[RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Mark Reimer
I've been riding albatross bars for the last few months after more than a year on dirt drops, and I decided it was time for a change. Alba's are awesome in the city, but I found the upright position a bit inhibiting for bigger and longer efforts. With fall coming up, I've got some longer rides

[RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Your Atlantis looks great Mark! I like the non-aero levers to. Bar change must be in the air.. I've been riding with alba's on my Saluki for over a year now and have been getting itchy to put Noodles back on. I almost started last night but ended up messing around with my XO3 instead (moustach

[RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-16 Thread IanA
What width are the Noodles? I have had 42cm and currently have 44cm and 46cm. The 46 are great on the hoods, but the drops are deep. The 44s are great in the drops and there's enough real estate on the top of the bars. I've found all three sizes that I've tried to be excellent. Ian A/canada

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread René Sterental
Any reason for going with non-aero brake levers? I 'm considering them for my custom to try them for the look/personality, but just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder to use from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm and braking is better from the drop

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Mark Reimer
René, a few reasons for those levers, with the main reason being that I had them kicking around, and didn't have any non-aero levers available. But beyond that, I think there is some aesthetic value there. The classic non-aero levers really look nice with a Rivendell in my opinion. You are correct

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I never got that one, other than maybe some don't have the hand strength to pull the lever completely from the hood position, which I guess takes a bit more muscle. I have non-aero on both my current drop setups and have never had an issue with braking from the hoods. The brake doesn't know wher

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
Rene said that he: " just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder to use from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm and braking is better from the drops" Jan is absolutely right and it's all just math. The pivot for non-aero "traditional" brake levers

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/15/2016 02:55 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Rene said that he: " just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder to use from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm and braking is better from the drops" Jan is absolutely right and it's all just math. Th

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/15/2016 02:26 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: I never got that one, other than maybe some don't have the hand strength to pull the lever completely from the hood position, which I guess takes a bit more muscle. It's not "hand strength," it's more like "finger strength.

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Ryan Fleming
And this is where I love those groovy TRP levers. I can brake easily from the hoods or the drops...they are sinfully comfortable and they really work well ...esp. combined with the VO Grand Cru brakes which replaced the old Campy Super Record brakes and levers. On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 1

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/15/2016 02:23 PM, Mark Reimer wrote: René, a few reasons for those levers, with the main reason being that I had them kicking around, and didn't have any non-aero levers available. But beyond that, I think there is some aesthetic value there. The classic non-aero levers really look nice w

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread René Sterental
I will give the non-aero levers a try just to experience the difference and decide if I leave them or switch to the aero ones like I have on the other bikes with drop bars. Haven't used those since I was 16-17! Back when I didn't even know frames came in different sizes and just rode a bike I was l

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
Always keep a couple rolls of Eggplant Newbaums on hand for the ROYAL TREATMENT. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA " I do think the Atlantis looks better with drops and that bartape!" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubs

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I've asked this question before in another context, but I'll ask it again here, since the general question has been raised: if non-aero levers require more force on the hoods, *not* because of the shape of the lever, but because the leverage is less favorable, then: Doesn't this mean that non-aero

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/15/2016 07:21 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I've asked this question before in another context, but I'll ask it again here, since the general question has been raised: if non-aero levers require more force on the hoods, /not/ because of the shape of the lever, but because the leverage is les

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Steve Palincsar wrote: It's not "hand strength," it's more like "finger strength." From the hoods you really don't get to use your more powerful hand muscles. My hand consists mainly of a bunch of fingers. See here:

Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Got it; thanks. On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 08/15/2016 07:21 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I've asked this question before in another context, but I'll ask it again > here, since the general question has been raised: if non-aero levers > require more force on