Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-08 Thread Harry Travis
Has anyone else found differences in Q and chainline among the 50.4 cranksets? I swapped in a Sugino PX with shorter crank arms in for a V-O, and found less clearance to the chainstays on both sides- at least 2mm per side. I prefer the look of the rare Sugino, and sorted front derailleur

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-07 Thread 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Really hard decision overall. I ended up ordering the SUNXCD cranks in 172.5 and 46/30 from veloduo. I really wanted 44/30 or 44/28 but that range was out of stock. I almost went for the cloverleaf chainring version as they had the gear range I wanted but I

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-07 Thread Jim Bronson
Yes, I'm currently running chainrings without ramps and pins with a 10 speed cassette and indexed shifting in the back. No issues, or at least, nothing that's an issue for me. I don't have the 50.4BCD setup (and would not be interested in acquiring it as my body requires high Q) as per the

[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-07 Thread lconley
I have the Rene Herse 42/26 (ramped and pinned) on my Rivendell Custom (11 speed), the VO with VO single chainring on the Betty Foy (9 speed) and Sun XCD with VO single chainring on my Mystery Bike/Protovelo/Protopaloosa (single speed). The finish on the Rene Herse and the Sun XCD are

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-06 Thread Patrick Moore
15 years ago or so when I regularly commuted across town by bike, and before I went full-fixed-gear, I used a very nice pseudo half-step system with either 48/45 or 47/44 Sugino chainrings and a (IIRC) 13-32 7 speed cassette, for a downhill gear, a bailout gear, and nice close ratios in the

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-06 Thread Peter White
On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 11:03 PM Peter Adler wrote: > Aside from 39T inners on 130/135 BCD cranks, does *any* manufacturer > offer odd toothcount chainrings as a regular stock item these days? > > Peter Adler > Berkeley, CA/USA > I have them from TA and Stronglight, though not for every bolt

[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-05 Thread Peter Adler
Aside from 39T inners on 130/135 BCD cranks, does *any* manufacturer offer odd toothcount chainrings as a regular stock item these days? Peter Adler Berkeley, CA/USA On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 5:06:35 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote: > One and only one supplier and no odd tooth count rings are

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-05 Thread Patrick Moore
*Very* good to know. On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 5:25 AM Peter White wrote: > We stock all of the Pro 5 Vis chainrings as well as the hardware. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-05 Thread J L
Just a point of clarity here: Rene Herse and Grand Bois are two distinct companies (RH did sell Grand Bois products in the past) Grand Bois sell SUNXCD cranks and compatible rings. > On Jun 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > >  > oops, its only 3x cranks

[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-05 Thread Bill Schairer
I've been running 3x9 with a TA crank and a Stronglight for years without any issues. I also ran 3x10 for a while. Currently have 47/44/26 TA and 50/45/26 Stronglight (with TA rings) and they both shift quite well with no ramps and pins. What are those for? I think the Stronglight arms *had

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-05 Thread Peter White
On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 11:43 PM Peter Adler wrote: > I believe Velo Classique in Virginia is the US distributor for Specialites > TA. > -- We've been importing Specialites TA products for the past 5 years, and distributing their products to bike shops all over the US and Canada. We stock all

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-05 Thread Peter Adler
The key things to remember with 50.4 hardware are that the bolts are fragile, and the wavy lockwashers are worthless. Be gentle with the hex spanner, and generous with the blue Loctite. VO's hardware is definitely more rugged (as I'm confident TA's current hardware is as well - the

Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Peter: Thanks for posting this; good to know that TA is still making 50.4 bcd rings. I have a minor stash of old Pro 5 Vis arms and, while I'd eagerly trade one for a RH crank with rings of my liking, I do find them almost perfect for my wants (well, would happily replace the hardware with some

[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-04 Thread Peter Adler
Forgot those links: https://specialites-ta.com/pro-5-vis/196-693-pro-5-vis-plateau-specialites-ta-pro-5-vis-exterieur-80mm-8v-specialites-ta-pl50080302.html#/21,denture,40-dts

[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-04 Thread Peter Adler
Large selection of chainring sizes? *C'est très humoristique!* Specialites TA (still in business; still producing 50.4mm cyclotouriste chainrings in France, now in 7075 aluminum) make outers (attaches to crankarm) in all even increments from 40-52T, and inners (attaches to outers) from 26-42T.

[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-04 Thread David Person
I went with the Rene Herse cranks when I built up my Sam due to the large selection of chainring sized (I went with 44/28). The Sun XCD cranks weren't around at the time, though I do run a XCD rear derailleur. The 7075 chainrings (VO and RH) may be a harder alloy than the 6066 on the XCD.

[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

2021-06-04 Thread 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch
oops, its only 3x cranks not 4x like it suggests above. Should be: Velo Orange Grand Cru, vs SUNXCD vs Rene Herse Grand Bois On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote: > > Looking at a fancy crankset to put on my Sam. > > What are folks opinions of these models that are