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Yeah, the sizing issue for me comes from floor living, which requires greater range of motion than cycling. In pre-made knickers I have to size up the waist 2-4” so there is enough room for squatting, cross-legged, and kneeling. So then I have to cinch down way too much fabric at the waist. I’m

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Patrick: Please do share what you learn about custom wool plus 4s or whateverthehelltheyare; I think I recall that you checked out some of the Yew Kai sites I did for custom knee pants. And thanks for the Compass Knickers review. I'd held off because of their light weight, but the pilling problem

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Shoji, et al ... One of my pairs of Compass knickers pilled significantly after just two weeks of riding in them. I was informed that this is expected and normal wear. So, that answer has changed from February. With abandon, Patrick (hoping wool custom fit knickers wear better and fit better, an

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Compass should be proud to be on Team Deacon! You'll soon be a catalog image there too. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 10:13:30 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > True to actual bare-skinned waist measurement? > > They look to fit to the real waist rather than hip

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I have zero substance to contribute to this thread, as expected, but: https://quarterlybicycle.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/transform-the-love-of-your-life-or-yourself-with-weathervane-breeks/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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This is good to know ... Agree that for cycling pants, you want a waist at real waist height. While my home-made knickers are not ideal as to features or fabric (I'm sure the I Magnin flannels will pill and wear easily, now that I have them altered to really fit) they do have natural waists. Remov

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I love my Compass Knickers except I bought them when the pocket openings were very small and I have to fish things out of my pocket with my fingers. They since have fixed that issue. I bought two Snoqualmie Pass tires and one arrived with an area across the tire that had a bubble or delaminated

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Excellent explanation, Patrick. Many of the bodily functions involve reserves and restoration. ->Steve Butcher Stockton, Missouri On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:39:42 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Great question, Lum. How much of an answer do you want? Ready? Duck! Grin. > > F

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Great question, Lum. How much of an answer do you want? Ready? Duck! Grin. For me, pants create a lot of fabric motion on the leg, which most people never notice, but which adds to the “noise” my brain has to cut through to function in the world. Shorts, less so, but can easily be more than knic

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Why knickers and not something like MUSA long pants? I would think full leg coverage would be better in frosty Colorado. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

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Shoji, I just spoke with Theo at Compass and asked about the pilling. He said they’d take care of me if that happened, that it shouldn’t and he knows of two pair that happened with. Sounds like the great customer service I’ve experienced before with Compass (and Riv). With abandon, Patrick --

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Shoji, Garth is right, the actual measurement is part of my question (manufactures often make people feel good by shifting the size of their waist: “Wow! In XYZ jeans, Im a 34, not a 38! I’ll buy XYZ” But another aspect is the rise. The trend is hip hugging low rider pants, which require sizing

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Forgive me for "budding" in, but DP is referring to the actual waist measurement. Just for some FYI , in the garment industry the designers call it the "garment waist" or some may just say "actual". With the garment laid flat, measured about 1" below the very top of the waist fabric. Many manufa

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Hi Patrick, I wear 30 in most pants, and 30 Compass knickers fit as expected. I'm not sure I understand the real waist vs hips question. As for heartiness: I've been disappointed with the knickers. They started to pill along the upper thighs after only a few rides. I wear wool upper layers, p

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Since I sew by hand, I won't be doing anything terrifically fancy. These are dress slack I got too big for; so some of the leftover will be used to expand the waistline up a size (see photo for how I recently did this with a pair of Swrve pants: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/21799276151/)

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Nice, besides length what alterations are you planning? On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:06:52 AM UTC-7, Beth H wrote: > > I am making my own fall-winter knicks from an old pair of corduroy slacks. > I will share pix when they're done. > I got the slacks out of a "free" box on the curb and I'

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I am making my own fall-winter knicks from an old pair of corduroy slacks. I will share pix when they're done. I got the slacks out of a "free" box on the curb and I'm quite handy with a needle so my cost for alterations is basically just my time. I appreciate companies offering their designs, bu

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Thanks Will for the detailed review. I have the same problem as you with most knickers - they're too short for my long femurs. Would you mind measuring the inseam length of your pair? Thanks, Mike C Bellbrook O -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

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Hi, All, The Compass Knickers are about a plus-two to plus-three length on me when worn below the waist but above the hip, and run true to size. The front zipper pockets are pretty shallow--you'll be using those zippers--and the (right hand only) back zip pocket is large enough for a couple o

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Was in NYC for a few days. Returned and mine were in the vestibule. Definitely light weight. Appear well made. Zippers are solid. Belt and snap just a little hard to work - suggesting they will stand up to a lot of abuse. Glad I ordered a size up per the Compass Rx. Tomorrow is supposed t

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Ahahahaah ! "recovering" from what ? ! What you never had cannot be taken from you. Stating the Obvious . . . . *Life IS a costume party* . Everyone is wearing a costume so it does not matter what anyone is wearing no matter what they, you or I say about it . HaH ! The bus drive

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those numbers sound short. I have been happily using the Zoic Reign knickers and an XL version ( 36" waist) measures about 20 1/2 inches. They are from a local Co. here in Carlsbad but are sewn in China unfortunately. ~mike Carlsbad Ca On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 3:46:30 PM UTC-7, Daniel D

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I don't think any of the "domestic" knickers are quite so sophisticated in their cut, and quite as performance-oriented. It's like many of the mainstream "classic" bikes, which go for the look of a classic, but not necessarily get the performance right. The Compass knickers really are incredib

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>From blog post about the knickers. I have a 30" men's jeans inseam and the knicker numbers sound like a good length, not slightly over hemmed pants :p. https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/compass-knickers/ Inseams (approximate): 28″ size: 17.5″ inseam 30″ size: 18.25″ inseam 32 and 34 size

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In the pictures you both look, dare I say, normal. Not an elf to be seen anywhere. My mind is at rest. Jim D. Massachusetts On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 2:11:22 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Jim, be assured Patrick of the Moore can clean up nicely (at leas

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Jan, I love the idea of these kickers. Is it possible to share some inseam information? I would love a pair, but I fear at 5'2" and with comparatively skinny calves, the following three things might happen: 1) the articulated knees would fall midway down my shins, 2) my calves wouldn't hold

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Jim, be assured Patrick of the Moore can clean up nicely (at least by my fashion standards, which arguably may not exist). Grin.: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/20325920986/in/album-72157656815085416/ With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 11:44:58 AM UTC-6, Jim D Massa

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Patrick, I am contemplating the image of you in that attire. I cannot imagine what I would think if I saw something like that out in the wild. I can understand why it would take you a bit, to restore your self image. Be assured however that the list values your experience no matter how you dr

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I was wondering how Japanese knickers differ from the american ones like swrve, chrome, betabrand, etc. Umm yeah don't google "japanese knickers" at work. But Japanese cycling knickers didn't turn up anything either. On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:17:49 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: > > > > The w

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The fit of the knickers certainly isn't form-fitting - that would defeat the purpose. We clarified the language - what we meant to say is that if you wear padded shorts underneath these, you should definitely order one size larger than you would for your normal pants. The whole idea of knickers

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my favorite socks are Falke Bristol (100% merino) with Falke Airport (blend) a close second. Usually, knee socks don't last the whole day here - always gets warm enough to peel layers and change to shortie socks somewhere along the way. On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 1:22:13 PM UTC-5, Lynne F

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I am still recovering my self confidence and rebuilding my self image, several years after, in pure innocence, riding to the express bus stop in wool knickers, long socks, knit jersey, wool cycling cap (with tasteful chequered pattern), and antique Vittoria sheepskin lined cycling ankle boots -- a

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Yes, it is all about the socks. +1 for Ibex wool knickers and colorful tall socks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr.

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I followed a similar path and got a pair of "army" (not sure which army) wool pants at good 'ol Andy & Bax in Portland. Heavy duty wool and buttons - took them to a local seamstress and had them converted to knickers - all in they were about $55 - they are very good for the winter but a bit of

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I thought the whole purpose of knickers is so that you can show off your shapely calves ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H awesome sock collection. -E. (whose favorite is discontinued ibex wool knickers + stripey socks) On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I've done almost that with Goodwill wool

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I've done almost that with Goodwill woolen dress pants, except that I had a pro sew them up for me. Cut some 8" below knee (I like plenty of space when I cinch them just under the knee; don't like them hanging loose); hem; attach velcro straps; and use excess to line front for additional wind prote

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Looks like riv knows their knicker audience judging by the many fans. I dislike the roominess/bagginess and long length of the musa knickers. The more I'm paying for clothes the more fitted/slim I expect them to be, to a point :p. And knickers should not be "floods" On Sunday, October 4, 201

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I like roominess and sizing up, too. Couldn't one buy some wool suit pants at Goodwill, cut them short and sew elastic in the hemline? Get whatever size you need for roominess. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscrib

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Like LBJ , it sounds like many of us prefer a bit of roominess in our pants. On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado < row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Those

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Those are good looking Knickers but the max 36 waist puts me out of the market right off the bat and a bit pricey.I didn't see any on the Riv site.. These fit me and my wallet better if I was to purchase. http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/search/?&category=Mens+Pants&type=Knickers . > --

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These look fantastic ! Don't know about the "slim" fit though . I prefer pants loose in the trunk area , no restrictions ! So I doubt these would fit the bill. For those , if any , that know of the now discontinued Ex Officio Amphi pants and shorts , the fit of these is sublime.

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they don't look that snug in the photos - and agree they look very sharp. Another MUSA knicker fan here - in fact, donning mine for this morning's 60-degree ride. Deac, size wise, sounds like you and I may be in the same boat. I bought some surplus Italian army knickers for cheap, claimed to

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I meant to also say those breeches look sharp! If someone tells me they'll work with tree trunk thighs and have a deep waist, I'd love to consider them. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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The description says "They fit slim and are adjustable, so order a size up if unsure." For me, with a size 36 waist, that I take that to mean I'd likely be singling soprano if I squat in them (which I do many times a day). I like my baggy large MUSA breeches. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday,

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Doug, Since they were only made available this week it's quite unlikely that anyone other than Jan Heine and perhaps a few of his "product testers" have any experience at all with them. Regards, Julian Westerhout Bloomington, Il On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 5:19:55 PM UTC-5, Doug Willi