[RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-17 Thread GeorgeS
Wait! Bicycling is NOT the source of all 2-wheel wisdom? I want my money back. GeorgeS On May 17, 8:09 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Just Ride was on my mind yesterday when I tried to help a woman decide on her first nice bike. She wants a sporty-ish bike for

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2012-05-17 Thread EricP
All $10 or so bucks? (I think that's the going rate. I actually am receiving it as a gift from my mother. There have been a couple of semi-interesting articles recently. At one point, thought they were going to focus more on commuting and touring, but appears not. Momentum mag is better,

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-17 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I read the last issue of Momentum online after the Riv ad was linked. Is it always available online for free? Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To

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2012-05-17 Thread Allan in Portland
Don't leave us hanging... did she opt for a relaxed fit Surlyhttp://clevercycles.com/blog/2012/05/09/pimp-your-surly/to pull her Burley? Also, I had a very similar experience, this week, in fact. In July a group of middle-aged women are coming down from Vancouver to do a ride. Their plan was

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2012-05-17 Thread redsydude
... I am in no way affiliated with the bicycle industry other than as a reformed racer and someone who now rides for fun and utility and who works on Bike Trains and Ride to School programs, but since I'm seen on a bike often, there's a pre-supposition that I know This made me recall an

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2012-05-17 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Geez Allan. I don't recall you mentioning the strip clubs to me last week. I ended up spending all my money at art museums and such. Sigh. I did however ride around Portland a bit, several times. A bike ride is a bike ride. :-) On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Allan in Portland

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2012-05-17 Thread Aaron Thomas
Jim, As someone who straddles the line between Rivendellish sensibilities and club rider hammering, I can relate to the seemingly divergent desires of your customer. And I wonder whether there needs to be such a stark dichotomy drawn between a practical bike and one suitable for

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-17 Thread Peter Morgano
I think that part of the issue is racy weight conscious 25mm tire riders probably aren't looking at rivendell or surly since they have aspirations to be fast in the club. I banish them to madone land, hahaha. Sometimes you can't have it all, why not just 2 bikes that each serve a purpose they

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2012-05-17 Thread Allan in Portland
Well, it's not about the equipment. It's the motivations of the person picking the equipment. Biking has become associated with fitness and competition. Riding for fun and enjoyment comes in a distant second place in a lot of people's minds. This has meant a lot of people out there are

[RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-12 Thread Frank
I'm with Alex: go. It was a nice event in Seattle, a great way to support a local business (in our case Kathleen and Freerange Cycles), and a pleasure to hear Grant speak. His talk was, as you'd expect, low key, open, and appropriately opinionated, but sort of delivered at perfect pitch. Grant

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2012-05-12 Thread Lawnsbyt
I'm so bummed I couldn't make it to see Grant last night, had to be at work and all. How did the ride go? Hope he enjoyed seeing that part of Seattle. On May 12, 6:31 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with Alex: go. It was a nice event in Seattle, a great way to support a local business

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2012-05-12 Thread Brian Hanson
The ride worked out well. Grant had to leave for the airport by 7:30, so we had to cut out the out and back to Golden Gardens, but the ride to the locks, and back along both sides of the canal was really pleasant. We didn't have much foot traffic to contend with when crossing the locks, and even

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2012-05-12 Thread Mojo
I am in the boonies of western Colorado so will not get to see the GGBT (great Grant book tour). But I am enjoying the book. Being a Riv member since 1995 I have heard most (all?) of it before. But still what a great viewpoint of a simple fun semi-exercise. He describes all the negative

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2012-05-12 Thread Rob
I was thinking the exact same thing Alex, after the talk and ride Friday night. Certainly Grant has had a huge influence on my own thinking about bicycles, and that's wafted its way into my thinking about architecture as well. Rob in Seattle On Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:00:25 AM UTC-7, Alex

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2012-05-11 Thread Mike
Received my copy of Just Ride via the brown pony a couple of hours ago. So much good stuff. I liked the ending of chapter 19--Don't be cheap and dead. I also love the illustrations. I have a feeling it'll be a pretty big seller at Powell's here in Portland for a few weeks. Nice that it came out

[RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-11 Thread Alex Moll
Go - it was fun to hear him this evening in Seattle. Glad I went. Alex On May 11, 7:42 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Received my copy of Just Ride via the brown pony a couple of hours ago. So much good stuff. I liked the ending of chapter 19--Don't be cheap and dead. I also love the

[RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-11 Thread Alex Moll
Go - it was fun to hear him this evening in Seattle. Glad I went. Alex On May 11, 7:42 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Received my copy of Just Ride via the brown pony a couple of hours ago. So much good stuff. I liked the ending of chapter 19--Don't be cheap and dead. I also love the

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2012-05-10 Thread Mike
I think you're right Jim, that a lot of things Grant advocated for are much more easily found on bikes today than they were say 10yrs ago. Along those lines, check this out: http://vimeo.com/41872915 --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

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2012-05-10 Thread Pondero
Jim, not quite finished with the book yet, but had the exact same reaction. Regarding your comment about living in a lucky bubble, and relatively few obvious faux-racers, I've noticed that I tend to instinctively congregate with those with shared interests. No arguments against the

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-10 Thread Addison Wilhite
I had a similar reaction that I wrote about here after the 2012 NAHBS: http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/03/reflections-on-north-american-http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/03/reflections-on-north-american-handmade.html

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2012-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Good points by Jim and Addison. Grant certainly was at the start of a sea change over the last 10+ years in the bike industry -- I remember when Rivendell was the only source (at least, the only one relatively easy to find) for Brooks saddles and Carradice saddlebags and one of the few voices

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-10 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 10, 2012, at 9:21 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Good points by Jim and Addison. Grant certainly was at the start of a sea change over the last 10+ years in the bike industry True enough although Grant's impact goes back to the B-stone days and it just took a while for the larger industry

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2012-05-10 Thread Allan in Portland
On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:15:32 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: snip but that Grant gave voice to a backlash movement and opened a long-neglected market Hmm. This isn't to take anything away from Grant, but I think Grant was more a keeper-of-the-flame than prophet or

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2012-05-10 Thread Allan in Portland
... Mammals over dinos if you will, and in contrast to Protestants over Catholics (nb. Martin Luther). -Allan Regards, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

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2012-05-10 Thread Esteban
Jim, you're making me eager to read it. The thought just occurred to me, reading the responses. Jitensha Studio opens in 1982. Grant works at REI, rides competitively... hangs out at Hiroshi's shop. Lots of other people around, I'm sure - influences. Bridgestone happens. Hiroshi's

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2012-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I bought a '92 XO-1 in 1993 and at that point became aware of Bridgestone/Grant/the iconoclasm that became part of Rivendell. I joined the BOB in 1993, got on the early Riv mailing list in 1994 and ordered my first frame at the end of that year. I was pretty aware of what was on the mainstream

[RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-07 Thread dweendaddy
I just received my (first) three copies and have already given them away! I saw a guy from my LBS and told him if they ordered 10 I would buy 5. So readable, so fun. On Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:27:38 PM UTC-5, Zack wrote: Just got my paper copy from amazon. Also, just as an FYI type of

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2012-05-04 Thread Zack
Finished my copy in just a few hours. Lots of stuff that I had already read, but fantastic to be able to give this as a gift to people that are just starting out with riding. Cool to have everything in one place. Also, I was grateful for the riding tips in the book, as I am trying to get

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2012-05-03 Thread Zack
Just got my paper copy from amazon. Also, just as an FYI type of thing, it *really* helps the author if you enjoy something that you read if you leave a positive review on amazon. The more of those that a book gets, the more likely someone from outside the regular sphere will buy it. So, if

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2012-05-02 Thread EricP
Am going to wait on a hard copy until Grant is in Minneapolis at Hiawatha Cyclery on May 31st. Pre-ordered the Kindle version, but that doesn't come out until next Tuesday. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:43:18 PM UTC-5, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: In the spirit of

[RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-02 Thread Mojo
I am enjoying the short mini-chapters. Perfect for quick reads between other activities. I am currently preparing for the Ride the Rockies week in early June, so Grant's words about long rides being unhealthy are striking close to home. After today's 70 mile ride with head winds and significant

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2012-05-02 Thread RJM
I had no idea it was coming out on Kindle. That is great news. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:43:20 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Am going to wait on a hard copy until Grant is in Minneapolis at Hiawatha Cyclery on May 31st. Pre-ordered the Kindle version, but that doesn't come out until next

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2012-05-02 Thread Bill Gibson
ETA for my paper-copy Amazon pre-order is Fryday. Oops, shouldn't announce that on the internets. Might attract Ninja cyclists... On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I had no idea it was coming out on Kindle. That is great news. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:43:20

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