[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-20 Thread Jonathan D.
Ian. Thank you for the explanation. It sounds like a perfect compliment to the Joe. I’ll just need to raise bike funds to buy one. Or if anyone wants to trade a Sam for a Jones, let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-20 Thread ian m
The chainstays aren't the defining characteristic of Jones geometry! On the LWB with truss fork the HTA is 67.5 and the fork has 76mm offset. Looks like short wheel base HTA is 69 and unicrown fork offers 55mm offset. So you're still getting a long wheelbase that offers stability but more from

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-20 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I believe the complete Jones bikes have chainstays that are 44.5 cm long. Hopefully Jeff will offer the LWB model as a complete. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 10:42:03 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote: > > Thank you for the feedback. I wish the Jones was easier to test ride, but > not many sho

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-19 Thread Jonathan D.
Thank you for the feedback. I wish the Jones was easier to test ride, but not many shops carry it. However, my in-laws do live near Talent so I might have to swing by. The more I ride the Joe, and now that I have Boscos on it, the more I like the fat tire, long chainstay design. Of course t

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-17 Thread Belopsky
Jones was awesome on trails, I had the LWB one. It wasn't as whippy as my now Santa Cruz. I bet a SWB would be fun. I had a Clem. Stable. Boring. Got me to work just fine. Atlantis was decent, stiff and overbuilt for my use and weight. I do miss it. It fit well. -- You received this message b

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-17 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Jonathan, I am a big fan of the Ti bikes I own (Seven, Blacksheep and the Jones). In all of these bikes I feel a smoothness when I ride that isn't always present in others. I certainly like steel and have never owned a carbon fiber, so that is my universe of experience in frame materials. I

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-16 Thread Jonathan D.
Chris. Just curious why you think it is a superlative ride? Any comparisons in terms of ride and feel? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-16 Thread ian m
My Jones is a dedicated off-roader. I'm running 3" knobbies tubeless with 10psi in front, 12psi in back, and the bounce when pedaling on pavement is pretty extreme. On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 1:16:46 PM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote: > > Ian - how would you describe the ride feel between the two on

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-16 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I have a Joe A and the older version of the Jones diamond Ti frame with the truss fork - so not the LWB.. Although I love both of these bikes, the Jones is a superlative ride. I have the "smaller" slick tires (2.5?) Schwable Marathon Supreme and Alfine 8 drivetrain on the Jones. Talking to J

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-16 Thread Jonathan D.
Ian - how would you describe the ride feel between the two on pavement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@google

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-16 Thread ian m
I have a Clem and Jones Plus. When I lived in California and rode trails that were beautifully groomed a bike like Clem was just fine. Then I moved to PA and all my local trails are gnarly, root filled, technical singletrack that are designed with modern mountain bikes in mind. Sure, I could ri

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

2018-07-16 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think RBW's introduction of the Wavie bar brings the Jones/Petersen convergence even closer. I just got a Jones H Bar and really like it and the Wavie looks to have a similar grip angle. I was amazed at the difference the Jones bar made in slow speed maneuvering and I think the very similar