[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Nicely done. Glad to see I'm not the only one that obsesses over geometry charts. Now if that frame had a 72 degree STA, I'd be really, really interested. But then, the reach or front-center would be compromised... Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Christopher Cote asked how I did the math and which size is Large in my book. I'm calling the 53cm a Large. I thought I picked that up from Mike's blog posts earlier. Maybe I made it up. 53cm. I came up with the front center number just using math. You don't need fork length because you

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

I just checked the frame sheet for the Bridge Club and it says 100mm spaced, 9mm axle front hub. What frame size are you calling a large? How did you come up with the front center number? I'd think you'd also need the fork length, which I don't see. Chris -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Bill, just a SWAG based on the reach, HTA, and fork offset. Front center or wheelbase aren't posted, so I don't know for sure. Anything less than 620mm for front center will likely give me TO. I'd be looking at a 53cm Road+. I don't think I could be free of TO on any drop-bar designed bike in

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

I don't know how many folks actually care about front center or math, but I answered my own question and did the front center calculation for a Size Large Black Mountain Road Plus (my size). I came up with 635mm. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:37:23 PM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Christopher Cote thinks that Surly has a typo when they claim their bike takes a 10x100 qr front wheel. I think that’s a possibility. Christopher Cote asserts that the Black Mountain Road Plus will have TCO in his size. What size did you do the calculations on? What front center did you come

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

I'd be willing to bet that the fork takes a standard 100mm QR wheel. The rear doesn't bug me. I'd run a 135mm hub and forget about it. The BMC Road Plus looks like it will have toe-overlap in my size. That's a no-go for me for anything that will be ridden off pavement around here. Chris On

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

The Radavist just unveiled a new Crust bike, the Bombora (yeah, the name really caught my eye) . It's a 27.5 x 2.4" tig welded frame with a bi-plane fork. There is no real information other than a few photos but this bike might factor into a Hunqapillar/Bridge Club discussion. It looks

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Those wheel formats are, um, I don't know. A 10x100 QR front wheel. I've never heard of that. A 10x138 QR rear wheel to handle 135 or 142. Is a 142mm QR rear 650B wheel a common thing? That all seems really unconventional. Especially since one common target for touring bikes is that you

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

In 2012 I faced this same question. Hunqapillar or LHT or ???. The cost/benifit analysis is one it sound like you are doing and know well. Is the ride/build quality REALLY worth $X? There is inherant confirmation bias in this group, for we are the RivBunch. So you already know our answer, and

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

This is a fat tyre touring bike I recently built up.

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Low bottom bracket height, extended head tube and quill stem gets the bars to that height in a way more elegant way. And I am 100% for threadless and disc brakes, but the Surly and Hunq are just different. I don't think there's anything similar to the hunqapillar in the entire bike market right

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Look at the bright side . it came with paint ! ... and it was sprayed on and not in can for the buyer to apply !! ahahahahaahahahahaa An ism is an ism is an ism mini-malism . that's a long a . On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 7:53:55 AM UTC-4, Christopher Cote wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

I should have noted that I prefer a long reach to the handlebar and the Hunq would have a cramped cockpit for me. I could make it work but it wouldn't be optimal for my preferences. I like a longer top tube with a shorter stem, rather than a shorter top tube with a longer stem. The former

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Doesn't look any worse than a Technomic at max extension, IMO. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Yep, you can get a long steerer on a Surly to compensate for the lack of Riv geometry, but you have to live with the look of it :) Tom > > -- You

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

Yes, it's not going to ride like a Riv. That's the (not)subtle geometry differences in effect. Does a LHT ride like an Atlantis? I doubt it. Functionally though, they're in the same ballpark. Chris, I'm curious how you can't get the same reach. Couple an uncut steerer with the currently

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

I don't own a Riv but I have been researching and drooling over the Hunqapillar for about 8 years now and I'm also a Surly fanboy. I would say that functionally, the Bridge Club and 650B Hunqapillar are far more alike than they are different. The largest functional difference I see is

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

I don't have any experience with a hunqapilar but I think the bridge club looks cool. Non suspension corrected and normal dropouts and big clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

I agree. I tried for two years to make a CrossCheck and a SOMA Groove like a Riv and then gave up and bought a Hillborne. Wished I started there. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Is the Surly Bridge Club a Disc-braked Hunqapillar?

The differences are like night and day for sure similiar in that they are both "a bike". If you want a ride "like" a Riv in any way , that ain't it. A custom builder can build one "like", but the original is the original. I'm not saying buy it or not, I am saying the Surly is a Surly and