[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-28 Thread Ablejack
'nother vote for the Grand Bois Lierre. My brother rides and loves them on his randonneuse- he used to ride Pari-motos too. But if you can fit Rumpkins (a fat 40), you probably can fit Hetres (a slim 42) as well. /I ride clunky old (40mm) Schwalbe Marathon- not sexy, not fast, not fixing

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I have 1,592 flat free miles on my 1st set of P-Ms so far. They won't be a high mileage tire, but they are fun to ride. I didn't see a mention yet, but Maxy Fasty (33.4 mm or so) tires are a plausible alternative. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:00 PM, RonaTD teddur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 27,

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-28 Thread Matthew J
Soma Xpress - Riv sells them - are not sluggish and are very durable. Not as plush as the Grand Bois, mind you, but decent tires nonetheless. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11:42 AM UTC-5, RJM wrote: I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam. I have been having a problem

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread Earl Grey
The obvious choice are Grand Bois Hetres (42mm). Super low rolling resistance and pretty low weight, fat enough for serious off-roading, seem to last 3-5000 miles (if memory of other people's posts serves). Best tire ever made, IMHO. If you really want to go skinny, go Grand Bois Cypres (32mm).

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread William
The Grand Bois Lierre also seems to get a lot of love. I've been very impressed with the Soma 650x38 tires. I have lots of miles on the New Express which is their flat resistant version. I guess it should ride badly since it has a reinforced casing, but I've found it to be a very nice

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread Esteban
Lierres, hands down. Nearly the same ride quality of the Hetres, with a little less volume for dirt (that's where I think the Hetres are especially good), but good enough. And they'll fit under fenders no problem. I've really enjoyed them on the Protovelo:

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread rcnute
I've heard of tire liners but never used them. Anyone tried these? I wonder if they would help with Pari-Motos. Ryan On Mar 27, 12:53 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 08:11 -0700, RJM wrote: I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam.  I

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 13:26 -0700, rcnute wrote: I've heard of tire liners but never used them. Anyone tried these? I wonder if they would help with Pari-Motos. I've never used them either, but I've always heard how badly they affect ride. As for any flat protection qualities, I myself never

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread RonaTD
On Mar 27, 11:49 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I love, love the Pari-motos - but they're not an everyday tire.  Light as a feather, and built that way too. I'm only one data point, but I've done a solo 600k, a 400k brevet, and a whole lot of daily commuting on a pair of Pari Motos

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread RonaTD
On Mar 27, 8:00 pm, RonaTD teddur...@gmail.com wrote: am having a dickens of a itinerary getting them to mount straight on Velocity rims. Argh. iOS spell correction and aging eyesight. Sorry about that. I meant a dickens of a time, not itinerary. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread Burton
I've got Hetres on my Sam with fenders and they are fantastic. I get about 5,000 miles out of them, with very few flats, maybe one every 2,000 miles on the pair. I ride on the shoulder with the road debris, on single track, whatever, and they're just about perfect in everything but deep mud. I

[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.

2012-03-27 Thread RJM
Thanks everybody for the comments. I really like the Pari Motos, they are fast tires and feel great, I can't really say I have had any issues with the handling or performance. I have a brand new set of Pari Motos sitting in the bike room, but may keep them for events like some longer