension. > Except for most Shimano cassette hubs, all other cassette hubs also > have the right side bearings (that supports the hub body) very close > to the centerline of the axle. > > Shim

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread Jason Hartman
it would be relatively easy to go from say 121 to 126 with an > adjustment of the derailers. > > > > On Feb 17, 9:45 am, Jason Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jason Hartman >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:2

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread Jason Hartman
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jason Hartman wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike > wrote: > >> Wow, that's great.I love the adjustable spacing too- to me that >> gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that mu

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub

2011-02-17 Thread Jason Hartman
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM, newenglandbike wrote: > Wow, that's great.I love the adjustable spacing too- to me that > gives it so much extra value for the $$, since it would be that much > easier to swap among bikes. > If it's already built into a wheel then you would have to re-dish ev

Re: [RBW] Phil Wood "IRD" FW hub and/or Shimano freewheel experiences?

2011-02-13 Thread Jason Hartman
Have you tried flushing the non working freewheels with solvent? It's pretty common for freewheels and even freehubs to stop working when they get really cold. The grease solidifies and keeps the pawls from catching. Jay Hartman On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean < thomaslynnsk.

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle comparison - Brooks B17 vs. Berthoud Touring

2011-01-09 Thread Jason Hartman
It's a problem with the saddle's design. If they don't want it pushed that far back, then they should make it so it does not go that far back. Say I came up with some new big water bottle that still fit in a regular cage, but could hold a gallon of water. Then I sold a bunch of them and some of th

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle comparison - Brooks B17 vs. Berthoud Touring

2011-01-09 Thread Jason Hartman
It's not the customer's fault if the saddle breaks or bends when being pushed back as far as it will go. If S-A does not want anyone doing it, they should make the adjustable part of the rails shorter. Jay Hartman On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Bill M. wrote: > Mike, > > The S-A can indeed b

Re: [RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?

2010-05-06 Thread Jason Hartman
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:46 AM, happyriding wrote: > On May 5, 9:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > I'm glad I got a 56 with the single tt. I can see any reason for two, > > neither looks nor durability. Odd. > > > > Maybe not on the 56, but as frames get larger they become more > susceptible to sh

Re: [RBW] Pink Mixte Le tour Project..

2010-04-23 Thread Jason Hartman
You might be able to file the hole for the centerbolt to allow for some vertical adjustment. Kind of like these Mafacs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/54878...@n00/4544396102/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/54878...@n00/4543765097/ If you do that in combination with filing the brake shoe slots, you

Re: [RBW] Re: Bonkers

2010-03-30 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > If it goes for $3K or so, and to someone who has always wanted one and now > has the money to buy it, *and will ride it*, hey, nothing wrong with > that. What a great bike out of the box to ride everywhere! But if it's > some collector who i

Re: [RBW] Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Christopher Paul wrote: > Greetings 2 all, > > Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also, > is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a > steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle? > > any thoughts on this will be appr

Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!

2010-03-27 Thread Jason Hartman
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration > as > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even > though > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT > studs

Re: [RBW] Re: Salsa Vaya aesthetics

2010-02-09 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Jon Grant wrote: > Mike wrote: > > Be sure to checkout Salsa's new Vaya model. Kinda like version of a SH/ > AHH, although a little more tour-worthy. > > --- > > Meh. Another straight fork. I understand that it works as well and takes > less effort and $$ than

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Custom

2010-01-17 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Brad Gantt wrote: > Just updated Flikr with a couple of shots Mark took of the bike post- > build. Just need to add pedals, bags, cages and I'm in business! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/17053...@n02/sets/72157623066924065/ > > I'm surprised Rivendell does not

Re: [RBW] Re: Wilbury F/F on ebay

2010-01-12 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:51 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > One thing that may keep the price down, at least among the Riv-(and > Mixte) uninitiated is the lack of a stand over measurement. There is > a block of would be eBay bike buyers who put huge stock in stand over > height when deciding whet

Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder Deal - Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-04 Thread Jason Hartman
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:45 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:50 PM, beth h wrote: > >> I love -- no, I ADORE -- the 26"/559 wheel size and I am sure I'm not >> alone. That is why I worried when I heard that the Atlantis might go >> away. The Atlantis is an absolute wet dre

Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder Deal - Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-04 Thread Jason Hartman
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:51 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > >> The great gap in 559 and 571 tires is in the high quality 25-30 mm range. > Will someone please, puh-lze make a Grand Bois in a 559X28? > > If you want them that badly, why don't you have them made. A tire mold from Panaracer costs

Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread Jason Hartman
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 PM, newenglandbike wrote: > I remember reading somewhere that the current Rivendell frames (that > are built at Waterford) use a combination of Reynolds 725 and True > Temper OX platinum tubing. I don't know about earlier frames like > the All-rounder though. > All

Re: [RBW] WAS: AT 0154 NOW: Sugino AT spindle length

2009-12-10 Thread Jason Hartman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Jon Grant wrote: > Cycletex asked: > > What spindle length are you looking for and are you going by the Sheldon > Brown suggestions for the AT? > > --- > > I put a Sugino AT on an old Schwinn World Voyageur last summer. The longest > BB I could find was 122.5

[RBW] Re: Question regarding Paul Center Pull brakes

2009-11-10 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Rene Sterental wrote: > I am noticing a significant amount of flex on my Silver sidepull brakes on > the AHH. The flex itself is not important to me, but it seems to me I have > to pull the leverss really hard in order to get the bike to stop, and the > flex just

[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread Jason Hartman
any times, can't remember not knowing what it > was. > > > On Oct 9, 10:17 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 10:05 -0400, Jason Hartman wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, newenglandbike > > > wrote: > > > > &g

[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-10-09 Thread Jason Hartman
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, newenglandbike wrote: > > You've never seen a lugged crown fork?Are you new to bicycling? > > If you look here: http://www.henryjames.com/productlug.html and here: http://www.ceeway.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/Cast%20Fork%20Crowns.htm and here: http://www.cycle-frame

[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-09-30 Thread Jason Hartman
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 9/30/09 11:07 AM, Jason Hartman at rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, CycloFiend > wrote: > > > on 9/30/09 6:17 AM, Jason Hartman at rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-09-30 Thread Jason Hartman
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > on 9/30/09 6:17 AM, Jason Hartman at rjasonhart...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I'm not sure what you are asking. > > I have never seen a fork with a lug. > > Bridgestone MB's had fork tip lugs - > http://

[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-09-30 Thread Jason Hartman
Hi Jay, > > > > Are you referring to the lugs used on the fork or on the head tube? > > > > Rene > > > > *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Hartman > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009

[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne

2009-09-29 Thread Jason Hartman
I never really gave these frames a close look before. The colors are fine, but why the different lugs? If you are going to go through all the trouble involved with having a lugged frame made in Taiwan, the least you could do is specify lugs that match. Jay Hartman On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM,