We don't disagree; it's just that you said, "It felt so stable on the 42s
and the level of vibration goes down tremendously.* Because you don't feel
the road vibrations as much you think you are going slowly, but you are
really going much faster than you might think."*. All I was saying is that
I don't know Patrick. What you seem to be saying is that you don't equate
vibrations with speed, and that's great, but I am not sure you understand
what I am trying to convey:
If you ride your bike for hundreds of miles with a setup, you get used to
the hum of the road the vibrations that come
My point is that vibration has nothing to do with the sensation of speed,
for me and for many others. Those tires feel fast to me, be they fat or
thin, which appear to let me maintain a given cadence in given conditions
in a given gear; greater plushness adds to the feeling of speed.
I go back
I'm talking about the eye-opening experience of taking a good 700c x 32 mm
setup and converting that same ride/frame into a 650b x 42 mm setup. It's
taking a very familiar ride and giving it a totally new experience. If
you've ridden wide supple tires like this before, then perhaps you wouldn't
Many riders I know, myself among them, don't associate vibration with
speed; in fact, I assocate vibration with slowness and plushness with speed
-- Elk Passes at 55 versus Pro Race 4s at 90. I think this idea originated
in a guess by Jan Heine back when he was first promoting the speed benefits
The frame I had is a 54 cm (C-T) frame. It felt so stable on the 42s and
the level of vibration goes down tremendously. Because you don't feel the
road vibrations as much you think you are going slowly, but you are really
going much faster than you might think.
Toshi
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at
Wow Toshi, that came out looking great. Bet it rides like a dream on those
42s.
What size frame is yours?
Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:39:37 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote:
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> Hi Bill, I used a Tektro R559 for the conversion. I have some pictures
> showing my blue
Hi Bill, I used a Tektro R559 for the conversion. I have some pictures
showing my blue ram with Synergy rims and Grand Bois Hetre tires (42 mm
650b).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/sets/72157631926815235/with/8154499211/
Best,
Toshi
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Bill in Roswell
If I rode in Keens the TCO would prob go away! But cleated cycling shoes
tend to have traditional toe box. No worries, the TCO is worse on my other
bikes!
Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 12:35:46 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Size 44 shoes.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1,
Thanks, Patrick. The TCO isn't bad and only realized in parking lot turns.
I hear what you say about fenders allowing the tip of the show to slide
instead of catching tire. I have an old Bridgestone setup like that and
your comment jogged my memory!
Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA
On Tuesday,
Toshi, did you use Tektro 556 brakes on your Ram 650B conversion? That you
could run 42mm tires is enlightening!
Look forward to seeing pics of your new ride!
Cheers,
Bill in Roswell GA
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 7:57:53 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote:
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> Hi Bill,
>
> Congrats on your Ram. It's a
Size 44 shoes.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Regarding fenders and TCO: YMMV, and I am not recommending this, but FWIW:
> I found that narrow aluminum fenders on a short f-c urban fixed gear
> actually caused my feet to slip off the front wheel
Bill: Contratulations, and please post the statutory photos.
I used Ultegra/Open Pro/29 mm Parigi Roubaixs on my Ram and it was indeed a
fun ride.
Regarding fenders and TCO: YMMV, and I am not recommending this, but FWIW:
I found that narrow aluminum fenders on a short f-c urban fixed gear
Hi Bill,
Congrats on your Ram. It's a great bike! You can convert to 650b and that
almost eliminates the TCO, but not entirely. I could run 42 mm with
fenders on the 650b Ram. With that said, though, I did end up selling my
Ram to a group member and getting a custom which should be finished
Bobs and Rivs,
A big thanks to Bill Hammond for the "long term loan" of his metallic pearl
orange Rambouillet, size 54. I've been watching on here for years waiting
on an orange Ram in my size. Wonder of wonders, Bill put his up for sale
just down the road a couple of hours away. Bill still
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