[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-11 Thread Wilson Wilson
When it comes to front load whether be a Riv or not, placement to the headtube or hub are key. Even with a basket and high trail, placement matters relative to how high stacked above or below the top tube. Then is that load close to the headtube or not. My best practice no matter the trail is

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-09 Thread Will M
I have a 1990s Cannondale adventure tourer with low-trail fork. With the low riders (and front panniers), it's as stable as a motorcycle, no matter how much I overload the rear panniers . Influenced by Grant's

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-07 Thread J J
This is such an interesting thread. I found myself nodding my head reading John Rinker's note. I bought my Hunq new in 2012, and I never thought about trail per se until 3 or 4 years ago when it seemed trail was in the air, everywhere I turned, and everyone was talking about it. Maybe it's

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-07 Thread ascpgh
I loaded my Rambouillet with a Caradice Nelson Longflap when new to do a credit card camping take on the TranAm/Western Flyer route from Norfolk, VA to SF, CA via Pueblo, CO starting in early May. It was perfect, although I could see being a bit more prepared for contingencies (more stuff)

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-06 Thread Berkeleyan
Here's some discussion on lower rake, and consequences for handling. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/1164491-people-who-have-had-forks-re-raked-lower-tr-do-you-notice-lowered-front-end-2.html My custom Rohlhoffer Diagatube frame has a re-raked RBW fork, and we did that specifically

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-06 Thread Brian Turner
I thought it might be somewhat pertinent to the discussion to link to this article about low-trail bikes and handling. Written by James from Analog Cycles a couple years back when it seemed like everyone was desiring a low-trail frame: https://analogcycles.com/pages/debunking-low-trail While

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-05 Thread Joe Bernard
My extremely biased view is Rivs aren't built for heavy front loads and I just won't anymore, it feels unweildy and unsafe. Can it be done anyway? Sure. By people who aren't me. On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 6:14:37 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > Just curious, after adjusting my Ortlieb

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-05 Thread Garth
Back in the day I had a nice front bag that had a coated steel loop-over-stem frame that the bag slid in to. For vertical stability it had 2 elastic cords that attached to the fork eyelets. It didn't rely on anything to keep it in place in the frame with it's L at the end that the bag slid in

Re: [RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-05 Thread John Moore
Aww, that 80’s vintage Fuji Royale wasn’t so bad as long as you distributed weight properly - about double weight in front compared to back. What was scary were the descents with those side pull road brakes - seriously outmatched for a weighted Royale. How do I know this? 5+ months touring

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-05 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Patrick Have you tried any loads *split* between the front and the rear??? Say 15# in front and 30# in rear?? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 9:14:37 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Just curious, after adjusting my Ortlieb Sports Packers to the front >

[RBW] Re: Advantages of front loading

2022-09-05 Thread Chris Halasz
Just a month or so ago I transitioned from front-loading to rear-loading on my Riv after asking myself the same question. Moving that ten pound load from a front basket to the rear, complemented by my (typically one-sided only) Ortlieb pannier, makes the bike feel so much better! Note the