I second this idea. Grant is basically saying in the catalog comparing the Joe
and the Atlantis that they’re essentially the same bike, just different wheel
size (56cm and smaller). I was seriously considering a Joe for a long time, but
then I built up a budget 650b conversion to see if I
Easiest solution is to sell the Joe and buy a MIT Atlantis, which is mostly a
650B Joe.
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So you're considering modifying a potential 700c frame .* just to use a
set of already-owned 650b wheels *?
Frankly, there's just no good way to spin a bad idea !
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 2:23:24 PM UTC-4, Justin Wyne wrote:
*The inspiration for this swap is due to already
I 650b’d my San Marcos. I went against the advice everyone gave and it was
indeed better/awesome. The key is to use short/er cranks because as noted, the
bb is already low. 165mm or shorter is ideal
Al in Saratoga
Oh yeah, a frame builder can lower the canti studs for you
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In that case, the only option I can imagine that doesn't involve "FIRE -
and lots of it!" would be to mount centerpull calipers, assuming that the
brake shoes will fit between the brazed-on canti posts. That way, you can
test whether the smaller wheels deliver whatever payoff you're looking
Ah yes, I see how my posting could be confusing. The sentence should
possibly read "tempts a fella to put the Paul motolite to the test if the
brakes work in the reverse *of* 26" to 650b or 700c and will acomodate 700c
to 650b"
I'm thinking of the possibility of changing a size 58 700c
Ah yes, I see how my posting could be confusing. The sentence should
possibly read "tempts a fella to put the Paul motolite to the test if the
brakes work in the reverse *of* 26" to 650b or 700c and will acomodate 700c
to 650b"
I'm thinking of the possibility of changing a size 58 700c
Hi Jim,Have you ever tried 650Bx42s without fenders on your Road Standard?
What size is your frame? I've got a 65cm Road Standard that I'd like to convert
to 650B...someday...cheers,Andrew
On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:01:45 PM GMT+10, Jim Bronson
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I've been running my early
I've been running my early (road standard or custom) Riv 650B for years,
yes it's low, but it feels normal to me. Originally was 700x28 when I got
it in 2005 (short reach brakes even), now 650B x38 with fenders, love it so
much this way.
Jim
Austin, TX
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:05 PM Joe Bernard
The title says 700 to 650.
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That's not the way I interpreted this passage:
"tempts a fella to put the Paul motolite to the test it (*if?*) the brakes
work in the reverse, 26" *to* 650b or 700c" (not 26" *from* 650b or 700c)
I'm not familiar with Justin's frame size, which he hasn't posted in this
thread, but the smallest
Peter:
Justin is looking to go the other way. From 700c to 650b. A relatively easy mod
for a frame with removable canti posts, but brazed on/tig'd ones require
surgery.
IanA
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I've done this (or at least attempted this) with an old VooDoo frame that I
tried to convert to 700c. I was using Paul's MotoBMX, which has greater
travel range than the Motolites, because the brake arms lack the cutaway
close to the cable clamp (so the arms are a little heavier). My takeaway
I'm wondering what you're looking to achieve. Appas take 55mm tires I think
so I don't think you'll gain anything in tire width or more cush.
Unless it's just that you want to tinker and see if it works for the fun of
doing an experiment. Then I totally get why you're doing it!
Best,
Austin
I should add "in my opinion" to that. Reading it back now, it has an abrasive
tone I didn't intend. Sorry!
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There's also the matter of BB height. Riv already designs them low, which
negates one of the reasons to 650B-ize a 700c bike while creating a major pedal
strike problem. Your 700c Joe doesn't need the fix.
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you can't make the wheel size smaller with the motolite brakes, only
bigger. for example, a vintage MTB with 26" wheels can take 650b or even
700c (small tires) using the motolites. but you can't go the other
direction unless you have a framebuilder move the canti studs down.
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