[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-10 Thread Joe Bernard
This is correct about stock Appaloosa builds, there's been some confusion in this thread about which Claris derailer he has. I saw a pic and he indeed has the double, which you can see in my attached pic has an indentation on the leading edge of the outer cage plate. This setup on the Appa with

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-10 Thread Roberta
I sent a video and got this response (slightly edited) : "It looks like you have the derailleur that's designed for the double chainring crankset, but it's being used with a triple chainring crankset. I thought this was what I saw in the photos I saw on-line." In case someone else would need t

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-09 Thread dirtp
John - Thanks very much. I think a 9-speed chain is about 0.5 mm narrower than an 8-speed chain. That might be just enough to solve the problem. On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 8:53:34 PM UTC-4, John Casteen wrote: > > Jason, > > I can't add anything directly to the good replies already, but here's >

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-09 Thread dirtp
Roberta - Sure, pics would be great! On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 8:24:09 AM UTC-4, Roberta wrote: > > I have what I think is an 2016 Appaloosa. If you'd like any pictures or > measurements, I'd be happy to help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RB

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-09 Thread Roberta
I have what I think is an 2016 Appaloosa. If you'd like any pictures or measurements, I'd be happy to help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-09 Thread dirtp
Thanks everyone for your assistance. I have a Schwinn Cimarron from 1986 with a triple chainring and a Shimano Deerhead front derailleur. It has a flat exterior cage, as opposed to the new Shimano FDs, which bulge out on the outside. It's that bulge that's catching the crank arm. The old Deerhe

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-09 Thread Nick Payne
I can remember having that problem about 40 years ago on a tandem using Stronglight 99 tandem cranks and a Suntour triple FD, though there the inside of the stokers crank was actually brushing the derailleur cage in top gear. After thinking about it for a while, I figured that my 52kg wife and

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-08 Thread John Casteen
Jason, I can't add anything directly to the good replies already, but here's another data point. I've got the same frame, crank, and derailer you're working on, but with a 9-speed cassette and chain. On the small cog and big chainring, the trailing face of the derailer is within .5mm of the

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-08 Thread dirtp
Garth - I just looked at some pictures of the original complete Appaloosas, and it looks by the length of the front FD cage that they used the 2x8 version. I'll give Riv a call to confirm and maybe try that. Thanks! On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 6:50:00 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > > With straight c

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-08 Thread dirtp
Thanks, Garth. If I can't fix it through positioning, maybe I'll try the Claris 2x8 FD. The specs for the complete bike just say Claris FD, not whether it's 2x8 or 3x8. I just assumed it would be the 3x8 with a triple crank. On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 6:50:00 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > > With

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-08 Thread dirtp
Thanks, Collin. The current BB is 110. I thought that might be it, too, but after discussing it with Vince, it seems like I would have the same problem with a narrower BB, since the problem seems to be the distance between the outer chainring and the crank arm, which wouldn't change with a new B

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-08 Thread Garth
With straight crank arms and FD's clearances are always tight. At best you play with the FD angle and height so when fully extended it clears the arms and the big ring. It's really finding a sweet spot. Also, if the rings are not running true, in this case the outer, then you can end up with

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-08 Thread dirtp
Joe - That could be it, although this is the same crank/FD combination that was sold on the original completes, except they used a 9-speed chain and cassette. But my other bike has a Deore XT 9-speed FD, and it seems to do the same thing. I talked to Vince at Rivendell yesterday, and he said t

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-07 Thread Collin A
If the solutions above don't work, it may require a shorter spindled BB that would bring the whole crank closer to the bike ($30-ish). If the current one is 113, you could get a 110 and that should solve your problem. I would recommend trying the free options first :) Good Luck! Collin in Sac

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-07 Thread Joe Bernard
It could just be a funky fd, too. I had one on a 9-speed bike and I don't remember the cage looking appreciably wide like most 8-speed mechs I've seen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-07 Thread dirtp
Bill, I think it's about as parallel to the chainrings as I can get it. I think if I twist it one way or another, it will rub on the opposite end. Thanks for the advice, though! On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:55:05 PM UTC-4, Bill Schairer wrote: > > I would look at the alignment of the cage wit

[RBW] Re: Apaloosa front derailleur clearance problem

2020-05-07 Thread dirtp
Thanks, Joe, I'll send a couple of pictures tomorrow. On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:38:14 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > You might be able to solve this by sliding the derailleur up a bit so the > chain is in the fatter open section of the cage. If you send me a pic I > might be able to see wh