Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

Thanks. Sorry your trip got rained on. Now that I have a spare Carradice saddlebag, I might just try it on the back of the Rivendell to balance the (usually overflowing) loads in the front panniers. On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Bob K. wrote: > Patrick Moore requested a

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

This is a pretty good summary of much that gets discussed on this and other lists, but it's fun, nonetheless, to fret about details you now see, and which, before, you blissfully ignored. Still, I do recall bikes that handled rear loads better than others, and those were not by any means the most

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

I definitely don't favor front loads on a Riv. Besides touring, my regular commuting or day-trip load is comprised of a large saddlebag and maybe a small front handlebar bag - real small, nothing remotely needing a front rack or support of any kind. Recently I've begun experimenting with frame

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

I agree with Bob K that every load on a bike will affect handling somehow. Which compromise we settle for boils down to personal choice. On my Riv Road, a modest (~15-20 lbs) rear load gives the bike a "tail wagging the dog" problem. That same load in a front rando bag gives ponderous steering.

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

Aesthetics, I'm guessing, at least when talking about baskets (and you weren't - grin) To my eye, a lone rear basket makes a bike look unbalancedthough of course the handling is improved by putting the load in the rear. Baskets front and rear is better maybe? Dunno. Lone front basket

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

Please do send a photo. I expect that even 10 lb in the rear would regain some of the "balance". I'm curious why you (all) favor front loads on a Rivendell frame, instead of rear loads. I have no touring experience (just plenty of grocery hauling experience), but my "instinct" is to load the

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

I’m not sure as to the actual weight that I’ve loaded up front in lowriders on my Sam for tours, but it’s been significant, and almost definitely 20ish+ pounds. The handling is slower, yes, but is there a bike that doesn’t handle more slowly with 20-25 pounds in front panniers? It would

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

"Overly stable" describes the feeling well. It's not horrible, and I can see getting used to it, say, on a tour, but I do wonder about emergency handling if you have to dodge a pothole or auto pulling out from the side. I've ridden a low trail bike (Kogswell Porteur) with front load, briefly --

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

I've carried ~25-30 lbs on a front Nitto Campee lowrider rack on my '97 Riv Road Standard. At that weight, the front is resistant to turn; it's "over-stable". However, I liked that feeling for long road tour days. It meant I could ride no-hands, which my bike was normally a little too twitchy

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

I had front and rear racks custom made for the 2003 Road, so that I could load front and rear, but I never get around to shopping with both, always one or the other. I generally don't ride more than 10 miles with such loads, so it's not a *real* problem. Back when I had a canti Sam, I had

Re: [RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

My recollection is that my tour load for my Sam for the front Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus Tara was in the 35 lbs range and that the Sam wanted at least some type of weight on the back to accompany that front load if I wanted it to behave reasonably, which I had, so no problem. My loose rule for

[RBW] How heavy a front load on lowriders on a Rivendell road bike?

I often install the front (Ortlieb Sports Packers) on the '03 Road for a grocery run to Corrales, and end up buying enough to fill most of the rear Roller Packers. I manage to stuff it all in, somehow, but I've carried as much as 35 lb between the 2 fronts, and the bike doesn't like it -- it