Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-17 Thread A. Nostuh
My aluminum 58cm boscos flex like crazy. They are super light and thin walled tubing. The flex is so much I wonder if they would break but probably just in my head. There is extra comfort from the flex a bit like doing push-ups on a diving board instead of concrete Al in Saratoga -- You rec

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-16 Thread iamkeith
7:54 am 10/15/19 With my first-run aluminum boscos, I was eventually able to tighten them enough to quit slipping, but I still didn't like how much they flexed/twisted. So I ended up with the steel bullmoose version which are perfect in every way. If I ever try the aluminum ones again, I'll us

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-16 Thread Eric Grim
I was test fitting Nitto RM016N "Mustache" handlebars to a Nitto "Dirt Drop" stem, and doing so marred the handlebar's clamp area because the stem was just a little too small for a slip fit. Not much, just a tiny bit, but I thought, "Wait, What?!" Both the bars and stem were prominently marked

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-16 Thread jeff perry
Agreed 100% Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2019, at 12:13 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Everything you've described - most of which include a different stem and/or > bar design - are intended to combat the physics I'm talking about. My claim > stands: I think some people are putting more lever

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Clayton.sf
Yes, I can dig it. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discuss

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Everything you've described - most of which include a different stem and/or bar design - are intended to combat the physics I'm talking about. My claim stands: I think some people are putting more leverage into the Tallux/Bosco combination than it can withstand without extra remedies at the clam

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Clayton.sf
I feel like slippage has little to do with bar weight or stem length. If you want less slip then you need to increase friction between stem and bar. A larger diameter bar/stem interface (31.8mm or 35mm) accomplishes this most elegantly. Friction paste and torque are other means. More exotic solut

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Clayton.sf
@Justin underneath the bar sleeve there are likely two slits/holes. Squirt some wd40 or t9 in there and the creaking should stop. CS HBG CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Joe Bernard
We may just have to admit that putting light wayback bars on light wayforward stems has a practical limit before the laws of physics takes over. Sometimes they creak, sometimes we can push on them hard enough to slip. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Justin, Oakland
My Boscos slipped. Overtorqued but no carbon paste. I took them off and replaced them with Chocos. Which creak. And drive me nuts. But they are my favorite bar of all time. On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 12:37:06 PM UTC-7, jeff perry wrote: > > Is anyone else experiencing slipping Bosco bars?

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I had some cromo Bosco + Nitto old stock cromo riser stem (CT-## {31 or 51, maybe}) slippage. Not much, but a little upon hard out saddle mashing or stopping. I may or may not have experienced the same with the stock Tallux on my Clem... I can’t recall as I swapped stems fairly quickly as I

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-15 Thread Shawn Granton
Hello all- Out of curiosity, does the metal make any difference in slipping? If you had a slipping set, what was it made out of? Boscos come both in heat-treated aluminum and chromoly steel. I put a pair of Boscos on my Raleigh Crested Butte four years ago to replace a pair of Civia Duponts.

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Joe Bernard
I think the OP has reached the end of his confidence with these bars and just would rather not. Which I totally understand; it's a very important contact between you and the very important front wheel, and you need to know that baby isn't going to move! -- You received this message because yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Bob B
I've ridden these bars for many years. When I first installed them they slipped and I found that to fix it I had to tighten the bolt a little bit more than I was comfortable with—once I did, they were set and haven't moved a smidge since. -- You received this message because you are subscrib

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Garth
Without actually measuring anything you have idea what you are working with, either bar or stem. Even if the bar is slightly out of spec, an open face stem is much more accomodating, the bars don't have to be exact like a single bolt. I've used 25.4 swept back bars in 26.0 open face stems w/

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
>From your description, I think you are right not to use them. If it were me, I would attempt to get my money back from whomever I bought them. In my case, the only entity from whom I would ever buy a Bosco bar would be Rivendell Bicycle Works, and I'm certain that they would treat me fairly.

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Clayton.sf
Doubt they are defective. I think it has more to do with how and where a person rides. Some friction paste and judicious overtorquing of stem bolt should mostly solve it. CSHBGCA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubsc

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread jeff perry
Maybe I just got a defective bar. Disappointing. I can’t sell these, so I guess they are an expensive addition to my recycle bin. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Mark Roland wrote: > > I've got two of the non-bull Boscos in service on my 26" tandem. Doesn't see > a ton

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Mark Roland
I've got two of the non-bull Boscos in service on my 26" tandem. Doesn't see a ton of miles, but no issues. On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 10:04:43 AM UTC-4, John A. Bennett wrote: > > I've been riding Bosco bars on my daily commuter (2005 RBW 62cm Saluki) > for years, and I have had zero issues

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Clayton.sf
Go to a bike shop instead. It is usually sold to install carbon seatposts and bars that are sensitive to over torquing. Often they even have some free samples in which case you can buy tire lever, cable, or tube. CSHBGCA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread Marc Irwin
It takes a substantial amount of torque to keep those bars stable. I was one of the first to try them years ago and they called a few weeks later to see if they were alright. I had to use a pipe as an extension on my allen wrench to get them tight enough. They have a freaky long reach back c

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread John A. Bennett
I've been riding Bosco bars on my daily commuter (2005 RBW 62cm Saluki) for years, and I have had zero issues with them. No slip, no dip. They are* by far* my favorite bars OF ALL TIME, and believe me, I've ridden them all. Well, all of the bars sold by Rivendell, that is. https://www.insta

Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread jeff perry
Sorry to hear that. I think it’s just poor design, unfortunately. Too much leverage from the long bars and not enough surface area in the clamp. The bosco moose seems like the safest way to go. I’m sticking with my albatross. I was happy with them anyway, just wanted to try something new.

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-14 Thread dra1980
I just ordered a set of boscos with the re-stock they did at Walnut Creek and am having the same issues. New stem, new bars, correct sizes but same slip as described here. So you aren't alone. Maybe I'll try that friction paste... is that kind of thing available at any hardware store? On Satur

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-13 Thread brendonoid
I had the same problem. Discovered that the bars had slightly deformed at the clamp area and therefore lost the strength of being a tube. I could tighten the stem all day but the bar would simply compress and slip with moderate force. Had to throw the bars away. They weren't safe. To be fair t

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-12 Thread Garth
I prefer 2 and 4 bolt open face stems myself, or at least a steel single bolt one. I've never had any of those slip. On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 3:53:47 PM UTC-4, Clayton.sf wrote: > > One of the main reasons 31.8makes more sense. Slips substantially less. > > Clayton Scott > HBG, CA > -

[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

2019-10-12 Thread Garth
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/bar$20slip|sort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/-0wcciQEqq0/gzdmgfBvDAAJ This is applicable. Seems like sufficient torque(with torque wrench of some sort) and/or blue loctite on the bolt threads. Carbon fiber friction paste also. Do measure both