Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-08 Thread Corwin
Hi Ken - Based on my experience with bottom brackets making use of outboard bearings (like the one integrated into the new Sugino crankset), it's a very good idea. It creates an incredibly strong, stiff system. I find my cranks with the outboard bearings to be much more efficient than my crank

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-07 Thread Ken Mattina
This crank uses an exo bottom bracket, correct? Is that a really good idea? Ken On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Garth wrote: > >> I used the Shimano 105 double made in 1999-ish FD-5500 when I used >> 48/44/26 rings and it shifted fine between the small rings. The Dura Ace and >> Ultegra of that

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
And Della Santa is American -- all the more interesting as that must be a custom -- club racer with room for 35s. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, reynoldslugs wrote: > that Della Santa was fairly new at the time the pics taken...simmichrome, > rubbing alcohol, and bike lust ... but not always so

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-06 Thread reynoldslugs
that Della Santa was fairly new at the time the pics taken...simmichrome, rubbing alcohol, and bike lust ... but not always so spic and span: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626493792020/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Max -- congrats! First pair of Keos I've seen on this list beside mine! Nice bike, with very interesting setup. That's also the first Italian racing bike I've seen with 35 Kojaks! And: how do y'all keep your bikes so clean? That drivetrain looks as if it hasn't been ridden. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 a

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Joe Bernard
It looks like my favorite (and very weird) crank of all time, the Campy Record OR for mountain bikes from the early '90s. Joe Bernard On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:56:53 PM UTC-8, reynoldslugs wrote: > I have the earlier version of this crankset, in 26-40. It's a terrific > crank. Pics

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread reynoldslugs
I have the earlier version of this crankset, in 26-40. It's a terrific crank. Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629609638106/ Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on th

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Garth
> I used the Shimano 105 double made in 1999-ish FD-5500 when I used > 48/44/26 rings and it shifted fine between the small rings. The Dura Ace > and Ultegra of that same vintage work as well :) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Ryan Watson
Rob at Ocean Air Cycles told me $340, which I believe included rings. On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:09, Jeremy Till wrote: > I saw that too, and while they say "more affordable" than the normal OX801D > (which is like, $500, right?) they don't mention a specific price point. > Wonder how much it'll

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread rperks
For what it is worth, these are in the same wholesale price league as White industry crank sets with a WI bottom bracket. Likewise the Compass RH offering is just a bit more without a bottom bracket. The corresponding retail prices all appear to be in the hunt as well if you shop around, and

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread William
Among the highlights is that Soma finally is embracing the inherent flexibility of the chainring choices. When they started offering the $500 flavor, they didn't offer it with anything smaller than a 34T small ring, which is what we all can already get with every other 110mm bcd crankset. Now

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Mike Schiller
the finish looks dull in the pictures, guess they saved money on polishing? I wish IRD would do their Defiant crankset in a 94 BCD double. That would be a real big seller. There are plenty of 94 mm chain-rings around. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:34:28 AM UTC-8, Mike wrot

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Garth
It's already up on Soma website $360 . http://store.somafab.com/suoxcrarwcu.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i5hY2iNv-MEJ

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Garth
BTW .. whatever happened to the Riv Crank proposed long ago ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NWGkAl9LP6cJ. To post to this group

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Garth
Note the 145mm Q factor. For those who it matters to, this will be a "big deal". Note it is designed in the spirit of the TA Cyclotouriste Crank with it's low Q and small ratios, except you are no longer limited to that odd and often wobbly tiny BCD ! You can use the common 110mm BCD :) But

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Garth
Note the 145mm Q factor. For those who it matters to, this will be a "big deal". Note it is designed in the spirit of the TA Cyclotouriste Crank with it's low Q and small ratios, except you are no longer limited to that odd and often wobbly tiny BCD ! You can use the common 110mm BCD :) Bu

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Joe Bernard
What is the *deal* with that site? It freezes my computer every time. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:09:25 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: > I saw that too, and while they say "more affordable" than the normal > OX801D (which is like, $500, right?) they don't mention a

[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank

2012-12-05 Thread Jeremy Till
I saw that too, and while they say "more affordable" than the normal OX801D (which is like, $500, right?) they don't mention a specific price point. Wonder how much it'll be. Probably not XD2 cheap, but hopefully not too bad. In any case, another good option for wide range doubles...If it's c