Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Williamson
That's good to hear about the 'budget' Jones frameset and the Schwalbe Super Motos. I'd love to see pictures of your bike. It sounds like a beautiful stealth speedster. I have a lot of fun riding with the lunchtime crowd on bikes that *look* like they're hugely disadvantaged, but actually are

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-25 Thread jimmy johnsen
You can find a photo of my Jones about 2/3 down on this page. It's set up for mtn. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cycle-Monkey/304605066248161 On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:54 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: That's good to hear about the 'budget' Jones frameset

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-24 Thread hobie
Just spoke to Jeff about THE LONE RANGER. He wouldn't tell me if it's happening. I think it will. I own one of his Diamond frames w. unicrown fork. Possibly the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. It's also a super fast road bike, great do it all frameset. Use it with a Knard up front for

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-17 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Jim, I have to agree that the long tail-mixte-29er+-funky fork bike is drool worthy! While not a 29+ platform this prototype by Ahearne is pretty sweet looking: http://www.ahearnecycles.com/blog/2011/1/20/off-road-touring-mixte.html (Kind of like if a Betty for mixed up with a Bombadil!) Tony

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Daume
Sometimes close enough is good enough. What could you do on the hypothetical Riv that you couldn't do on the ECR? Eric taking my new Krampus out for its first ride in about an hour Daume Dublin, OH On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a serious drool

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Platt
Maybe putting on narrower tires. The ECR is designed for 3 wide tires and still have a low-ish bottom bracket. At least one early review stated putting 2.4 tires made the bottom bracket too low for some off-road riding. Was really tempted on the ECR. Went for an Ogre. Less expensive and will

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
With respect, that makes as much sense as saying Surly makes the Long Haul Trucker. That's close enough so there is no need for the Atlantis because you can do everything on the LHT you can do on the Atlantis. Surly HAS to be good enough because there isn't a Riv. 29er+. Given the choice, I'd

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Leslie
On Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:38:54 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: With respect, that makes as much sense as saying Surly makes the Long Haul Trucker. That's close enough so there is no need for the Atlantis because you can do everything on the LHT you can do on the Atlantis. Surly HAS

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Daume
BB drop on the ECR is 80mm, same as my old first gen Fargo. That was low, but singletrack riding was still possible and fun--just time your pedal rotations in the worst spots. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe putting on narrower tires. The ECR is

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The Pacer/LHT/Cross-check frames from Surly are functionally similar to several Riv models, past and present. Beyond that, the Surly and Riv offerings don't have much overlap. Riv has its niche, which has some pretty clear boundaries. Meanwhile, Surly has spent most of its history giving us

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Clayton
Well, this is a RIVENDELL group What could I do with a Riv 29+ that I couldn't do with an ECR? Drool on it.Surly is nice, but doesn't make me drool or lust like a Riv. (Ironic juxtaposition, surly is nice)... On Sunday, February 16, 2014 3:37:37 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote: Sometimes

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Mike
Agreed. On Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:17:13 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: The Pacer/LHT/Cross-check frames from Surly are functionally similar to several Riv models, past and present. Beyond that, the Surly and Riv offerings don't have much overlap. Riv has its niche,

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Anne Paulson
The bottom bracket issue is one reason I got the Krampus instead of the ECR. The Krampus has a much higher bottom bracket, so I can run 2.15 with no fear. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe putting on narrower tires. The ECR is designed for 3 wide

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Anne Paulson
The ECR and the Krampus are the kinds of bikes that a lot of Rivendell riders would like. And so that made me think that Rivendell might want to go in that direction. But I'll accept Jim Thill's word that from a design point of view, it would be difficult for Rivendell to make a 29+ bike that both

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I understand the drool factor. I don't drool for Rivs like I used to, but I get it. I also understand that Surly doesn't go to great lengths to add visual pizzazz to their frames. Their beauty is in brilliant ideas and engineering...things they don't even market, like the Disc Trucker rear

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Hudson Doerge
Also, Hunq's with 622 wheels have the same 80mm bb drop so difference there re problems running smaller tires on the ECR vs. the Hunq. On Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:26:04 AM UTC-6, Eric Daume wrote: BB drop on the ECR is 80mm, same as my old first gen Fargo. That was low, but singletrack

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-16 Thread Shaun Meehan
I don't know. I've seen Thill's ECR up-close and in person and it's one of the most drool worthy bikes I can remember seeing in a long time! Shaun Meehan On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Hudson Doerge htdoe...@yahoo.com wrote: Also, Hunq's with 622 wheels have the same 80mm bb drop so

[RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-15 Thread Clayton
I have a serious drool going over the Surly ECR 29+ off road camping bike. Now, if Rivendell made such a bike, I would absolutely have to sell everything I own and get one. Hint Hint Grant? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] A Rivendell 29+ Camping bike.

2014-02-15 Thread Anne Paulson
Since I started looking into a bike with wde tires for bikepacking, I've thought a 29+ would make sense for Rivendell. 29+ such a Rivvy sort of thing. I'm going to be using my Krampus 29+ for camping. I'm already planning the first trip. Within a week of its arrival (whenever that is)