On Monday, John Hawrylak wrote:
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> Craig Thanks for the reply and the pictures. From what you stated, you
> must have gone from about 60mm trial to 45mm trail.
> Does the 45mm trail and the LARGE rear loads give you problems?
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45 is about right John. LARGE rear loads don't
My Atlantis shimmied a bit with a rear only load. For self contained tours
(4 bags) it was more stable. I experimented with load balance & concluded
60% front / 40% rear worked well. This was all with the original fork.
The lower trail (40 mm) of the custom fork seems to have cured the
Craig Thanks for the reply and the pictures. From what you stated, you
must have gone from about 60mm trial to 45mm trail.
Does the 45mm trail and the LARGE rear loads give you problems??
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 1:02:45 AM UTC-4, Craig Montgomery wrote:
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IRRC he loved low trail. He put low trail forks on his hunq and his
atlantis. He sold his Hunq, and he ended up getting a custom from Steve Rex
based off the low trail atlantis for more integrated bike, and to try
compass centerpulls.
I haven't seen him on the boards in a bit though.
On
Ooooh, I like that. I have noticed some moderate speed wobble at times on my
Atlantis when loaded up like that on the road. I did not notice it off
pavement. I thought maybe it was just I was concentrating on my path more or
something but the BQ article seems to suggest there might be other
Hey John,
I converted an early All Rounder to low trail with a new fork. Got tired of
manhandling a front load with the style of touring I do. The geometry was
more traditional British with a 72 seat and 73 head but the fork rake gave
it something like a 60mm trail. Unladen this geometry
Garth
Thanks for the BQ article. Very informative.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 8:25:26 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
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>This is worth reading
> http://normaali.net/temp/Front-End-Geometry.pdf
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> If you really want to do this and work with someone who
Thank for posting Garth. Interesting. My Waterford has 2 forks with different
rakes and brakes that allow 2 wheel sizes. There is a definate difference in
handling when you change any of those.
On Sunday, October 28, 2018, 7:25:31 AM CDT, Garth
wrote:
This is worth reading
This is worth reading
http://normaali.net/temp/Front-End-Geometry.pdf
If you really want to do this and work with someone who experience adding
a new fork on existing frames, and not just out of mere curiosity or
thinking you can save a buck by not buying another frame that handles
Group member René had both an Atlantis and a Hunquapillar with low trail forks.
And I believe he shared experiences well. If you use his name as part of the
search terms, you'll probably find some good info and pics as well.
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Several years ago, I converted my 58 cm, 700c wheeled Atlantis to 40 mm
trail, vs the 65 mm of stock. The reason for the change was to cure an
irritating wander at low speeds on hills. I always have several pounds up
front in an Acorn Boxy Rando bag. Like you, I was concerned about the law
I'd think that the best way to convert a Riv to low trail is to sell the
Riv and buy a low-trail bike. Low trail, mid-trail, and high trail are
fundamental aspects of a bike, IMO, and if the trail doesn't match what
you're looking for then get one that does.
Dave
Boston/Indy
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