Re: [RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-11 Thread Liesl
The news is good. I have the within-normal-range-of-wear-and-tear-for-55-year-old knees and an oddly shaped patella/knee cap. Physical therapy to strengthen my quads, letting pain be my guide for activity. Back in the saddle and the knee is improving. Still pain in about the last inch of

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great news! Strength is key, so definitely look into squats (I prefer a few weighted, slow squats to many faster unweighted ones, though you have to work up to that). With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
So happy to hear good news. it sounds like you are proceeding in a carefully and care fully kind of way. Hope you are back to normal soon. Michael On Monday, August 11, 2014 12:41:28 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: The news is good. I have the within-normal-range-of-wear-and-tear-for-55-year-old

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-05 Thread ascpgh
Liesl, This is not a mutually exclusive pair of afflictions (torn meniscus and bicycling). I had a pretty bad knee injury that among other damage on the surgeon's list included a meniscus tear. They did clip a portion but felt in that the long term I'd fare better if thy didn't clip all of the

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-05 Thread Cecily Walker
Ye gods. I've had a torn meniscus (on top of all my other knee wonkery). It isn't fun, but luckily the surgery -- if you go that route -- is outpatient, and you should be riding again in about 3-4 weeks after surgery. Limping in solidarity, Cecily On Monday, August 4, 2014 4:11:55 PM UTC-7,

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-05 Thread Tim McNamara
I too had a torn medial meniscus repaired arthroscopically in 2005. The procedure itself was very quick, probably no more than half an hour, and in my case I was starting to ride the bike after about six weeks. Since then I have had no trouble with it and have been very comfortable. I was able

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-04 Thread Liesl
Well, pain hasn't subsided after all this time so I went to the doctor. The tentative diagnosis is a torn meniscus. MRI tomorrow morning and an appointment with a sports medicine MD to determine whether I should do PT or have surgery. Over the weekend I talked with Vince at Riv about saddle

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-04 Thread Abcyclehank
Liesl, Looking back on your original post everyone came though exactly as desired and expected. Unfortunately advice occasionally contradicted even the ever wise Deacon and the extremely intelligent Michael. Even Grant himself weighed in with a logical possibility. Fortunately you are moving

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-04 Thread Liesl
Good question, Ryan! I would say that while initially I felt the pain to be on the outside/front of my knee, just now it seems more on the inside front just below the kneecap. The knee has been buckling, they felt a lot of fluid under the kneecap, and the pain is punctuated (she says with a

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-01 Thread Mark Reimer
I had the same thing happen to me two seasons ago and it kept me off the bike for nearly 3 months in a knee brace. I was going on my first s240, maybe 160km round trip, and decided to put my brooks on my cross bike, which had a zero setback post. I should note, up until this date I had never

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-08-01 Thread Kevin M
Hi Liesl, It's not just a saddle height thing, it's also a saddle setback thing. If I recall correctly, you're riding a Riv with some major setback from a really slack seat tube. Is that right? A common metric for measuring correct saddle position puts the front of the knee directly above the

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-07-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Why do you think Grant carries hatchets? Grin. I'm no help for what may or may not work on the bike. However, what you describe sounds like condramylagia (sp?), which I got growing up and had two surgeries for by the time I was 17. Basically, the cartilage under the knee cap is tearing. Here

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-07-31 Thread Mattt
I had knee pain and I found I needed to stretch my Iliotibial band (otherly known as the IT Band). An internet search of IT band stretches will provide plenty of variety. Try stretching it out before and after rides. It is a free solution that might work. Matt -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Hechmer
Whatever else is going on, it is probably swollen, even if not visibly. Start with cold packs to reduce that. Pain is nature's way of telling us to stop. Heed it. Consult with a really good (do your research) physical therapist or chiropractor might be your second response. Be kind to you

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-07-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! No! R.I.C.E. does nothing but inhibit the body's natural healing mechanisms (increased blood flow to bring nourishment and haul away the refuse). The inventor of R.I.C.E. essentially calls it bunk.

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-07-31 Thread grant
Dang, I just tried to send a response with lotsa detail, and it crashed and I lost it, so here's the short versionL Raise you saddle to compensate for the pedal height diff. You aren't getting enough leg extension, and consequently the back of your kneecap is rubbing on the cartilage and

[RBW] Re: Advice needed on knee pain (yet another thread)

2014-07-31 Thread redsydude
I have a very similar pain and I think it would just heal but for a knee high Australian shepherd that crashes into me 200 times a day. On Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:39:18 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hi Friends, I looked back at previous threads, most notably the link below on short cranks and