[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Craig
Steve: I easily get numb feet when the pedal pressure hits too far forward on the ball of my foot and my foot is restrained by some sort of retainer. This happens with Power Grips, clipless pedals or toe clips and straps. I've toured for almost 2,000 miles with Power Grips on MKS touring pedals, a

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread R Gonet
Although the RBW site says Power Grips do not work with Grip King pedals, they do. I use that setup on three different bikes and they work well. I don't understand why Riv makes this disclaimer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gro

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 15, 11:35 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I should have been more clear on the cause of the numbness. It's not > cold, but circulation(?) and pressure on the bottom of my foot is > causing it. were you using any retention with the MKS touring pedals? and what kind of shoes were you using? w

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Craig
Steve I was clear on what you were describing. The numbness is usually directly a cause of pressure that impinges nerve branches in your foot. The cure for most cyclists is a combination of strategies that reduces that pressure. Some cyclists are more susceptible than others. Wearing shoes with a

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread doug peterson
Steve: My current pedal of choice is the Grip King as it has a large surface area and good shoe traction, even when wet. I used Looks for many years, then SPDs. SPDs caused "hot foot" syndrome from too much pressure on long rides, especially multi-day tours. As I toured more, I needed more vers

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 15, 12:59 pm, "Frederick, Steve" wrote: > Cleat position can contribute to foot numbness, too. Try moving them back a > little. Shoe's not too tight is it? > > Not trying to convince you to stay with them if you don't want to, but if you > otherwise like the clipless pedals, there are

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Mike
Last summer I put in some miles on my Hilsen with Grip Kings. They were very comfortable. The longest ride I did was 60+ miles (each way) on an extended S24O. They worked well and I do love the simplicity of wearing sneakers while out on the bike. Still, to call the pedals Grip Kings is a bit of a

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread R Gonet
Steve: I attached the PG's according to the directions. I don't think I can write a description, but if you still want, I will take a pic and send it to you off-list. As another list member noted, you do have to pop off the reflectors from the pedal, but when I ride at night I have blinkies, ref

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread R Gonet
Ray: You are correct, you do have to remove the reflectors to use Power Grips with the Grip Kings. I didn't need to make any other alterations, though. I'm curious about your use of plastic spacers on the strap end side, since I needed no such modifications. The important point to make is that

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread charlie
I don't use GK pedals because they don't appear wide enough for my wide feet. I had been using Crank Bros. 50/50 pedals and now use a Taiwanese brand magnesium pedal with sealed bearings. These grip a little better than the Crank Bros. and seem to be of higher quality. I have been riding retentionl

[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-17 Thread Forrest
Just adding to the chorus here . . . I used to ride in clipless pedals and had foot numbness issues. Switched to Grip Kings a couple years ago, and no foot numbness since. Haven't noticed any decline in power needed when climbing, for example. My only caveat is that they're very grippy in dry condi

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Steve Wimberg
Thanks for the replies. I should have been more clear on the cause of the numbness. It's not cold, but circulation(?) and pressure on the bottom of my foot is causing it. I do like the idea of using Power Grips on the Grip Kings, but also read that doesn't work. Richard - where to the end

RE: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Frederick, Steve
-Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Patrick in VT Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:57 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Connell
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Frederick, Steve wrote: > Cleat position can contribute to foot numbness, too.  Try moving them back a > little.  Shoe's not too tight is it? > > Not trying to convince you to stay with them if you don't want to, but if you > otherwise like the clipless pedals,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Wimberg
Thanks for everyones input on this. At the end of the day, I will probably try Grip Kings with the Power Grips. My LBS has both, so I can check them out locally, get their opinion, and go from there. Practicing emergency bailouts (and working on bike handling skills in general), trying my

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Steve Wimberg wrote: > > On paper, though, the GK with PG setup seems to offer the ability to > pull up on the pedal stroke, I thought it had been fairly well established that riders generally don't pull up. Even with clipless. -sv -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Wimberg
I seem to recall reading that somewhere, too. I guess when the study was done, I wasn't in the test group, because I often pull up on the pedal when grinding up a hill. Steve On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Steve Wimberg > wrote: >> >> On

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I seem to recall reading that somewhere, too. > http://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/the_shoes_ruse -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, sen

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-16 Thread rswat...@me.com
On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I seem to recall reading that somewhere, too. > > I guess when the study was done, I wasn't in the test group, because I > often pull up on the pedal when grinding up a hill. > They left me out, too! I can often pull my foot out of a clip-n-str

Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet

2009-12-16 Thread erik jensen
I am size 15, wear very flexible sneakers, and use grip kings without issue. Much better than my old setup (sidis and eggbeaters, which did occasionally create numbness above 70-80miles). erik -- berkeley, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G