I look forward to seeing more pictures of your setup! I had a P & S rack on
a bike I sold not long ago. Great rack for sure. A basket would really just
be for around town. I’ll probably wait to ride it and then decide. Pretty
much only need some wheels and whatever stem is going to work! Going t
Thanks, especially for the photos. No, can't go wrong with RH tires!
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 4:05:31 AM UTC-8 kelv...@me.com wrote:
> Patrick, I live in Singapore. Sorry for the long delay, hope the photos make
> it through. This was right when I first built it up, I've since swapped
I got the Pass and Stow for exactly that, a front basket setup with ability
to run panniers if need be for camping/touring. I think the handling is
actually rather acceptable as long as it's balanced with a rear load, so in
this instance, rear Happisack + front basket for misc about town things,
Thank you for the tip! The pictures I’ve seen made me think that but I
figured it worked if people ran it, so very good to know. I really can’t
wait to see the rear Pass and Stow come out.
On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 10:35:56 AM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
> I had a Pass and Stow 5 rail o
I had a Pass and Stow 5 rail on my Susie and didn't like the way it felt,
the load seemed to too far forward.
Much happier with a Nitto Marks Rack for that application, but that's just
my preference, YMMV.
On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Actually, I p
Actually, I plan to put the same Pass and Stow rack on!
On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 6:39:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
> Great pictures Kelvin! Good to know about preferring a rear load. Though I
> kinda suspected that with the chainstays. Maybe just low riders up front? I
> was hoping to
Great pictures Kelvin! Good to know about preferring a rear load. Though I
kinda suspected that with the chainstays. Maybe just low riders up front? I
was hoping to put a basket up front for around town at least, guess we will
see!
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 4:05:31 AM UTC-8 kelv...@me.c
I have bailed because of color choice before as well. I was going to go for
a green Gus last time. Just got to it late and missed it. I wasn’t going to
let another chance slip by! Especially if the spring run is the last of
these. Maybe a tig version instead. But likely a similar price the way
Thank you! Well, I was in on the original run, but lockdowns were
happening around then. My work situation was unknown at the time (as was
most things then). So, I bailed on getting one. Not this time though :)
I'll (seemingly) always say "I don't like that Riv color selection!" then
see it
Hey Wally, glad you were able to get one! The XL still have some left at
least. Larges were gone quick! Enjoy the parts hunt. Putting them together
is at least half the fun I think!
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 10:06:50 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
> Thank you! The green would have been grea
Thank you! The green would have been great but I’m not at all upset. I’d
have loved to have Riv build it up but I have some parts to use and
couldn’t justify it. I also love building them up!
I have no need to rush getting wheels I’m sure. But who knows these days!
I’d like silver hubs and opt
It should be noted regarding wheels you're not limited to/by what's shown
online as Rich has access to other parts/brands as well. Send him a note or
call and ask.
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 7:50:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
> Congrats on your frame! I would have gone with your
Congrats on your frame! I would have gone with your first choice LimeOlive
as well but wouldn't complain about the dark gold!
As far as wheel availability, just call Riv and see what's up. The stock
online isn't always 100% accurate as to what's available, especially when
you buy a complete an
Congrats! I popped for a XL Gus in 'friction shift'n sardine'. I went
through my LBS for the frame purchase. Put the burden on them to get it as
I figured I could have possibly become distracted during work and missed
out. The sales seemed to go fast!
Now, I'm off to find the rest of my p
Completely unnecessary. But so nice!
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 4:55:53 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
> I have Rich-built WI/Atlas on my custom. Why? Because it's a really nice
> Rivendell and Rich is the best in the business and those polished hubs are
> so pretty! You gotta like the buz
Rich builds beautiful wheels. I have the White Industries / Velocity
Cliffhangers on my Susie. Certainly not necessary, but they are well worth
it. And I think you'll love the dark gold color.
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I feel bett
Don't talk yourself out of those Rich-built wheels with the WI hubs...they
are gorgeous. Expensive, yes. But worth it. OTOH if Riv says the
Velocity-built rims are good , they probably are and they are about half
the price and since you seem to have a young daughter...probably the
financially
I feel better already knowing that if I’d have hesitated yet again, I’d
have missed them. Again. Trying to talk myself out of the Rich built wheels
with White Industries hubs. They have them. Seems like a better jump
situation these days…
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-8 me2g
Oh boy! Have fun…
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:14:42 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my
> daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the
> waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help!
>
Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my
daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the
waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help!
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
> And thank you Laura for compli
And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive really
looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but wasn’t sure
with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will likely end up
being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I have and wi
Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no wrong
choice myself.
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:
> If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! It
> tips the scale on handsome when paired with black &
If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! It
tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you want
to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are varied… blue,
purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list.
The DarkGold is b
Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my new
only bike!
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I would
> be all over this. Enjoy!
>
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:
Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I would be
all over this. Enjoy!
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m
> definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife
Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m
definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both colors look
like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, or
let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source the
few part
Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding on 2.6”
tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to use the i25
cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a fan of wide
rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next Clem run. The
G
What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; don't
know your name.)
And please post the statutorily required photos!
Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, in the
ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.
On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Own
Thank you for the comments! I’m sure the Gus is invincible. Also good to
know it isn’t too low with a 2.2 tire. I really wish the dark green Gus was
still available. My wife is very against all of the color options coming
except the Riv orange for the Gus, so that’s what I’d have to go with. Ha
It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens to be the
first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across the world and
Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I own a disc brake
bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, handle any trail I
I have a Jones LWB complete (size M) and a Susie (size L). Or had a Susie
until it died an untimely death after falling off a bike rack on the
highway. I found the Susie to be barely the right size (me: PBH 87, 6 foot,
150 lbs) so take all of this with that in mind.
I got the Susie because the
Having owned all of the bikes you've mentioned here (Gus, Susie, Jones LWB
complete) I will share that there is no comparison between the Jones
complete vs. the Rivs, IMHO. The Jones complete felt like a sled out of
the box and like you, it was not long in my stable (unlike the Jones LWB
frame
Thank you Bill! Peppy isn’t how I’d describe what I’m on either. The big
tires do what they do well in the rocks and mud though! Glad to hear from
someone who has one, they seem so rare still!
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 4:40:43 AM UTC-8 Bill Fulford wrote:
> I’ve been riding my Gus for a ye
Thank you for this! I’ve never called but they have been very helpful on a
couple email questions I’ve sent. Glad to hear that they really are as
great as they seem. Definitely another reason I’d like to have one of their
bikes!
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 4:22:49 AM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>
It was partly weight and mostly a poor quality control issue that left a
bad taste for the jones. The weight mattered when it was more than my rack
could handle. I have a better rack now. Just enjoying the ride is why I’d
buy one of these.
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 5:09:25 AM UTC-8 Garth
If you found your *enjoyable Jones too heavy to be enjoyabl*e you'll
likely find the same with a Gus/Susie. Or just give up the ghost of
weighing and comparing bikes and just ride and enjoy them for what they
are.. a means for The Ride !
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:40:43 AM UTC-
I’ve been riding my Gus for a year now. It’s taken some time to warm up to
it, but having ridden through the fall and now into winter I am loving it.
It definitely feels heavy, but when I want a ride without windchill, a bike
that can plow through water, mud, over roots, basically thru anything
If you speak with anyone at Riv, I believe he will tell you what he really
believes is best, not a “sales” job.
I’ve called about a red Roscoe Bubbe to have a Joe Appaloosa (purchased
from a dealer instead of direct; they would have made more money with a
full Rosco build) suggested instead.
I totally agree with Leah; dudes should ride bikes with girl names too!
At the same time...Clem is short for Clémence, Clementine, or Clément. I do
have several friends named Clementine that go by "Clem" (I live in France,
Clementine is a common name here).
la bise,
john
On Thursday, November
Almost always a Riv frame purchase comes with a headset, so make sure they
know you have one already. If a headset is included, they may offer to
give it to you separately uninstalled for future use, or maybe they'd do a
gentleman's buy-back for you, and allow you to grab something else you
ne
I am triple digits beyond the weight limit, so I went with the Gus. The big
question for me was the frame size. I am 6' and 83 PBH so I could have gone
M or L. I would usually have gone L because of my long torso, but I wanted
to keep as much clearance to the TT as possible so I went M, I also w
Here's another perspective on the weight vs. frame stiffness vs. stem
type:
I think I would probably prefer the stouter tubing and
not-inconsequentially-bigger frame size of the large sized Gus over the
equivalent Susie, but I got the later instead. Ironically, I chose this
precisely becaus
That’s a sharp looking Peugeot, Mark!
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Close enough Mark, there aren't enough words to describe *that which is
everything*, including the word itself :)
My favorite ride, is this One it's Life Itself !
On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 7:05:56 AM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> I understand the lighter tubing equals "flex
So I see some people don't understand that a lighter tubing =a more
responsive ride and more give when you hit large bumps.If they make a
lighter tubed version there's a reason. If you plan on carrying more weight
(or you weigh more)you get the heavier tubing, if you weigh less get the
light on
Hi All,
Yes I did order a Susie today. I talked to Vince who was, as always very
helpful. I talked size mostly, my longish PBH for my height and my large
feets but relatively light weight put me on a large Susie. I'm pretty
excited obviously.this will make us a 4 Riv household and my first long
I found the draft brochure on Grant's blahg and magnified it enough to read
that he did not want to publicize the numbers because people make ill
informed decisions based on them. I can understand that but if/when I pay
$1600 for a frame I have never seen in person, I need something to base it
Thanks, Patrick. I really like the looks of this frame.
On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler wro
The Gus and Susie are showing up for me on the Geometries and Sizing page
on Riv's site. Looks like 71.5 degree seat tube angles and 69 degree head
tube across the whole size range. I really appreciate them posting this!
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Am I reading that correctly, that a 57cm Gus has a 67.5 cm effective top
tube length? I thought the ETT has looked awful short in the photos I've
seen but maybe that's an illusion due to most having pullback bars.
On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:45:35 AM UTC-6, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler wrote:
>
> Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the
> looks of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than mo
Rivendell has made it a specific point to not post the geometry. I think
there was a diagram with numbers leaked but retracted at one point, but not
100% sure on that. Rivelo just posted this info on their blog, which at
least gives the top tube dimensions. It also introduces yet another version
Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the looks
of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than most bikes these days
and wonder if it would make a good all rounder.
On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 7:05:14 AM UTC-5, David Wadstrup wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
>
>
Grady: Those are good points that I would need to consider, too, if I was in
the market. I liked Susie/Wolbis better on my short jaunts in a direct
comparison with Gus, but I already have two trail-capable street Rivs. To go
for the full traily vibe a Gus would make more sense for me.
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I had the opportunity to take a Gus Boots on an extended test ride in the Mount
Diablo State Park. My test ride included all terrain types from tarmac to a
steep singletrack decent down a rocky spine. My opinion is Gus is the most
hili (mountain bikey) of the Rivendell lineup. It’s really a re
The Sam Hillborne got it right with only the unisex "Hillborne" logo -
could/should maybe drop the first name altogether
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I was going to buy the susie purely because I have a quill stem bullmoose I
want to use on it. Wont be carrying loads and only weigh 75kg.
I agree with others that I love all the names but i wish there was only one
name per bike. Would totally buy the susie longbolts over the wolbis
slugstone b
Deacon Patrick! Long time no hear— it’s great to see you back commenting on the
forums again. Here’s hoping we’ll see lots more of your thoughtful and
insightful posts in the future. The web’s not the same without you friend. All
the best,
~Mark
Raleigh, NC
> On Nov 16, 2019, at 14:21, 'Deac
I'm 200 lbs and ride my fixed gear Quickbeam on most everything as my
gofast MTB, much as you describe using your future hillybike. I love it. So
long as you ride "light" (unweight the saddle for the technical bits),
you'll do fine. I expect the Susie is beefier than the QB. Grin.
However, I wo
Knowing little more about the two bikes other than what you've described,
I'd certainly go for the Susie if it were me! It sounds like the more
lively bike, unloaded, and if you're riding at a fairly relaxed pace, I
think all the more reason to inject some liveliness. Plus, the additional
flex
The OP asked a number of questions. Here are my answers to those questions:
1. So, given my weight and purpose, which would you suggest?
Given your weight and purpose I would suggest the Susie
2. It’s been my understanding that a quill stem set-up weights a bit more
than threadless. Is this c
Sounds like your description mirrors the Susie ad copy rather closely...
I think it's very cool Riv is introducing an updated design specifically
for trail riding!
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The larger diameter tubing in the Gus is functional for the purposes of
stabilizing larger loads/riders. The idea of "saving weight" and it's
desirability seems to ingrained in the cycling world that few question it.
Do question it to your own satisfaction ! Does less weight alone really
mak
I've no specific knowledge of either frame as I don't do that kind of
riding.
A better question might be where does a gap exist in your stable of bikes?
(if you have 7 Riv's you may not have much/any gap). You cite the Hunq for
the heavy loaded stuff and that you'll go load-free with no extrem
Interestingly, at about 5'10" my 73.5cm or so saddle height is representrf in
all four sizes. Obviously the small and xl being outliers. More to come on this.
On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 10:49:15 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
> Sub 165 on an XL? That's some long and skinny (I'm long a
I had always wondered about one-tube-thickness-fits-all aspect. My frame
size (46cm App/50cm Atlantis) being inherently stronger due to shorter
tubes, isn't it over-built (and too rigid) compared to a 60cm frame if the
same tubing is used? Besides, the rider + load (160 + no more than 20lbs
g
Sub 165 on an XL? That's some long and skinny (I'm long and skinny too (6'8"
200lbs)) maybe the XL will not be as thinly tubed? I don't think many who can
ride it are near or under the prescribed weight limit.
-Kai
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Hi Oliver,
Same here and currently ~152 lbs so seriously considering a Susie but I
plan to use the hillbike on the GDMBR loaded.
But with all the camping gear, it would still make sense to use the GBW :-)
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 7:33 AM Oliver Smith
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> I love the idea of the Susie and hope
I love the idea of the Susie and hope I can somehow procure an XL. A slightly
lighter tubing spec might add an iota of suspension and take off an iota of
weight. I’m most intrigued by the frame design (sort of Mtn Mixte) and the
ability to run big tires. It would be my first MTB in ~15yrs. I’m w
I have the small GBW prototype and I used to own a Joe. To answer one
question, no, I don't think the Gus is over built. I'm with Deacon Patrick:
trust the descriptions which Grant is providing when picking one versus the
other. For the Gus, his descriptions have been spot on.
As for big loads
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