Re: [RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

OTOH: I recall a practically new Schwinn Collegiate bought at Goodwill that had a 5 speed square-tooth wide range freewheel shifted by a second-gen Alvit rear derailleur pulled by a massive, chromed steel lever clamped to the stem quill; possibly Suntour ratcheting? I don't recall. At any rate, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

FWIW, I read a few years ago that using a chain 1 generation more advanced than one's cassette improved shifting because the later and narrower chain avoids rubbing on adjacent cogs a wee but noticeable bit better than the earlier chain. I've been using 11 sp chains on my 10 sp cassettes, and

[RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

The fact that the "Friction vs Indexed" conversation has persisted for over 30 years now is testimony that both have their merits. - My Rivendell with a 3x8 drivetrain and Silver 2 thumb shifters is, of course, in friction mode (as was my 1970 ten speed Schwinn and my mid 70's Raleigh). I like

[RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

I’ve tried 8,9,10 speeds with friction shifting. 10 speed, nope. 9 was ok But settled on 8-speed for pretty much all friction shift bikes. On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 7:27:21 PM UTC-6 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: > I have been friction shifting my 10 speed campy set up. 11-26 X 44-28 >

[RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

What makes friction work for me isn't only about holding the derailleur position, ie: not having frame flex produce cable pull or the lever slip, but rather the tactile ability to quickly and accurately move to the next cog without need to trim. If the feedback required to do that is only

[RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:21 PM UTC-5 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: Previous threads and literature suggests that the closer the cogs in 10 & 11 speeds makes for better friction shifting. What has been your experience? Like others, I have had mixed experience. A few observations -

[RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

My road bike is friction 2x10 with Riv Silver 2s on barend pods, Campy Veloce FD, Sugino 48/34 crank, Ultegra 11-30 cassette, and Ultegra 10 speed chain. Wonderful shifting. After initial setup I had some occasional slipping on the right shifter, requiring some snugging of the D-ring bolt by

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

I'm using that $13 derailleur on a couple of bikes that see regular off-road use (including my Platypus) and it just works. I have some bikes with fancier RDs but will continue to use it on future builds where it fits. The symptom of working fine in all but a couple of cogs always makes me

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Yes it is a 9. I've wanted to switch to Silver Thumbies so that might just be the next upgrade. Good point about the derailleur too, that's something to consider. On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 6:11:32 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote: > Hi Vincent, > > That Clem is beautiful, but your

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Thank you all for the advice! On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 5:54:40 AM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote: > Vincent, Garth's comments regarding cross chaining sure do seem like a > likely explanation for the accelerated wear on the outer two cogs. Looking > at your picture of the bike, it appears

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Vincent, Garth's comments regarding cross chaining sure do seem like a likely explanation for the accelerated wear on the outer two cogs. Looking at your picture of the bike, it appears the cranks are mounted on a fairly narrow bottom bracket spindle. If the spindle is narrow enough to move

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Hi Vincent, That Clem is beautiful, but your shifting issue sounds frustrating. Are you running a 9-speed cassette in the back? I had the indexing Sunrace thumbie on my Rivendell and performance felt just ok. My vintage Suntour thumb shifters from 1983 were better, and now I have a Riv silver

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Sounds like an issue my wife had about a year ago. We tried a lot of random ideas, like snugging up the cassette lockring (on the theory that the cogs were loose and wobbling a bit). In the end, a new chain made the shifting work perfectly again. Good luck. -Wes On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

I'd have someone check the derailleur hanger adjustment. How many miles are you getting on each cassette? How about chains? Smallest cogs will wear the fastest. If you are riding a lot on the big ring and the smallest cogs, maybe get a bigger big ring that will put your usual pedaling in

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Thank you guys. The suntour shifters don't bug me so much as I may have made it out in the initial post. I was just not sure if they were causing this wear on the rear cassette or not. I only have a double crank and rarely cross chain. Usually I'm on the largest toothed chainring on the front

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

I'm not sure I would agree that they "force indexing". I've used them on my Clem for awhile now and while its weird it works with no issues. At least I personally have not had issues and it sounds like Grant has been issue free with more miles than me. I do agree that Riv's details do make it

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Additionally, if you're riding in the small/inner ring and smallest 2-3 cogs, don't ! Even the middle isn't optimal with a 11t/12t/13t, but without an outer ring, you have no other option. Yeah I do remember when those Sunrace came out the confusing description of them, and it's still clear

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Those SunRace shifters force indexing that doesn't line up with all the cogs. Technically you can trim them to work as a friction shifter but it'll drive you crazy, you need Silver thumbies. On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 8:40:52 PM UTC-7 Vincent Tamer wrote: > I have an on going issue with

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

Vinvent, the Sunrace shifters ratcheting is there only as part of the tension holding friction mechanism. It was in use well before indexed came to be in use. That indexed shifters happen to click once per shift change in unrelated to the ratcheting clicks of the friction variety. I've not

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

I've been using this same set up and it's totally fine. On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 9:08:35 AM UTC-8 Adam Bowen wrote: > I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end > and GX Eagle derailer/cassette. I have been pleased with how well it works > > On

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

Good to hear. I'm currently setting up a bike with your same set-up. I've been rocking 10 speed friction for a year, so why not try 12 speed? On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 9:08:35 AM UTC-8 Adam Bowen wrote: > I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end > and

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

This is very good to know. I don't expect that I will want to go beyond 10 -- when I decided to convert from friction 9 to friction 10, I thought I was being daringly cutting edge -- but it's good to know that there remain further possibilities, if and when. On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:08 AM Adam

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end and GX Eagle derailer/cassette. I have been pleased with how well it works On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 11:28:54 AM UTC-5 Matthew P wrote: > Thank you Sam for this post. This is currently on my mind. > My friends

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

Thank you Sam for this post. This is currently on my mind. My friends insisted on a clutch derailer, and then, better than insisting, a friend gave me one (I reciprocated to make it a trade :) So I've been internally himming and hawing over what shifter to run on my Shimano 11 speed clutch

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

I’ve been using 1x11 for a while, in both friction and indexed. I use an appropriate Microshift lever with a Shimano SLX clutch derailleur, and it works flawlessly. I started it out as a bar-end, but now have it on a hydraulic Gevenalle setup. On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:24:37 AM UTC-5

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

Adding my tiny clamor to the general hubub (not Hubbuhubbuh): I've done this for years with 7, 8, 9, and 10 speed cassettes. Currently I shift a 1X10 (with granny bailout) using Suntour bar cons and a 7 or 8 speed rd (Dura Ace 7401), and it works surprisingly well despite the shifter and

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

Yes, of course it will work. I have a friction 9 speed set up on my Rivendell and, yes, it is a little fussy, but it works incredibly smoothly and I have a clutch derailleur. I use the Silver1 shifter because it's longer and therefore slightly more precise IMHO. On my other bike, I have a

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

Friction shifting 11 speeds is easier than friction on 9. Shifting isn’t fussy at all. I have a silver downtube shifter. The throw of the shifter is maxed out - it’s parallel to the down tube at each end of the throw, but that’s fine. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at

[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

I run a box components 9 speed wide range cassette 1x and have experienced no issues or any desire to run a larger cassette. I have used microshift , dura ace and sunrace shifters. I have recently switched to indexed shifting and am not sure I will be going back to friction any time soon.

Re: [RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

I have had the same experience with my new silver shifters. They will not hold their position even when I tighten them to the point It's to difficult to shift. I am using an old M952 xtr derailleur. They've even frayed and broken the shifter cable. I emailed them about it a couple time with no

Re: [RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

Oh I didn't think of that I'm only just now tinkering with more than just changing handle bars. I don't remember the last time I purchased a replacement. I remember I broke the chain 2 years ago and replaced it. On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 12:55 PM tuolumne bikes wrote: > Are you absolutely sure the

[RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

Are you absolutely sure the cable is slipping? Does it always move in the same direction? (Gets harder to pedal for traditional rear derailleur.) Never happens in index mode? Skipping on worn cogs with a newer chain can seem like a shifting problem especially if it's on the larger cogs and

[RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

As you state this occurs under hard efforts, it could be that this is due to a "soft" frame and has nothing to do with the shifting setup. Andreas On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 10:14:40 AM UTC-4, Sam Perez wrote: > > does any one know how to trouble shoot friction shifters that wont hold >

Re: [RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

On the silver shifter I have a Shimano xt rear derailleur and on the dura ace down tube I have a micro shift short cage deraliur. Hmm 樂 I tightened it to the point it takes effort to shift so, looks like this could be frame flex/Rd shifter combo/ need of adjustible locktight.. On Thu, Aug 20,

[RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

Yes, many good mechanics know how to trouble shoot friction shifters that wont hold gears under hard effort My thoughts are that there is one of two things going on: Either you are never getting it tight enough, or it is loosening itself up. The reason you may not be able to get it tight

[RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

Check the cable routing, especially the ferrule fit. A minor movement between the cable and ferrule or the ferrule and a cable stop can sometimes cause this. Double-check that there is not a "second" ferrule stuck in a stop somewhere (including the derailleur). If the bike was built up with

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

I'm looking at using friction shifters (Sunrace thumbies upside down) on my 9-speed cassette with a clutched derailleur from: (a) Shimano 10 speed (e.g., M786) or (b) Microshift Advent ... could you give me some more info about the Blahg or Blug that mentioned this method for adjusting the

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

True, but you can do that with indexed bar end and downtube shifters, too. On 4/10/19 10:23 PM, Teague Scott wrote: I think one of the beauties about friction is the ability to shift multiple cogs in one swift, quiet motion. This can be of huge benefit on the trail, but one needs to maintain

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

I run friction on both my bikes - 3x9 and 1x11. I like being able to get things perfectly dialed so my drivetrain is silent. I know you can get that with an indexed system, but it's nice to know I never have to worry about it failing. Once you spend some time with friction you'll be able to

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Thank you, Eric, for that Park video link. I got my 11x dialed in, at least as far as a test ride up and down the block goes, and I now have all 11 gears and all 11 are behaving. I may actually have a handle on how to adjust this indexing insanity in the field now. Grin. Steve, you called it,

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

His precise instructions to the cool production and editing touches, that Park Tools videos is very good all around! On Thursday, 11 April 2019 08:11:43 UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote: > > I've mostly ridden older bikes which came to me in good shape so I just > rode them as they came, after I

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

I've mostly ridden older bikes which came to me in good shape so I just rode them as they came, after I cleaned them, replaced rubber parts and sometimes cables/housing, and gave them a tuneup. In all this time I only had one bike with indexed shifting (and a derailleur). It worked OK, but

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Shifting like everything . There's no going-getting-it "wrong" OR "right" There's just Going Riding along . Any shifts within the Ride are the very Identical Ride Itself. The Ride Riding(shifting) the Ride. Oh yes "what about me, the rider" ? Ahahaahahah

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

When I assembled my first Riv 2 years ago, I bought Microshift 9 speed shifters from HQ along with the frame and other parts. Mounted them on the inside of handlebar, so rear was friction and front was indexed. This shifter had no option to switch between. Ran this setup for a year with no

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Have you tried adjusting cable tension? Usually, reluctance to shift to higher gears indicates excessive cable tension.  If that was the case, you'd expect pretty snappy downshifting.  On the other hand, "semi-responsive" to downshift, "reluctant" to upshift sounds like the whole thing is

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

My demo Gus Boots came with XT 1x11 indexing. I am impressed so far with how it shifts except for a few things: 1. though it shifts semi-responsively to lower gears, shifting to higher gears is reluctant; 2. it requires coaxing to get into the highest gear. I’m unsure how to solve that. With

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Prior to a group ride last night I spoke with a an early arriving rider who not only made me feel alien for a steel frame but was amazed at the danger I courted for not having brifters. He felt bar end shifters were more dangerous than DT levers. I did not tell him they were friction. He

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

At a race my company promoted and operated BITD, a young rider hot out of triathlons in Texas named Lance was riding a mash-up of bar end shifter for the front derailleur and an STI lever for the rear. He preferred the infinite trim available to the friction bar end that the STI couldn't

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

"I like the idea of doing it myself, and I don't want a machine to take it over for me!" As I get older I also find myself leaning more toward simple over complex. Complex can be wonderfully convenient until it fails, and I've had two indexing failures. My first shifter fail was 9-sp Campy

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

I think both have their place. The analogy I used is digital versus analogue audio. I love my turn table and records but by golly I love the precision and convenience of my digital setup too. I originally got into friction way back in the 60s then rediscovered it more recently when I got fed up

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

I'm back to friction almost exclusively now and I am tired of fiddling with indexing setups. I like the idea of set and forget and I love the idea of really having to be in tune with the bike to shift. My Jones has 11 speed XT which does shift really nicely, but when I get back to friction on

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Indexing and STI require less thought from our minds and bodies, bringing us closer to the technological ideal of mind-lessness and thought-lessness that we seem to be striving for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Friction for durability, flexibility and I know how to make them work. I never could get the hang of servicing indexed and I had two brifters go bad but never a bar end. Then, ‘will this work with that?” is really never an issue - swap wheels, cassettes, freewheels, chainrings etc with hardly

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

+2 for both indexed and friction. I have Microshift shifters on my Sam, they're friction on the front, switchable to friction or indexed on the rear. Strongly recommended. They call these "friction transferable" meaning you can switch between the modes. It requires an allen key, super easy

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

+1 on friction front, index back, and +1 on using Shimano shifters that can do both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

You are right, indexing might well be a better choice for rapidly changing terrain and conditions. My technique with friction in "emergency" situations -- deep sand patch, for example -- is to slam the right lever to the large cog (or at least to a bigger cogs several positions away) in order to

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

once set up, I like indexing marginally more than friction but ive found that the freedom and ease of mixing and matching parts that friction allows makes my life so much easier that it vastly outweighs any minor benefits of indexing. I'd only friction shift up to 9 speed though, and

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Here they are! I think they're yours?, unless it's another friend. If so, you should really keep them. Paired with some Paul's thumbies and they're the greatest thumb shifters around. https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!topic/internet-bob/_NkQDZXqVz4 -Kai On

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

There’s a set for sale over on the iBob list as we speak! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

A good shimano bar end should give you the option of index or friction. 9 speed has the option for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

I have both friction and index. I've personally found friction to be great for more gradually changing terrain that gives you some time to fine tune the paddle placement before really cranking down on the pedals without fully losing your momentum. However, when I am dealing with highly varied

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

Indexing in rear, friction in front. I like the convenience of indexing. But not really needed in front and you can easily trim the front derailleur. On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:49:44 AM UTC-7, Friend wrote: > > I am getting ready to build up an AHH frame. I am planning on putting > noodle

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

Paul, made me check. My Chorus DT shifter covers 150-degrees over the width of a Record 8sp cassette, 130mm OLD. Should be the same pull to cover a 10s, but not sure about Shimano vs. Campy pull distance. As far as sensitivity, it shifts better than anybody's index - picking the next gear

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

Thanks for that. I will look into those as well. I am currently researching info to see if old Campagnolo DT shifters will work. I'm getting mixed info. Those Dia Compe's look pretty cool, too. On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-6, eddietheflay wrote: > > not a ton of time on

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 4:31:35 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Silver/old-Suntour internals, but I seem to recall a convo stating the > Dia-Compes have a bigger barrel to work better with 10-speed cassettes. Shouldn't that be 10-speed Shimano rear *derailleurs* that use more cable

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

The DiaCompe version sold by Velo Orange has the big barrel on the rear shifter that pulls a lot of cable and stays put. On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 4:08:06 PM UTC-4, PaulS wrote: > > I am looking for a set of downtube shifters for my Hunq. Mated to a 3x9-sp > Mountain drive train (in case

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

My Dia Compe ones are mounted on barcon pods and I am shifting a 10 speed cassette. It works smoothly but the arc of the lever is really significant. I would guess with my challenged thumbs it is a bigger deal and I can imagine if I used the shifter on the downtube then that action would be

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

Silver/old-Suntour internals, but I seem to recall a convo stating the Dia-Compes have a bigger barrel to work better with 10-speed cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

Almost certain the Diacompe-Ene are Silvers. On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 9:54:48 AM UTC-5, eddietheflay wrote: > > not a ton of time on the ones I recently installed, but so far smooth and > steady: > > http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/ene-w-shift-lever/ > > > -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

not a ton of time on the ones I recently installed, but so far smooth and steady: http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/ene-w-shift-lever/ On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 1:08:06 PM UTC-7, PaulS wrote: > > I am looking for a set of downtube shifters for my Hunq. Mated to a 3x9-sp > Mountain drive

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

Matching cable pull is everything. The very best I have with long cable pull are Campy Chorus. The best I have with short cable pull are Campy Victory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

Another vote for the Dura-Ace 7700 DT shifters. You'll be pretty lucky to find a pair at a reasonable price, though. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

The Dura-Ace shifters are really nice. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 1:08:06 PM UTC-7, PaulS wrote: > > I am looking for a set of downtube shifters for my Hunq. Mated to a

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

You can install some housing inner liner on the part of cable that wraps around the shifter - effectively increasing the diameter of the shifter. You can hold the liner in place with shrink wrap beyond where the shifter wraps the cable. It was on the Blug or Blahg a month or so ago. I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

FYI, the 10-speed (black) Shimano pods allow for more lever travel. On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Jon BALER wrote: > I have a shimano 9 speed bar end shifter (in friction mode) with 10 speed > dynasis rear der. I had to dremel the shifter mount to allow for more > lever

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

I have a shimano 9 speed bar end shifter (in friction mode) with 10 speed dynasis rear der. I had to dremel the shifter mount to allow for more lever travel/rotation to get enough cable pull. On another bike, I have a IRD Silver SOS power ratchet with 10 speed dynasis rear der. With the

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Dyna-sys

indeed i just succesfully mix an old shimano 105 8s sis/friction ( in friction mode ) with a 10 speed shimano cassette but with a mega 9 xt rd-771 sgs , now my plan is to test the zee derailleur rd m640 (from my other bike) with these shifter in friction mode Le jeudi 2 juillet 2015

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting 10 cogs; Road BB7 disc brakes with Yokuzuna

I'll keep the ICE rotor in mind. Jon: Silver bar end shifters. I daresay that the "Dynanys" system is not compatible with bar end shifters? Years ago I shifted 10 sp with Retrofrictions; these also have smaller barrels. It worked fine, thought the total cassette chain travel required almost the

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting 10 cogs; Road BB7 disc brakes with Yokuzuna

Patrick, I loved the responsiveness of interrupter levers, but my canti brake levers felt mushy and less responsive. Then I changed handlebars, was in a bit of a rush and didn't want to take time to re-install the interrupters. Behold, the brake levers felt alive and responsive, only slightly

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting 10 cogs; Road BB7 disc brakes with Yokuzuna

Of course, I forgot to add that the braking is as powerful as any caliper, side or center, that I've used, and they modulate quite well, though modulation control will be easier with more lever travel. On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > 2. I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

Love the diaga-cable. I hope it works out for ya. Best, Eric > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

Thanks for the kudos. (Aw, shucks, it tweren't nuthin'. Shuffle shuffle, sniff.) The lash is annoying. I rode the S3X to church and back this morning, and immediately upon return, took the fixed Dahon Hon Solo to the store: what a very amazing difference in feel! My first impression upon pedaling

[RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

Hello Patrick, Thumbs up on shopping for parts at Niagara Cycle. I get almost all of my non-Riv parts from them. They may not always have the cheapest price, but I find they have a huge selection. Very good customer service as well. The only problem I've ever had was the it can take a couple

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

But is has a logo on it...most un-Riv-ish... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

Here ya go! $10 cheaper and sold, if not made, in the Yew Ess of A. http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/origin8-downtube-shifter-adapter-31-8-28-6mm-black . Still looking to trade On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > VIA DT shifter clamp with

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

Thanks for this -- just what I need. If no one takes me up on the trade, I'll get one. In other news: brief errand shakedown ride indicates that all is well. No hills, but I did try the lower gears. 2nd -- 57" -- feels "normal"; in1st -- 48" -- I feel a mild "coffee grinder" effect; not so much

[RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

PS- I run it with a Silver Shifter - bare washer against post. The boss posts are too long for the DT shifter tab stops that come with Silver Shifters. Works fine. I don't know about your shifter, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

VIA DT shifter clamp in silver color. Comes with a shim for slimmer downtubed bikes. Total with shipping I think was 26$US or something like that iirc. http://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/via-downtube-shifter-mount -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

Other recipients: VIA DT shifter clamp with Silver DT shifters. Got it from an online British bike shop. Comes with a shim for slimmer tubed bikes. Total with shipping I think was 26$US or something like that iirc. http://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/via-downtube-shift VIA DT shifter clamp

[RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

VIA DT shifter clamp with Silver DT shifters. Got it from an online British bike shop. Comes with a shim for slimmer tubed bikes. Total with shipping I think was 26$US or something like that iirc. http://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/via-downtube-shifter-mount

[RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

If anyone has an easy on/easy off (= hinged?***) clamp type dt shifter boss for sale or trade, I'd be happy to talk. Problem Solvers has an elegant one, and there are a couple of decent ones on eBay, but the totals with shipping will all be over $50. I have a pair of 7 speed indexed (friction

[RBW] Re: Friction solvdes S3X shifting problem.

I forgot to add that 15 minutes with a grinder and files turned a clamp-on bottle cage boss into a clamp on shifter mount. It works very well. On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > The OEM shifter must be buggered up. I replaced it with a nice old Shimano

[RBW] Re: friction shifting with shimano dynasys rear derailleur?

okay ty! i searched for this and it didn't show up. probably because of my spelling of dyna-sys On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:44:37 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote: > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/dynasis%7Csort:relevance/rbw-owners-bunch/m6CN3NP4Eu8/zBdZ-YHWexIJ >

[RBW] Re: friction shifting with shimano dynasys rear derailleur?

would it also friction shift the new 11 speed rear derailleurs from shimano? like the XTR M8000? On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 4:17:50 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote: > > okay ty! i searched for this and it didn't show up. probably because of my > spelling of dyna-sys > > On Friday, November 13,

[RBW] Re: friction shifting with shimano dynasys rear derailleur?

It's doable. 9 speed isn't disappearing just yet. The non-dyna-sys 2015 Alvio group is 9 speed. On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:25:25 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote: > > i wanted to know if those new SLX / XT 10 speed dyna-sys rear derailleur > could be friction shifted with ultegra bar ends. i

[RBW] Re: friction shifting with shimano dynasys rear derailleur?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/dynasis%7Csort:relevance/rbw-owners-bunch/m6CN3NP4Eu8/zBdZ-YHWexIJ On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 1:25:25 PM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote: > > i wanted to know if those new SLX / XT 10 speed dyna-sys rear derailleur > could be friction

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

168 crank RPM??? That sounds slightly insane to me, but to each his own. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: My gofast has a 15 t small and a 17 t big (both fixed) with a single 46 t ring (and 24 1/2 actual diameter 650C wheels). My ultimate top speed (at

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

180 counting both feet (so half cranks,) is perfectly normal. At least in the barefoot /minimalist running world, a cadence of 180 steps is normal. On a bike, that's three strokes per second -- not hard to accomplish at all. What seems insane to you about 168? I imagine on my QB I max out

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

Maybe insane is not the right word? How about un-fun? I don't know, it's hard for me to imagine the unabridged joy of a long descent in the mid-upper 30s with legs pulsating not unlike a sewing machine. Just seems to me like it would take all the fun out of it. I've seen it before though, was

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

168 rpm at the crank isn't fun at all, except to boast about; and even then it's not all that boast-worthy: others reach much higher r's pm. But 112-120 isn't hard at all to maintain -- I used to maintain that -- well, 104 -- 112 actually -- in flatland cruising back in the days when I was young

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