Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Kim Hetzel
...I would rather wait until April to buy a new Clem in RBW blue, rather than buy a used RBW framset at this point in time. On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 6:12:01 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote: > The Clem Smith Jr.s' will be back in April. That's wonderful news. I > thank-you very much for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Kim Hetzel
The Clem Smith Jr.s' will be back in April. That's wonderful news. I thank-you very much for the information. I appreciate it. In the meantime, I can close my eyes and imagine my lime olive frameset is a RBW blue color. Obviously not when I am cycling on my Clem. I contacted the seller of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Brian Turner
Haha, can’t say I haven’t been guilty of that same ploy!On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:57 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote:That makes sense Joe! On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:$3900 for a Clem?? That's a "partner told me to sell my bike" price. "Yes dear, I put it on

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Ryan Frahm
That makes sense Joe!  On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > $3900 for a Clem?? That's a "partner told me to sell my bike" price. "Yes > dear, I put it on Craigslist. No takers!"  > > On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:21:38 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
$3900 for a Clem?? That's a "partner told me to sell my bike" price. "Yes dear, I put it on Craigslist. No takers!"  On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:21:38 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Yeah, that Clem seems about $1K too steep. > > On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Ryan Frahm
Makes me think someone should buy my Susie for such a sweet deal! Haha. On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:21:38 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Yeah, that Clem seems about $1K too steep. > > On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote: > > Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Brian Turner
Yeah, that Clem seems about $1K too steep.On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote:Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you!That one for

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you! That one for sale is nice, but $3900 seems a bit crazy. I’d sell my Susie for that and it’s a

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Kim Hetzel
I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote: > Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it. > > Kim Hetzel >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote: > Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though > it's a fully built bike. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread JAS
Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though it's a fully built bike. https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html --Joyce On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > Both. I wanted to use a

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
I am hoping that the Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset is not discontinued and rides off into the sunset. I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" in RBW Blue and in turn sell my lime olive frameset. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 5:22:41 PM UTC-8

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Richard Rose
So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M wrote:I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm effective top tube is so

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
They definitely went fast! I had a green in my cart and got distracted, gone. Went for the gold and was lucky. I think it was 4 minutes or so and they were gone! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:45:51 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Paul M
I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top tube on

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! I’m glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread JW
All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it sounds like they'll be discontinued all together. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com wrote: > Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ronald Halili
Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike which was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) but what I really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and still do) was a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I realized the Gus

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-30 Thread Steve
Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet brazed models? Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, but more and more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the Platypus are looking attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my hard tail carbon

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-25 Thread Eric Marth
I've never ridden one of these frames but olde Tall Paul brought one along for our overnighter back in the fall. The Blue Lug galleries are always a great place to draw inspiration, such clean and well-appointed bikes and their Rivendell builds are some of the best around! On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! Joe "I want one" Bernard On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my first good look > at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than I

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-11 Thread Ryan Frahm
Looks great Richard! Can’t wait to hear how you like it when it’s all done! On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:29:46 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > Looking real good there Richard. I am sure that you will be hooting and > hollering down the road and through the woods, when she is all put

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-11 Thread Kim Hetzel
Looking real good there Richard. I am sure that you will be hooting and hollering down the road and through the woods, when she is all put together. Thank-you for sharing. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > You all are right. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Ryan Frahm
I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” for some pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” and it is about an inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand wanting a bit more clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike is high enough to pedal

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Brian Turner
The following is a quote from Will at Rivendell, from some email correspondence early last year regarding the Gus/Susie availability. He didn't mention anything about production costs, but that makes sense to me. "We have one more small run of them coming sometime late this year... and after

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Richard Rose
Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike has a pretty high bb, though not as high as current comparable bikes. I rarely experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff that at my age I probably should not be doing!:)I just looked at available solutions & thought it might

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Garth
"The last of the fillet brazed frames". I take that for what it says, it doesn't say or even infer there will be no more such frames at all. Ride on The Sun never sets In regards to short cranks, I'm 6'-2" and change and I ride 150mm cranks and have for about a decade. I originally

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Brian Turner
I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, but personally I wouldn’t base my crank length on the potential for pedal strikes on rocks and roots. In this case, I would fall into the camp of being conscious of the terrain, refining your technique, and being mindful of your own

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Richard Rose
Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail bike to the Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm cranks and have been reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I really enjoy the trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the Gus has a slightly higher BB

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread Joe Bernard
The original plan was there would be two price points for both models, fillet and TIG. Then the TIGs didn't happen and the fillets got pricier and I think they lost interest in the whole thing. My guess is Grant/Riv got tired of fighting the "those fat tires are hard to use with v-brakes"

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread iamkeith
On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of > Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm > cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread Richard Rose
Joe - pm’ed you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 9:22 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:You found a great bike! I'm the resident short cranks whisperer around here, here's the Sugino XD600 152mm on my custom. I had same on a Susie for a short time but it never saw dirt so I can't vouch for clearance,

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread Richard Rose
I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits other than

[RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! Joe

[RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-08 Thread Luke Hendrickson
Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus. On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-22 Thread Ryan Frahm
I look forward to seeing more pictures of your setup! I had a P & S rack on a bike I sold not long ago. Great rack for sure. A basket would really just be for around town. I’ll probably wait to ride it and then decide. Pretty much only need some wheels and whatever stem is going to work! Going

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-21 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, especially for the photos. No, can't go wrong with RH tires! On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 4:05:31 AM UTC-8 kelv...@me.com wrote: > Patrick, I live in Singapore. Sorry for the long delay, hope the photos make > it through. This was right when I first built it up, I've since swapped

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-20 Thread 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch
I got the Pass and Stow for exactly that, a front basket setup with ability to run panniers if need be for camping/touring. I think the handling is actually rather acceptable as long as it's balanced with a rear load, so in this instance, rear Happisack + front basket for misc about town

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-20 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you for the tip! The pictures I’ve seen made me think that but I figured it worked if people ran it, so very good to know. I really can’t wait to see the rear Pass and Stow come out. On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 10:35:56 AM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote: > I had a Pass and Stow 5 rail

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-20 Thread Jared Wilson
I had a Pass and Stow 5 rail on my Susie and didn't like the way it felt, the load seemed to too far forward. Much happier with a Nitto Marks Rack for that application, but that's just my preference, YMMV. On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Actually, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-20 Thread Ryan Frahm
Actually, I plan to put the same Pass and Stow rack on! On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 6:39:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote: > Great pictures Kelvin! Good to know about preferring a rear load. Though I > kinda suspected that with the chainstays. Maybe just low riders up front? I > was hoping to

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-20 Thread Ryan Frahm
Great pictures Kelvin! Good to know about preferring a rear load. Though I kinda suspected that with the chainstays. Maybe just low riders up front? I was hoping to put a basket up front for around town at least, guess we will see! On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 4:05:31 AM UTC-8

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-16 Thread Ryan Frahm
I have bailed because of color choice before as well. I was going to go for a green Gus last time. Just got to it late and missed it. I wasn’t going to let another chance slip by! Especially if the spring run is the last of these. Maybe a tig version instead. But likely a similar price the way

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-16 Thread Wally Estrella
Thank you! Well, I was in on the original run, but lockdowns were happening around then. My work situation was unknown at the time (as was most things then). So, I bailed on getting one. Not this time though :) I'll (seemingly) always say "I don't like that Riv color selection!" then see

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-16 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hey Wally, glad you were able to get one! The XL still have some left at least. Larges were gone quick! Enjoy the parts hunt. Putting them together is at least half the fun I think! On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 10:06:50 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote: > Thank you! The green would have been

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-16 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you! The green would have been great but I’m not at all upset. I’d have loved to have Riv build it up but I have some parts to use and couldn’t justify it. I also love building them up! I have no need to rush getting wheels I’m sure. But who knows these days! I’d like silver hubs and

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-16 Thread Garth
It should be noted regarding wheels you're not limited to/by what's shown online as Rich has access to other parts/brands as well. Send him a note or call and ask. On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 7:50:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Congrats on your frame! I would have gone with your

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-16 Thread Eric Marth
Congrats on your frame! I would have gone with your first choice LimeOlive as well but wouldn't complain about the dark gold! As far as wheel availability, just call Riv and see what's up. The stock online isn't always 100% accurate as to what's available, especially when you buy a complete

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-16 Thread Wally Estrella
Congrats! I popped for a XL Gus in 'friction shift'n sardine'. I went through my LBS for the frame purchase. Put the burden on them to get it as I figured I could have possibly become distracted during work and missed out. The sales seemed to go fast! Now, I'm off to find the rest of my

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Ryan Frahm
Completely unnecessary. But so nice! On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 4:55:53 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > I have Rich-built WI/Atlas on my custom. Why? Because it's a really nice > Rivendell and Rich is the best in the business and those polished hubs are > so pretty! You gotta like the

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Erik
Rich builds beautiful wheels. I have the White Industries / Velocity Cliffhangers on my Susie. Certainly not necessary, but they are well worth it. And I think you'll love the dark gold color. > > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> I feel

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Ryan
Don't talk yourself out of those Rich-built wheels with the WI hubs...they are gorgeous. Expensive, yes. But worth it. OTOH if Riv says the Velocity-built rims are good , they probably are and they are about half the price and since you seem to have a young daughter...probably the financially

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Ryan Frahm
I feel better already knowing that if I’d have hesitated yet again, I’d have missed them. Again. Trying to talk myself out of the Rich built wheels with White Industries hubs. They have them. Seems like a better jump situation these days… On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-8

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Laura
Oh boy! Have fun… On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:14:42 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my > daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the > waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help! >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Ryan Frahm
Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help! On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote: > And thank you Laura for

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Ryan Frahm
And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive really looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but wasn’t sure with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will likely end up being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I have and

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no wrong choice myself. On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote: > If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! It > tips the scale on handsome when paired with black

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-15 Thread Laura
If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! It tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you want to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are varied… blue, purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. The DarkGold is

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-14 Thread Ryan Frahm
Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my new only bike! On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I would > be all over this. Enjoy! > > On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I would be all over this. Enjoy! On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m > definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-14 Thread Ryan Frahm
Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both colors look like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, or let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source the few

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-09 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding on 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to use the i25 cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a fan of wide rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next Clem run. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-08 Thread Patrick Moore
What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; don't know your name.) And please post the statutorily required photos! Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, in the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque. On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-08 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you for the comments! I’m sure the Gus is invincible. Also good to know it isn’t too low with a 2.2 tire. I really wish the dark green Gus was still available. My wife is very against all of the color options coming except the Riv orange for the Gus, so that’s what I’d have to go with.

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-08 Thread 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch
It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens to be the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across the world and Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I own a disc brake bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, handle any trail I

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-07 Thread Benjamin Park
I have a Jones LWB complete (size M) and a Susie (size L). Or had a Susie until it died an untimely death after falling off a bike rack on the highway. I found the Susie to be barely the right size (me: PBH 87, 6 foot, 150 lbs) so take all of this with that in mind. I got the Susie because the

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-05 Thread a spen
Having owned all of the bikes you've mentioned here (Gus, Susie, Jones LWB complete) I will share that there is no comparison between the Jones complete vs. the Rivs, IMHO. The Jones complete felt like a sled out of the box and like you, it was not long in my stable (unlike the Jones LWB

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-05 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you Bill! Peppy isn’t how I’d describe what I’m on either. The big tires do what they do well in the rocks and mud though! Glad to hear from someone who has one, they seem so rare still! On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 4:40:43 AM UTC-8 Bill Fulford wrote: > I’ve been riding my Gus for a

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-05 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you for this! I’ve never called but they have been very helpful on a couple email questions I’ve sent. Glad to hear that they really are as great as they seem. Definitely another reason I’d like to have one of their bikes! On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 4:22:49 AM UTC-8 Roberta wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-05 Thread Ryan Frahm
It was partly weight and mostly a poor quality control issue that left a bad taste for the jones. The weight mattered when it was more than my rack could handle. I have a better rack now. Just enjoying the ride is why I’d buy one of these. On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 5:09:25 AM UTC-8 Garth

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-05 Thread Garth
If you found your *enjoyable Jones too heavy to be enjoyabl*e you'll likely find the same with a Gus/Susie. Or just give up the ghost of weighing and comparing bikes and just ride and enjoy them for what they are.. a means for The Ride ! On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:40:43 AM

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-05 Thread Bill Fulford
I’ve been riding my Gus for a year now. It’s taken some time to warm up to it, but having ridden through the fall and now into winter I am loving it. It definitely feels heavy, but when I want a ride without windchill, a bike that can plow through water, mud, over roots, basically thru

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

2021-12-05 Thread Roberta
If you speak with anyone at Riv, I believe he will tell you what he really believes is best, not a “sales” job. I’ve called about a red Roscoe Bubbe to have a Joe Appaloosa (purchased from a dealer instead of direct; they would have made more money with a full Rosco build) suggested instead.

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2020-10-02 Thread John Johnson
I totally agree with Leah; dudes should ride bikes with girl names too! At the same time...Clem is short for Clémence, Clementine, or Clément. I do have several friends named Clementine that go by "Clem" (I live in France, Clementine is a common name here). la bise, john On Thursday, November

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
Almost always a Riv frame purchase comes with a headset, so make sure they know you have one already. If a headset is included, they may offer to give it to you separately uninstalled for future use, or maybe they'd do a gentleman's buy-back for you, and allow you to grab something else you

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-21 Thread lconley
I am triple digits beyond the weight limit, so I went with the Gus. The big question for me was the frame size. I am 6' and 83 PBH so I could have gone M or L. I would usually have gone L because of my long torso, but I wanted to keep as much clearance to the TT as possible so I went M, I also

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-20 Thread iamkeith
Here's another perspective on the weight vs. frame stiffness vs. stem type: I think I would probably prefer the stouter tubing and not-inconsequentially-bigger frame size of the large sized Gus over the equivalent Susie, but I got the later instead. Ironically, I chose this precisely

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-19 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
That’s a sharp looking Peugeot, Mark! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-19 Thread Garth
Close enough Mark, there aren't enough words to describe *that which is everything*, including the word itself :) My favorite ride, is this One it's Life Itself ! On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 7:05:56 AM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote: > > I understand the lighter tubing equals

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Schneider
So I see some people don't understand that a lighter tubing =a more responsive ride and more give when you hit large bumps.If they make a lighter tubed version there's a reason. If you plan on carrying more weight (or you weigh more)you get the heavier tubing, if you weigh less get the light

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Schneider
Hi All, Yes I did order a Susie today. I talked to Vince who was, as always very helpful. I talked size mostly, my longish PBH for my height and my large feets but relatively light weight put me on a large Susie. I'm pretty excited obviously.this will make us a 4 Riv household and my first

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler
I found the draft brochure on Grant's blahg and magnified it enough to read that he did not want to publicize the numbers because people make ill informed decisions based on them. I can understand that but if/when I pay $1600 for a frame I have never seen in person, I need something to base it

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler
Thanks, Patrick. I really like the looks of this frame. On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Weston Hein
The Gus and Susie are showing up for me on the Geometries and Sizing page on Riv's site. Looks like 71.5 degree seat tube angles and 69 degree head tube across the whole size range. I really appreciate them posting this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Chris L
Am I reading that correctly, that a 57cm Gus has a 67.5 cm effective top tube length? I thought the ETT has looked awful short in the photos I've seen but maybe that's an illusion due to most having pullback bars. On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:45:35 AM UTC-6, Christopher Cote wrote:

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler wrote: > > Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the > looks of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Christopher Cote
Rivendell has made it a specific point to not post the geometry. I think there was a diagram with numbers leaked but retracted at one point, but not 100% sure on that. Rivelo just posted this info on their blog, which at least gives the top tube dimensions. It also introduces yet another

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Andy Beichler
Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the looks of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than most bikes these days and wonder if it would make a good all rounder. On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 7:05:14 AM UTC-5, David Wadstrup wrote: > > Good morning, > >

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Joe Bernard
Grady: Those are good points that I would need to consider, too, if I was in the market. I liked Susie/Wolbis better on my short jaunts in a direct comparison with Gus, but I already have two trail-capable street Rivs. To go for the full traily vibe a Gus would make more sense for me. -- You

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Grady Wright
I had the opportunity to take a Gus Boots on an extended test ride in the Mount Diablo State Park. My test ride included all terrain types from tarmac to a steep singletrack decent down a rocky spine. My opinion is Gus is the most hili (mountain bikey) of the Rivendell lineup. It’s really a

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Jason Fuller
The Sam Hillborne got it right with only the unisex "Hillborne" logo - could/should maybe drop the first name altogether -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread brendonoid
I was going to buy the susie purely because I have a quill stem bullmoose I want to use on it. Wont be carrying loads and only weigh 75kg. I agree with others that I love all the names but i wish there was only one name per bike. Would totally buy the susie longbolts over the wolbis slugstone

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread esoterica etc
Deacon Patrick! Long time no hear— it’s great to see you back commenting on the forums again. Here’s hoping we’ll see lots more of your thoughtful and insightful posts in the future. The web’s not the same without you friend. All the best, ~Mark Raleigh, NC > On Nov 16, 2019, at 14:21,

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm 200 lbs and ride my fixed gear Quickbeam on most everything as my gofast MTB, much as you describe using your future hillybike. I love it. So long as you ride "light" (unweight the saddle for the technical bits), you'll do fine. I expect the Susie is beefier than the QB. Grin. However, I

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Jason Fuller
Knowing little more about the two bikes other than what you've described, I'd certainly go for the Susie if it were me! It sounds like the more lively bike, unloaded, and if you're riding at a fairly relaxed pace, I think all the more reason to inject some liveliness. Plus, the additional flex

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
The OP asked a number of questions. Here are my answers to those questions: 1. So, given my weight and purpose, which would you suggest? Given your weight and purpose I would suggest the Susie 2. It’s been my understanding that a quill stem set-up weights a bit more than threadless. Is this

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Sounds like your description mirrors the Susie ad copy rather closely... I think it's very cool Riv is introducing an updated design specifically for trail riding! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Garth
The larger diameter tubing in the Gus is functional for the purposes of stabilizing larger loads/riders. The idea of "saving weight" and it's desirability seems to ingrained in the cycling world that few question it. Do question it to your own satisfaction ! Does less weight alone really

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Austin B.
I've no specific knowledge of either frame as I don't do that kind of riding. A better question might be where does a gap exist in your stable of bikes? (if you have 7 Riv's you may not have much/any gap). You cite the Hunq for the heavy loaded stuff and that you'll go load-free with no

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie

2019-05-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Interestingly, at about 5'10" my 73.5cm or so saddle height is representrf in all four sizes. Obviously the small and xl being outliers. More to come on this. On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 10:49:15 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: > Sub 165 on an XL? That's some long and skinny (I'm long

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