Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread Patrick Moore
It's still puzzling; why is a girl's name offensive? Beats me! Weird. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:59 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > The knicker-twisting was not about the drop frame itself, but that it was > given a "girl's" name, and therefo

Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
The knicker-twisting was not about the drop frame itself, but that it was given a "girl's" name, and therefore perpetuated (harmful, offensive, presumptive, restricting??) stereotypes about...not sure what. In any case, Clementine the fruit is named after Brother Clément Rodier, with the femini

Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread Patrick Moore
What is wrong with "girls' bikes"? (That question is general, not directed to Mark.) That seems a strange thing to twist knickers. (Male and female knickers, that is.) I personally have no use for a drop frame bicycle -- well, if I had a dedicated, short distance grocery bike, I'd probably prefer

Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, the step-through is great for rear child seats and lots of other town riding situations. Another plus the Clem L has is a nice low bar, whereas the large Cheviot is pretty up there and will require more of a lean. And as Justin points out, the Chev is also a long wheelbase bike. I hear you

Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread Justin August
Don't forget that the Cheviot also has an extended wheelbase. I don't know the precise numbers but it is longer than the Betty Foys for sure. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread Edwin W
Steve, That is how you CAN fit a bike into an elevator, but I know that just rolling into an elevator is much easier than tilting it up each time. Especially if it is like my bikes: loaded down with bags and doo dads and long fenders in the rear. And I don't even have the super cool Velo Lumino

Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 04/14/2016 07:18 AM, Alan Lavine wrote: Hi Mark, I live in an apartment in Manhattan and I find the Clem is a large bike for our elevators The way you get a tandem into an elevator is to rear is up vertically, rolling on the back wheel and letting the front wheel flop over sideways. Th

Re: [RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-14 Thread Alan Lavine
Hi Mark, I live in an apartment in Manhattan and I find the Clem is a large bike for our elevators and a little inconvenient to keep in an apartment, so I was thinking that a more “standard” sized bike would be easier to deal with. The step through feature is easier when carrying a child on the

[RBW] FS-59 cm Clem Smith Jr H, green, with apologies to GP

2016-04-13 Thread alan lavine
Hi All, It pains me to do this, but its become apparent that I purchased the wrong bike. I should have gotten the Cheviot for the kind of riding I use this for. This is a stock build Clem with less than 100 miles tops, used only on pavement in NYC, primarily to take the grandkids for rides on