Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-10-15 Thread Ben Adrian
Just wanted to check in. I've been using the SIlver 1 shifters as bar ends for a while. Overall, things were good, but I did have some ghost shifting under torque and something just seemed less than precise. For the record, I've been using my Ultegra 6500 RD with a hanger extender to get up to

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-30 Thread David Person
With the Shimano's I find I often shift with the lever between my pinkie and ring finger. Almost effortless and one of those things one does without thinking. On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:14:15 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > I can't comment on the Shimano comparison but I've used

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-30 Thread Joe Bernard
I can't comment on the Shimano comparison but I've used Silver1 and 2 as bar-ends and liked that long blade better. The way you can drop your whole hand and pull up on the ratcheting direction with your two rear fingers (pinkie and the other one) can't be beat for friction shifting. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-30 Thread David Person
Adding to Ben's comments. I've been running Shimano Dura-Ace 9-speed bar ends on my bikes for awhile, in friction mode. Recently wanted to see what, if any, difference Silver2 shifter would be. So last week I purchased one Silver2 lever for the rear to try on one bike. Yes, had to use my

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-23 Thread Ben Adrian
Since I didn't REALLY want to mangle the pods, I decided to dremed the square centered washer spacers. A few minutes carefullt carving on each and I got the stopper washers to fit over the indexing alignment bump. Here's hoping for the best on my ride this evening. I really live in a charmed

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-21 Thread lconley
The half-round function is to locate the indexing function of the indexing shifters correctly. Not strictly necessary, but it makes it impossible to install an indexing shifter incorrectly - idiot proofing. It is easily removed with a file or Dremel to allow silver or Dia-Compe friction

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-21 Thread Ben Adrian
More shifter nerd talk! Attemped to mount the silver shifter onto the shimano pod this morning and ran into a snag. Many of you probably know this, but if not, here's the deal. Here's a photo of the Shimano Pod. Thanks Park Tool!

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-19 Thread Richard Rose
I am with you Ben! First 20+ mile ride with the Silver thumbie rear. Shifting is buttery smooth - love it! It is so responsive & precise feeling. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Ben Adrian wrote: > > Pointless updates because I just like talking bikes. > > Ever since I

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-19 Thread Joe Bernard
It all depends on how much reaching you can live with. DT is simpler, more direct and IMHO looks great, but I got no patience for reaching to the downtube to shift. Bar shifting for me!* *This also depends on how often you shift. I have physical issues that require me to shift a lot in my

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-19 Thread Ben Adrian
Pointless updates because I just like talking bikes. Ever since I rerouted my cables, my performance has been very good. However, I've never tried any of the Suntour/Silver ratchet shifters and I've always been curious. I found a used set here so I grabbed them. I gently removed my rear

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-09-03 Thread Nick Shoemaker
I've always run 10sp Campy brifters with a Shimano 8sp cassette on my San Marcos. No funky cable trickery required, you just set them up like normal and end up with 7 functional clicks using any standard Shimano derailleur. I think it's far-and-away the most riv-ish option for brifters if you

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-29 Thread Garth
While I get everyone trying to sell on you new parts and all Ben but it seems it's a cable routing issue. Why not call Riv and ask someone there as they've seen countless setups applicable to yours if you're not sure how to do a "super long" cable run ? For that matter, the simplicity and

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-29 Thread Ben Adrian
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:02:35 AM UTC-7 shopmonkey 39 wrote: > Here's some ideas based on personal experience as I have barends on a > handful of bikes. First idea since you are already there, would be to turn > your indexing off on your shifters. I have this on a bike and it works >

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-29 Thread Jay Lonner
I had never heard of Gevenalle before but those shifters look awesome. If I ever run drop bars again (maybe a Stargazer?) I would absolutely give those a try. Thanks for the suggestion. Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA Sent from my Atari 400 > On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:02 AM, shopmonkey 39 wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-29 Thread shopmonkey 39
Here's some ideas based on personal experience as I have barends on a handful of bikes. First idea since you are already there, would be to turn your indexing off on your shifters. I have this on a bike and it works great in friction mode. Second idea. If you are open to other models of

Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-29 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Maybe shifter itself or cable interfacing with shifter is jacked?Both front and rear?Plenty of bikes out there running smooth with cables running along bar bends.That's frustrating. Hope you find source.You've started process of elimination. I'd continue that path...Good luck!Scott Sent from

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-27 Thread Ben Adrian
Scene report! To the Riv out for an urban cruise today. Shifting was still terrible. I did some tests while riding where I just leaned over and pulled on the shifting cables between the stops and the bottom bracket. The shifting was really smooth. So it must be the cable going through the

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-26 Thread Bill Schairer
Having ridden for years with a front handlebar bag, I guess I'm just used to pushing the cables from the bar end shifters one way or the other to mount or unmount the bag. That said, I now run my Atlantis with a DT front shifter and bar end rear shifter for two reasons unrelated to cable/bag

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-25 Thread Joe Bernard
I love the look and direct connection of dt shifters but only on other people's bikes. If it's not on the bar I ain't shifting it! On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 2:44:26 PM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com wrote: > I love all the replies and knowledge here. It's pretty fun. > > I did a little test. I

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-25 Thread Ben Adrian
I love all the replies and knowledge here. It's pretty fun. I did a little test. I put my RD in the biggest cog. I then shifted all the way down to the smallest cog without pedaling to put slack in the cable. Then I pulled the cable tight at the downtube. Then I shifted back up to the biggest

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Ben: I will add my 2 cents: we are big bar-end fans - they are on the bikes that have drop handlebars. We only go friction - not indexed, so YMMV. We use front racks and Wald baskets, and yes, depending upon your specific setup, the pair of long "U" cable and cable housing can get in the way.

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-25 Thread Joe Bernard
I should add my bias here: I love bar-ends on drops, the drop-down from the hoods to push/pull a shifter is all that and a bag of chips. But if you're into brifters and want to spend the cash, go for it! On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 10:43:21 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > Did you do the

[RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

2022-08-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Did you do the super-long cables thing? You should be able to have them come straight forward from the bottom run of the bars, then loop back under the basket. Picture two cables looping out pretty far forward; I've tried the "keep em short and out of the way" version and it doesn't work, I