[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-09-17 Thread Mike Godwin
Try Specialize Roubaix Pro 700x 30-32. They run 31 mm wide, have nice round profile on Velocity Aerohead rims. Mike SLO CA On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 2:33:46 AM UTC-7, Paul in Dallas wrote: > Hopefully a month ago for the last post > is not too long to resurrect this thread. > > On

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-08-15 Thread Aaron Thomas
Paul, thank you, this is helpful. I'd be using the Soma Supples on Velocity A23 rims, which have an internal width of 18 mm. Sounds like it should be right around 32 or 33, which is what I'm looking for. I have been using Jack Brown greens (33) and Panaracer GravelKings (32), and just want to

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-08-15 Thread Paul Brodek
Forgive the self-reply, just wanted to add a data chunk. Checked two different Soma SV SL 33s on vintage Mavic MA40 rims, spec 13.5mm internal width, and got a pretty sold 30mm at 80psi. So 30mm wide on 13.5mm rims, 33mm on 19mm rims. Thus my disappointment at the SV SL 28s being 27mm on 13mm

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-08-15 Thread Paul Brodek
Wow, that is mega-weird, though I am kinda remembering hearing/seeing that creeping problem before, on a forum. Can't recall if it was for the same brand/tire, though. Maybe the fact that you didn't have trouble mounting them was a sign? IE, Challenge tires need a tighter fit to prevent

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-08-14 Thread Nick Payne
Re the Challenge Strada Bianca 700 x 30, I didn't have problems mounting them, but I had to retire them because the braking force was making the tyres gradually creep around the rim until the valve got ripped out of the tube. The rims are Mavic MA2 - been using them for years with multiple

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-08-14 Thread Paul Brodek
Hey Aaron, This could turn into another of my tire rants, but it's getting late and I'm getting sleepy. All's I'm gonna say right now is, I can no longer simply use the term "accurate" in regard to labeled tire widths. Actual tire width is dependent on the tire itself, natch, but also the

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-08-13 Thread Aaron Thomas
Paul, Regarding the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, how accurate are the size designations when inflated? Or perhaps more to the point, if you have used the 33 mm, is it truly in the ballpark of 33? I bought some Challenge tires labeled 33 mm but they inflated to nearly 37 mm! Secondly, in your

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-26 Thread Jim Bronson
Patrick, I think the quantity of goathorn thorns you encounter in somewhat lowland New Mexico (meaning, lower than Santa Fe) is somewhat atypical to many places in the US. However, running fairly new Pari-Motos on a rainy ACP 600K a few years back, I once had FIVE flats on the first day, which

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-26 Thread S. Greco
I really love the Cypres, and I have ridden the compass equivalent. They are super similar, but don't compare IMHO. There's some magic in then cypress. What a time to be alive with all these amazing tire options :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 6/25/20 3:09 PM, Paul Brodek wrote: Hey Steve, do I peer through the cobwebs of my mind to see that you might be one of the fellas I bought a pair of Challenge tires from after your trials and tribulations? No, not me.  I got one pair as a gift (the owner tried mounting them and gave

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-25 Thread Patrick Moore
I agree, FWIW; I can't see the use of tubeless for narrow, high pressure, given that, at least IME, sealants work well in tubes at road pressures, and in tubeless at low pressures. As for mess, even with sealant at low, ~20 psi pressure, even through with Orange Seal (versus Stan's) most

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-25 Thread Patrick Moore
I have to laugh. *One* flat every *300* miles? *Three hundred Miles???* *THREE HUNDRED MILES?* When I first mounted original issue PRs on my then-Ram, I got a flat every *5 (five) (V)* miles, no kidding; I think it was 4 during that first ride; yes, I was relatively inured to punctures,

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-25 Thread Paul Brodek
Not to segue too far afield, but aside from the Moore brothers' dystopian Goathead Hell, I don't get skinny road tubeless as a concept. Skinny tire pressure is so much higher, I can't see the sealant helping with anything but pretty tiny punctures, and even that gets real messy. I rode

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-25 Thread Paul Brodek
Hey Steve, do I peer through the cobwebs of my mind to see that you might be one of the fellas I bought a pair of Challenge tires from after your trials and tribulations? I've probably related this before, but several/many years back when trying to install Parigi-Roubaixs on modern, maybe

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-24 Thread Ryan M.
Mounting a set of road tubeless tires onto carbon rims for my Trek Emonda (back when I rode that kind of bike) made me sell the wheels and the tires...I’m not sure if the new owner could get the tires off the rim, they were that tight. A total PITA. My bet is he cut them off with an exacto

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
Having experienced Challenge open tubulars in the form of Parigi Roubaix I have to decry Paul's understatement of the extent of the problem.    Literally the worst tires to mount I've ever used.   Fabulous ride, but at best when brand new and at full thickness I got 1 flat every 300 miles, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-24 Thread Tom Goodmann
Just so well written, so well told, Paul; sorry for your tire agonies but grateful fhe shared experience. On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:58 PM Paul Brodek wrote: > Gee, thanks guys! Always happy when my pain and suffering provide some > yucks. > > Paul Brodek > Hillsdale, NJ USA > > On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-24 Thread Paul Brodek
Thanks, Jock. Amen to the music of good rubber on smooth asphalt! Hopefully, from a performance standpoint, that's a good thing, too. I'd hate to find out my favorite sound in the world was evidence of excess tire/surface friction... Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA On Wednesday, June 24, 2020

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-24 Thread Paul Brodek
Gee, thanks guys! Always happy when my pain and suffering provide some yucks. Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 2:29:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote: > > +1 on praise for Paul's post--it was the best read, the best laugh, I have > enjoyed this week. And thanks to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-24 Thread Tom Goodmann
+1 on praise for Paul's post--it was the best read, the best laugh, I have enjoyed this week. And thanks to all of you for sharing your views and information . . . I never *tire *of reading them. --Tom On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:31 PM Jock Dewey wrote: > Hey, Paul: > > Your posts are always*

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-24 Thread Jock Dewey
Hey, Paul: Your posts are always* the best*, enjoy reading every one of them...and some of our conversations, too. Especially your tire ovations. I say this, because it is *important & necessary* that tires look good and make proper sounds on good pavement. It's the only music I listen to

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-23 Thread Brewster Fong
I just picked up a pair of Schwalbe One V-Guard clincher tires to try on my Trek Madone. Interestingly, for a "racing style" bike, it has plenty of clearance! At only $26 each, these seem like a decent deal: https://www.backcountry.com/schwalbe-one-tire-clincher?s=a Good Luck! On Monday,

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-23 Thread Paul Brodek
You can order from Scott in Mpls, as already mentioned, or buy from him on ebay. He's always got listings for tires there, makes it handy to see what he may have in stock. Ordering direct from Grand Bois has been mostly smooth for me. Recent covid-related shipping issues have cropped up, they

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-22 Thread Nick Payne
Schwalbe have the G-One Speed 700x30. I've been running these tubeless for a couple of years. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-22 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 8:07:49 AM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: > > I've long enjoyed the suppleness of these tires, but they seem not to have > been available in the U.S. now for some years; I think they can still be > obtained outside the U.S.. Any recommendations for near-equivalents? >

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-22 Thread Braxton Colagross
I ordered two directly from Grand Bois in Kyoto in late February. They arrived in less than a week. Two tires for ~$100. Great price and very fast service. Why is shipping from Japan so fast and inexpensive? On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 8:07:49 AM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: > > I've long enjoyed

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

2020-06-21 Thread Tom Goodmann
Thanks, Eric; thanks, Ray. I just found an April 22nd post about Scott Davis, and so can get them via him or his ebay site, as well as the Compass tires. I ride Barlow Pass 38s on the Legolas, and like them very much. On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:07:49 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote: > > I've