[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-26 Thread Johnny Alien
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-26 Thread Bruce
If it showed up in my driveway, I'd consider it a treat. From: Steve Palincsar On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 07:55 -0400, Frederick, Steve wrote: > > > >Looks good with the blue, but it might just be a bit over the top > >Halloweenish for an orange/creamsicle one. >

RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 07:55 -0400, Frederick, Steve wrote: > > > From: James Warren > > > > > > For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you > > go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. > > > From: Steve Palincsar > >Looks good with the blue, but it m

RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-26 Thread Frederick, Steve
> From: James Warren > > > For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you > go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. > From: Steve Palincsar >Looks good with the blue, but it might just be a bit over the top >Halloweenish for an orange/creamsicle one.

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread Bruce
BW Owners Bunch Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 7:32:28 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell One thing I find odd about Rambouillets is the odd ump in size. I am most comfortable on a 53 but should be fine on a 54. But the next size lower is not only 2cm smaller but also has 26&quo

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread Johnny Alien
One thing I find odd about Rambouillets is the odd ump in size. I am most comfortable on a 53 but should be fine on a 54. But the next size lower is not only 2cm smaller but also has 26" wheels which will cause a pretty big drop in standover height. So a 52 would definitely 100% be way to small.

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread EricP
Congrats! That's a very nice bike. Have had the opportunity to look at it many times (am a regular at Hiawatha Cyclery). If my wife would tolerate narrower tires and drop bars, might have purchased it for her. Glad it is going to a good home. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 24, 6:29 pm, Johnny

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread Johnny Alien
Great looking Ram!! I am doing Kojaks for tires so all black there and my saddle is black as well but I think I am going to do Celery tape with amber for the color. It's like a dark kiwi green. On Sep 24, 5:55 pm, James Warren wrote: > Ah, it was yours. I remember seeing that when you first pos

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread James Warren
Ah, it was yours. I remember seeing that when you first posted the photos, and it was a revelation. That bike is killer. -Original Message- From: Bruce Sent: Sep 24, 2010 2:35 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell i:e:http

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 14:35 -0700, Bruce wrote: > i:e: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190/ > > :) > > > > __ > From: James Warren > > > For that color of Ram, the bike ends up l

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread Bruce
i:e: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190/ :) From: James Warren For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. -- You rece

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread James Warren
For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. For some reason, tan looks really good with the Hilsen blue (original darker one), but tan doesn't look so good to me with the Rambouillet blue. -Original Messag

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread Bruce
I heartily commend your new acquisition :) From: Johnny Alien To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 3:39:45 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell So I picked up the rambouillet. I worked with Jim at Hiawatha who was super great. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread James Warren
3101578234/ -Original Message- >From: Johnny Alien >Sent: Sep 24, 2010 1:39 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > >So I picked up the rambouillet. I worked with Jim at Hiawatha who was >super great. I am very anxious to get it and I even hav

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-24 Thread Johnny Alien
So I picked up the rambouillet. I worked with Jim at Hiawatha who was super great. I am very anxious to get it and I even have a long ride coming up in Oct for the American Diabetes Association that I will have this in time for. Jim is going to put some Silver DT shifters on it for me and a set

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Patrick in VT
On Sep 7, 5:28 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > Next year I plan on doing more century and half century rides > and possibly some club rides so what I would like is something that > can go pretty fast but is comfortable for long rides. the "fast" part is up to you - you can't purchase that. any riven

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread hobie
A Homer Hilsen sounds like it could be for you. I don't know your size but 100 mile rides are long and being comfortable is a must for me. I owned a Ram and liked it, but for longer rides I prefer my 58cm Saluki 650b.The Hilsen overlaps in wheel size at about the 57-58cm mark.The Hilsen or Saluki h

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Johnny Alien
> How is the price difference $1800? Is that the difference between the > complete Rambouillet and what you estimate the built up Roadeo will be? A complete Roadeo runs from about $3300 to $4300 depending on the build. The Rambouillet complete is at least $1800 cheaper than the Roadeo complete w

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread James Warren
How is the price difference $1800? Is that the difference between the complete Rambouillet and what you estimate the built up Roadeo will be? -Original Message- >From: Johnny Alien >Sent: Sep 23, 2010 8:32 AM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Johnny Alien
bouillet... > > Steve > > > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:44 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me

RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Frederick, Steve
010 9:44 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > 1) It will be a bit newer. > 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that. > 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your > pref). > 4)

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-22 Thread Johnny Alien
> 1) It will be a bit newer. > 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that. > 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your > pref). > 4) More choices of color > 5) Slightly shorter chainstay (if I remember your intended uses correctly) Some go

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-22 Thread Bruce
. From: Johnny Alien To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 7:02:34 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell Bumping an older thread. Say that I found a really nice condition used Rambo in my size. Say it's a great price and from a very

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-22 Thread James Warren
problem. Enjoy! -Jim W. -Original Message- >From: Johnny Alien >Sent: Sep 22, 2010 5:26 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > >> I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, >> performance, et

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-22 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
The dimensions of the two bikes are nearly identical, and I believe the larger sizes (>56) use the same diameter tubing (8-5-8). There might be a small bit of extra clearance for fenders on the Roadeo, but I believe that's about it. So you're talking ounces at most. Grab the Ram, an establish

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-22 Thread Johnny Alien
> I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, > performance, etc.  But to your question about the Roadeo being > significantly lighter than a Ram, if you were a true weight weenie, > you wouldn't be looking at either. Yeah I am not a weight weenie really just want something on the

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-22 Thread doug peterson
Johnny: There was a thread here about a year ago entitled "is the Ram the perfect Riv?" or something similar. It was long and quite detailed and worth digging up. I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, performance, etc. But to your question about the Roadeo being significan

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-22 Thread Johnny Alien
Bumping an older thread. Say that I found a really nice condition used Rambo in my size. Say it's a great price and from a very nice dealer. Is it worth the extra cash and time to go with the Roadeo. Is it really a ton lighter and will that matter. The Rambouillet would be run with light compon

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-08 Thread sjauch
ck, Steve" > >Sent: Sep 8, 2010 9:36 AM > >To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > > >The Rambly might be 1/2 degree slacker, the Roadeo fits bigger tires and > >uses a slightly lighter tubeset I believe...if

RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-08 Thread James Warren
The Rambouillet also has the best name ever given to a bike. -Original Message- >From: "Frederick, Steve" >Sent: Sep 8, 2010 9:36 AM >To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > >The Rambly might be 1/2 deg

RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-08 Thread Frederick, Steve
s but not enough to be a single deciding factor. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:49 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rive

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-08 Thread James Warren
-Original Message- >From: CycloFiend > >The Roadeo is a stunning accomplishment, when you think about it. > I know. With its 700x33+fenders clearance and versatility to put the bars high or low, I can't imagine a better road bike for unloaded purposes. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread CycloFiend
on 9/7/10 3:10 PM, Johnny Alien at johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: >> Don't rule out the Hilsen for long distance comfort.  Set it up with fasty >> components and you'll have a durable and comfortable way to get around. > > I wouldn't but it seems close to my Bleriot or on the cheaper end a > Hilb

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread James Warren
essage- >From: Johnny Alien >Sent: Sep 7, 2010 7:49 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > >Rambouillets show up from time to time in my size in good shape. They >have similar geometry to Roadeo's? > >On Sep 7, 7:46 pm, William w

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread cyclotourist
Yes: http://www.rivbike.com/images/static/upload/RBW-GeometryCharts.pdf and http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/173/original_roadeogeo_for_site.pdf On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: > Rambouillets show up from time to time in my size in good shape. They > have similar geome

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread Johnny Alien
Rambouillets show up from time to time in my size in good shape. They have similar geometry to Roadeo's? On Sep 7, 7:46 pm, William wrote: > It sounds like I'd +1 the Roadeo or Rambu course, then. > > On Sep 7, 4:40 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > > > > > Are you going to use drop bars on this next

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread William
It sounds like I'd +1 the Roadeo or Rambu course, then. On Sep 7, 4:40 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > Are you going to use drop bars on this next Riv?  Do you have a drop > > bar bike now? > > My Bleriot has drops, my MB-2 has Bullmoose.   Drops are my favorite > bars so at least for now I don't thi

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread Johnny Alien
> Are you going to use drop bars on this next Riv?  Do you have a drop > bar bike now? My Bleriot has drops, my MB-2 has Bullmoose. Drops are my favorite bars so at least for now I don't think I would choose anything else. $2k is not a deal breaker. It sounds like you guys confirm my initial f

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread MichaelH
I have been cycling for almost 40 years and have ridden a lot of bikes and a lot of miles. I have never owned one that was more of a joy, on the long club rides that you describe, than my Rambouillet. If you can find a good used one, go for it; if not, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Rodeo. The Eb

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread Esteban
Roadeo. Grant doesn't design an uncomfortable bike. All the other bikes overlap with each other much more. To be honest, I was never afraid to take my Romulus on any terrain. Riv makes some robust bikes. The Bleriot really can do anything. I'd do a heavy tour on it. So, Roadeo is your ticket.

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread William
Are you going to use drop bars on this next Riv? Do you have a drop bar bike now? On Sep 7, 3:10 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > Don't rule out the Hilsen for long distance comfort.  Set it up with fasty > > components and you'll have a durable and comfortable way to get around. > > I wouldn't but i

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread Johnny Alien
> Don't rule out the Hilsen for long distance comfort.  Set it up with fasty > components and you'll have a durable and comfortable way to get around. I wouldn't but it seems close to my Bleriot or on the cheaper end a Hilborne. I was leaning toward the Roadeo and only was questioning the long ri

[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-07 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I'd say Roadeo. You have the other end and middle of the spectrum covered. Rambouillet and Roadeos have almost exact same geometry, I think the Roadeo has a 1cm longer chainstay, that's it. On Sep 7, 2:28 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > I love my Bleriot and would like another Rivendell so I am in the