Re: [RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-24 Thread Tim Gavin
I also recommend the Crank Brothers multi-tools (although I prefer the M10 without the chain tool because I have a separate one). The M17/M19 does look decent, if the chain tool is worth a damn. The M series Crank Brothers tools are very durable; I've had two Park multi-tools come apart in my han

[RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-24 Thread Ron Mc
If you have room, bring your full-sized Park tool, unless you still have an old Rivoli - bring that just because it's cool. On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:19:16 PM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > > Yeah... I'm consistently amazed how few riders have a chain tool (a _GOOD_ > one) on board. If y

Re: [RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-24 Thread Scott Henry
The best portable chain tool, and multi-tool in general, that I have found has been the Crank Brothers M17 http://www.crankbrothers.com/product/view/146 The spoke wrench is really what puts it over the top for me. Very easy to use and precise. Other than a 15mm for my fixed gear, it has every

[RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-23 Thread David Banzer
Jim, What chain tool would you recommend? I have one in my kit, though I had to think hard about whether I did or not, and just went and checked. It's something old from a multitool kit that I lost long ago. It relies on an allen wrench to do the pin pushing. My most common mistake is using lock

[RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-23 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Yeah... I'm consistently amazed how few riders have a chain tool (a _GOOD_ one) on board. If you have any kind of options as far as gearing, it's easy to drop a couple links and get home with a limited drivetrain. As a certain Gary Fisher once opined (early, early on...) "The most important t

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2015-03-22 Thread dougP
Patrick: First of all, congratulations on turning what would be a disaster (to me) into "just part of the adventure". As they say, attitude is everything. FWIW, you may be a candidate for stainless steel chainrings, given your riding conditions. Climate is a major factor in chain life. Fr

[RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
Inspecting my cogs (look good) and chainrings today, it looks like I broke a tooth off my 36t yesterday and I have several bent teeth on the 24t. Replacing the 36t with a narrow-wide ring since I don't have a FD, and a new 24t ring. Looking forward to seeing how that setup runs bikepacking this

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2015-03-22 Thread Matt B.
The park mini chain tool easily handles most road chains like sram etc. but some chains are pretty hard on that tool, like especially the kmc z510hx or some whipperman chains for instance.even the bigger park tool needs replacement pins after a few kmc chain adjustments. great chains

[RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
Braggert. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 7:18:50 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > I've owned two chain tools in 40 years - lost the first one > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this g

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2015-03-22 Thread Ron Mc
I've owned two chain tools in 40 years - lost the first one On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 4:49:40 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > You think I'm THAT smart? Sardonic grin. I keep meaning to. I've broken my > two old mini chain tools. Hopefully one of these day's I'll get them > re-stocked in

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2015-03-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
Andy, I access it via the paved road that connects with Rampart Range Road out of Woodland Park, then take either Rainbow Gulch trail or Schubarth (sp?) Road to the Reservoir. In summer and fall the trail around the reservoir is a popular MTB trail, all the lycra and full shock absorption you c

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2015-03-22 Thread ascpgh
Wow. That's a part fail I've not seen. Had lots of those Shimano snap-off pin connected chains fail by plates pulling off, over those despicable things. The abrasive slurry mud of my MTBing era and the winters of commuting have provided insight on chains, mostly to have a full coverage front fe

Re: [RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-22 Thread Matt B.
Cheers from another year-round bicycler in New England.This winter has been a doozy. On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 9:35:33 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote: > > Good advice Matt. I use fenders, but I ride year round and I'm not at all > proactive about cleaning. I'm guessing the amount of grit and gri

[RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-21 Thread Don Compton
Deacon, I always enjoy your posts. You are just hard on chains. You ride in a lot of bad weather, even in snow. I have found that my personal solution is to buy KMC chains and change more often ( 3000 miles). For you exploits, you may want to consider changing your chain twice a year. Also, you

Re: [RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-21 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Good advice Matt. I use fenders, but I ride year round and I'm not at all proactive about cleaning. I'm guessing the amount of grit and grime from the New England winters has substantially lessened the lifespan of my drivetrain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: [RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-21 Thread Matt B.
Fenders and especially a good mudflap can really prolong drive-train life.I'm just guessing but the increase in lifespan is maybe 4-5x. On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 7:21:22 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote: > > Everyone seems to get many, many more miles out of everything than I do. I > have to chang

Re: [RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-21 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Everyone seems to get many, many more miles out of everything than I do. I have to change cassettes each season. The proof is in the pudding. I put on a new chain, the bike doesn't shift well. I change the cassette, problem solved. I tend to wear stuff out. I'm not really sure why. I'm not a fly

Re: [RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-21 Thread Joe Broach
Hi Tim, Sorry to hear about your shoulder. A good quality cassette should last tens of thousands of miles if you change your chain before it wears too much. Consensus on "too much" seems to be when the chain measures about 1% longer than new--less for 11-speed. A chain checker

[RBW] Re: Chains do not like me.

2015-03-21 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
My Hilsen was shifting poorly this week, skipping, etc. While adjusting and cleaning it I found a broken link, the first one I've ever had. So I replaced it. I headed out for a ride today and the first time I stood on the pedals the chain slipped, throwing me forward and when I caught myself I'm

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2015-03-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
You think I'm THAT smart? Sardonic grin. I keep meaning to. I've broken my two old mini chain tools. Hopefully one of these day's I'll get them re-stocked in my bag. Still, I enjoyed the few miles of uphill running. All part of the fun! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message

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2015-03-21 Thread Ron Mc
so do you carry a chain tool, your leftover chain length and power links? I would, and do. On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 1:02:11 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Plowing through the snow attempting to make Rampart Reservoir, my nine > speed chain that is less than a year old decided to sh